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Sex offenders!!!!! What does it take???????????

heidiho
March 15th, 2007, 07:19 PM
Okay i dont know how it is in Canada but every time i read the news here another kid is dead at the hands of one here and it is always someone w/ a record of sex offenses.These are the human stories that do get to me,and i say NO MERCY ,you do it once that is it you are gone for life,every story here it is someone who has been arrested before.I do not believe at all that you can be rehabilatated(spelled wrong)or actually even care.......Missing Georgia boy found dead
POSTED: 6:39 p.m. EDT, March 15, 2007
Story Highlights• NEW: Body of 6-year-old Christopher Barrios found
• NEW: Police treating case as a homicide
• NEW: Charges likely to be upgraded against four suspects
• Christopher Barrios was last seen March 8 at trailer park where he lived

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BRUNSWICK, Georgia (CNN) -- The body of a 6-year-old boy missing since last week was found Thursday alongside a road near the Glynn County Airport, police said.

A Department of Natural Resources ranger found the body of Christopher Barrios about 4 p.m., Glynn County Police Chief Matt Doering said.

The body was covered but not buried and the case is being treated as a homicide, Doering said.

About 60 volunteer searchers, many wearing T-shirts printed with the boy's photo, hugged and wept as they learned of the boy's death, The Associated Press reported.

"You suspected all along in your heart, it's just not the outcome you want," Mari Charnock told AP. "At least we know, though. At least it's over."

Police on Wednesday named a convicted sex offender, his parents and a family friend as suspects in the boy's disappearance.

George Edenfield, his parents David and Peggy Edenfield, and family friend Donald Dale are being held in connection with the case.

"We believe they were involved in this abduction, and they are the only ones, we believe, involved," Doering said Thursday.

The four gave information indicating that Christopher's body could be found in a field in the area, but searches there Tuesday and Wednesday turned up nothing. (Watch how police arrested the four suspects )

The body was not where the suspects had told police to look, Doering said.

The four initially faced possible charges of lying to investigators, obstruction of justice and concealing the death of another.

Doering said Thursday the charges were likely to be upgraded.

George Edenfield, 31, was taken into custody Friday for a probation violation, according to Glynn County Police Capt. Jim Nazzrie. A resident of the same mobile home park as the boy, Edenfield consented to a police search of his home, but no clues were found there, Nazzrie said.

Christopher was last seen about 6:15 p.m. March 8, Nazzrie said.

At the mobile home, police spoke with Edenfield's mother, who told them to search woods they previously had combed, Nazzrie said. A second search of the woods turned up nothing, he said.

Police then arrested Edenfield's mother, Peggy, on suspicion of interfering with a criminal investigation, Nazzrie said.

"His mother did a lot of talking, like, 'You need to look here' and 'You should look over there,' " Nazzrie told CNN. Police followed the leads but found nothing, he said.

Edenfield was convicted of two counts of child molestation in 1997, according to Georgia's sex offender registry.

heidiho
March 15th, 2007, 07:21 PM
Story Highlights• Juror says "it's not an easy decision ... it is a person's life"
• Jury voted 10-2 to impose the death penalty
• Jessica Lunsford's father wept after Couey was escorted from courtroom
• Couey found guilty of kidnapping, sexually abusing and killing girl
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MIAMI, Florida (CNN) -- Jurors on Wednesday recommended the death penalty for John Evander Couey, who was found guilty last week of kidnapping, sexually assaulting and murdering 9-year-old Jessica Lunsford.

The majority of the jury -- 10 in favor of death, 2 against it -- rendered the decision about 5:30 p.m. ET. In Florida, the vote does not have to be unanimous to recommend the death penalty.

Miami-Dade County Circuit Judge Richard Howard will make the final decision on Couey's sentence, but judges typically follow a jury's recommendation. (Watch the jury announce its sentence )

As the sentence was read, Couey, 48, sat in the courtroom, fiddled with his tie, and interlaced his fingers.

"This is justice for Jessie, but not just Jessie," said Jessica's father, Mark Lunsford, who cried and hugged supporters after Couey was escorted from the courtroom.

"I'm sure there's other victims out there that they didn't get justice," Lunsford continued. "You crossed paths with Couey and he hurt you, today is justice for you regardless of who you are, whether you're a stranger or a relative."

Asked if the recommended sentence brings him closer to healing, he said, "I'm still not too sure about closure."

