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How does this food sound

MARTYnBENTLEY
February 13th, 2007, 02:51 AM
Hey all i was thinking of switching from Iams to this food called summit..its for my 9 month old beagle jrt

Ingredients:
Chicken Meal, Ground Rice, Hulless Barley, Chicken Fat (preserved with mixed tocopherols [vit. E], citric acid [vit. C], and rosemary extract), Salmon Meal, Barley Flour, Rice Bran, Flax, Natural Chicken Flavour, Kelp Meal, Dicalcium Phosphate, Calcium Carbonate, Potassium Carbonate, Potassium Chloride, Choline Chloride, Inulin, Lysine, Garlic, Dried Whole Egg, Glucosamine Hydrochloride, Chondroitin Sulphate (shark cartlidge), Ascorbic Acid (vitamin C), Vitamin A Acetate, Cholecalciferol (vitamin D3), Vitamin E (dl alpha-tocopherol acetate), Ferrous Sulphate. *Zinc Proteinate, Zinc Oxide, Niacin, Calcium Pantothenate, Copper Sulphate. *Copper Proteinate, Manganous Oxide, Riboflavin, Calcium Iodate, Thiamine, Mononitrate, Pyridoxine Hydrochloride, Folic Acid, Biotin, Sodium Selenite, Cobalt Carbonate, Menadione Sodium, Bisulfate Complex (source of vitamin K, Vitamin B12. with added Glucosamine and Chondroitin

Guaranteed Analysis:
Crude Protein (min) 26%
Crude Fat (min) 16%
Crude Fiber (max) 4%
Moisture (max) 10%
Ash (max) 6.5%
Calcium (min) 1.0%
Phosphorous (min) 0.8%
Omega 6 Fatty Acids 2.75%
Omega 3 Fatty Acids 0.3%

Any input would be cool

gypsy_girl
February 13th, 2007, 11:44 AM
This food is much better than Iams. Human grade ingredients, balanced Omega 3/6. If you are looking for a food in this price range, I like the calories per cup, and the quality of ingredients. The manufacturer makes better foods, but better foods = more $$$$$$.
IMHO

Prin
February 13th, 2007, 11:56 AM
I don't like that the rice isn't named- if it's not white or brown, chances are it's just scraps. And it has a lot of rice, as you can see by them breaking it into parts (ground rice, rice bran) and same for the barley.

Citric acid can lead to bloat in deep chested dogs (some small dogs are deep chested) especially when the food is moistened with water.

Menadione is a synthetic vitamin K (vitamin K3) that has been banned from human consumption. It creates free radicals in the body which can lead to tumors, cancers, etc. With a good antioxidant (like vitamin E) the effects would be lessened.

There are a lot of dog food companies who have removed menadione out there that aren't necessarily that expensive.:shrug: Canidae is an example.

www.canidae.com

gypsy_girl
February 13th, 2007, 12:38 PM
AAFCO definition "ground rice"

is the entire product obtained in grinding the whole rice including hulls"

None of the products made by these guys contain Menadione anymore, same for citric acid. I checked after reading posts here and at dog food project.

Scott_B
February 13th, 2007, 01:01 PM
AAFCO definition "ground rice"

is the entire product obtained in grinding the whole rice including hulls"



Entire product of what though? Brown? White? Combination of both?

meb999
February 13th, 2007, 01:05 PM
it's a definate step up from Iams...

gypsy_girl
February 13th, 2007, 01:13 PM
Probably could be either/or. I could ask them..

rainbow
February 13th, 2007, 06:56 PM
It's not really bad but it's the bottom formula of what Petcurean makes. If price isn't an issue I would pick their Go Natural formula.

http://www.petcurean.com/product_table.html

MARTYnBENTLEY
February 13th, 2007, 08:26 PM
I emailed petcurean and they told me they only use vitamin k, no menadione... and as much as it shouldnt be price is a bit of a factor, the summit food is about 25 percent cheaper than the iams which is a plus for me, now come to think of it maybe ill upgrade to one that costs nearly the same..but 35 pounds for 30 dollars canadian plus being a better for for my baby its really a no brainer for me to at least move up to summit.
Thank you all...any more feedback would still be appreciated:thumbs up

Prin
February 13th, 2007, 09:08 PM
What about Canidae? I've heard it's not too expensive either and it's meatier... :shrug:

But yeah, it's definitely a step up from Iams. :)

rainbow
February 13th, 2007, 10:43 PM
Yeah, Canidae would definitely be a better choice too. :thumbs up

angeldogs
February 14th, 2007, 06:04 AM
what about heathwise.it's made by the same company as innova.my food store said it was a good food and it was a good price.the 5lb bag was $7.99 plus tax.

Prin
February 14th, 2007, 02:01 PM
Healthwise looks ok.
Chicken Meal
Oatmeal/Rolled Oats
Ground Brown Rice
Chicken Fat
Flaxseed Meal
Natural Flavors
Herring Oil
Avocado Oil
Garlic
Dried Kelp
Vitamins/Minerals
http://www.naturapet.com/display.php?d=product-detail&pxsl=%2F%2Fproduct%5B@id%3D%27543%27%5D

rainbow
February 14th, 2007, 07:08 PM
Yeah, I think it looks a bit better than the Summit.

angeldogs
February 15th, 2007, 04:27 AM
we got a sample of summit for a buddy's dog and was told that it had salt in it.

gypsy_girl
February 15th, 2007, 11:55 AM
Not in this formula, this is the Advance, as opposed to the Originals.
Some of the "originals" formulas have salt (as per the label)

angeldogs
February 15th, 2007, 10:42 PM
i liked the price of the summit.but went with innova instead.