She clutched a stuffed toy dolphin
Jessica Marie Lunsford was abducted from her Homosassa Springs, Florida, home February 23, 2005. Her body was found nearly a month later, buried within sight of her own home and behind the house where Couey was staying with a relative.

She was found wrapped in garbage bags, holding a stuffed toy dolphin, her hands bound with stereo wire.

Investigators said Couey abducted Lunsford from her bedroom. Jessica died from asphyxiation after being sexually assaulted, according to a medical examiner's report.

Police arrested Couey in Georgia in March 2005 during the search for Jessica.

His confession helped lead investigators to the girl's body, but a judge ruled the confession was inadmissible in court because he had asked for a lawyer the day before he told police he committed the crime.

Evidence at the trial included Jessica's fingerprints in a closet in Couey's trailer and DNA from Jessica's blood and Couey's semen on a mattress in his bedroom.

Although Wednesday's decision may have seemed quick, "we did have to discuss it," juror Thais Prado, 20, said.

"It was something -- of course it's not an easy decision ... it is a person's life. It didn't seem like it was quick, going through it," said juror Marvin Gunn, 38.

Prado said much of the testimony and evidence was emotionally trying.

"Pictures of the victim, once she was recovered, what was used on her body to tie her -- those are pictures that are very alive in my mind, images that are going to be very hard to forget, if I ever do."

"Jessie was taken from her home, that's the hard part," said alternate juror Osvaldo Pradere, 47, who said he has two small children. "Unfortunately in our society, kids aren't even safe in their own homes, in their own bed."

He said he would hold his children closer now after serving in the case. "Honestly, it will change my life forever."

Jurors noted Couey's lack of remorse or reaction, but said they focused mostly on the evidence presented.

Fueled by anger
Mark Lunsford appeared on CNN's "Larry King Live" recently and was asked if he hated Couey.

"Yeah, definitely. Most definitely," Lunsford said. "But that's what fuels me ... that's where I get my energy to do what I do. It's the anger."

Wednesday, Lunsford said he felt "relief, but still angry."

The death penalty, he said, "Will never compare to the misery that [convicted killers] caused their victims, never."

Lunsford has led a push for stricter sex offender laws since his daughter's 2005 death.

Gov. Jeb Bush signed the Jessica Lunsford Act into Florida law. The legislation calls for prison sentences of 25 years to life for sex offenses against children under age 12, better registration of convicted sex offenders and a Global Positioning System notification mechanism to track down probation violators.

Lunsford read a statement outside the courthouse the day the verdict was handed down, asking that his daughter's death serve as a wake-up call to legislators across the country.

"We have gone through hell and come out the other side with a mission: Before the next family loses a child to America's failed system, we're going to hold lawmakers accountable for allowing this open season on our children," he said.

"We are coming to Washington. We are bringing with us a dedicated plan for a federally funded, federally strategized and nationally waged war on child predators. We will force them to listen."

Maya
March 15th, 2007, 10:44 PM
Unspeakably horrible. I honestly have already started to forget what I just read. Here in Canada the court system treats sexual assault victims like criminals and they are often dissuaded from pressing charges to avoid further traumatization by the legal system. I think it is announced in the papers when an offender is released so that everyone knows who it is but that isn't much consolation. There is very little justice and especially for the children because they have the least rights and are still pretty much viewed as property. I'm just being realistic unfortunately but that is the way it is.

heidiho
March 16th, 2007, 02:34 PM
Yeah here they do let you know,when i lived in phoenix i would get letters every now and then when one would be moving into neighborhood.My thought is either death penalty or NEVER let them out of jail,this is not a curable thing.I watched some guy do an interview and he said he hasnt molested anyone in years,but the thought is always there ,he just doesnt act on it.Whatever,they should rot in jail.,

Rick C
March 16th, 2007, 04:12 PM
Since this is likely mostly a psychological issue, I would think the incidence of sexual predators would likely be roughly the same throughout the world, regardless of country or culture . . . . . but some societies are likely more tolerant (sexual tourism in Asia as an example) of predation and even violence than others.

But I wouldn't think America would have a monopoly on this kind of tragedy.

Rick C
www.goldentales.ca

Maya
March 16th, 2007, 04:14 PM
Sometimes I have empathy even for people who do awful things and hope they will learn or change somehow maybe do good in the world to rectify what they've done. Then other days I think we should lock them up and throw away the key.:mad: Our society in general still seems to hold the view that victims of rape and incest are "dirty" "tainted" etc.. which exacerbates the problem as well. I think a lot of people just don't want to look at it and so nothing changes. Kind of like the puppymills or other horrible things that no one wants to think about.:shrug: Its always the inocent victims that suffer in the end though.:sad:

Maya
March 16th, 2007, 04:31 PM
But I wouldn't think America would have a monopoly on this kind of tragedy.No probably not, I imagine it is fairly consistent around the world.

heidiho
March 16th, 2007, 04:56 PM
I just think that there should be zero tolerance for anyone who molests a child under the age of 12.That girl Jessica was only 9 years old,i mean that is just positively heinous.I say lock em up and throw away key,you constantly read how they all have done something like this before,and it seems to take a child getting killed befor they do lock em up forever.

marsupial mama
March 16th, 2007, 06:01 PM
any rapist should at the very least be locked up for life. and life should mean life. throw away the key.

that goes at least double for those who rape and/or murder children.

That's the minimum. But I have no problem whatsoever with the death penalty for these [insert unpublishable epithets here].

I am sick of how the victims are treated and these [more epithets] are handled with kid gloves by "the system". There is a line, and once you cross it, you forfeit your "rights" to freedom and even to life. Sex offenders have no place in society.

Maya
March 16th, 2007, 08:53 PM
I agree there should be ZERO tolerance of sex offense but there also needs to be more education. Soooo many people still have views about sex and sex offense that contribute to the problem which makes it difficult for victims to be taken seriously. You'd be surprised how many people still think sexual assault isn't violence.

"The Double Standard:
girls + sex = slut, guys + sex = status.
The labels slut and player show that there is still a double standard about sex for guys and girls. This double standard reinforces the power imbalance between males and females. It makes it hard for girls to be proud of their sexuality and pressures guys to be sexual to prove themselves as men. These labels pressure us to conform to gender scripts and keep us from being true to ourselves."I think the more we talk about it the better. Maybe some of the laws will change when more people understand that they are part of the problem, we can only hope.:pray:

joeysmama
March 16th, 2007, 11:13 PM
I was reading the news on line and in addition to the Jessica Lunsford story and the little 6 year old whose body was just found I saw a report about someone who was arrested for using a four month old child in an explicit video -- 4 MONTHS !!! A man who stabbed his 11 month old son and threw him out the window of the car and drove away. (Miraculously the knife missed all vital organs and he is expected to recover from his physical injuries.) A grandmother who was pimping out her grandkids. And a 4 year old girl who died from abuse that the police are characterizing as more torture than abuse--at the hands of her father and stepmother, who used and electric shock collar on her, and the stepmother also bit her. She had old bruises from head to toe. The stepmother told police when she was arrested "my house, my rules. You're not at Mommy's anymore." Oh and "mommy" had asked them to take her for a month--last August. But she never came back.


These people make me sick--literally. I no longer click on the stories. Reading the headlines is more than enough information. Death is wayyy too good for these monsters, but then again I don't want to have to pay taxes to feed and house them.:mad:

Maya
March 17th, 2007, 12:20 AM
Yes its fairly common, mostly because people turn a blind eye until its too late. Everyone will say stuff like "we had no idea" or "ya we knew something wasn't quite right".:frustrated: Most stories are only published for shock value, not to educate people about how common child abuse/homicide or torture really is, or to help people spot the warning signs. There are probably just as many children abused by thier parents as there are pets by thier owners.:sick::sad:

Schwinn
March 18th, 2007, 10:04 AM
I do volunteer work with the CCAA (Canadian Centre for Abuse Awareness), and I've heard stories from the cops that have kept me up at night. I've heard details that they don't tell you on the news (and you don't want to know). But what really guts me? The penalty for me walking out the door without a muzzle on my pitbull X is bigger than for someone accused of molestation.

I don't regret becoming involved with the CCAA, but it's certainly made me a LOT more cautious with Grace. On my way to work from the gym, our daycare person passed me in her van (she often takes the kids on day trips) and there was a guy I didn't recognize in the passenger seat. I was flippin!

heidiho
March 19th, 2007, 03:44 PM
Just knowing how i am w/ my cat,i dont think i could handle a child,i know i would be way to protective,never want them out of my sight(like letting them go to sleep overs and go play outside)Have you ever watched Perverted Justice??It is a great show,but really scary to think how many men are lookin for you boys and girls....I believe we need to educate,but once this sick crime has been commited,thats it,you do not ever get out of jail.And i am 100% for death penalty as long as it is proven 100% you did the crime.......