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Shedding may cause me to give up my dog ...

aloneinluv
February 7th, 2007, 08:16 AM
:sad:

I love Rocky. He is a 1 year old purebred German Shepherd with light eyes and a heart of gold. I run my own business and have 2 kids and precious little time. My husband loves the dog but is unable to handle the hair everywhere. To be honest, neither can I. I bought the "furminator" to try and help and it has done precious little to the condition of my home. My kids can't be kids, they cannot get down on the floor to play because moments after cleaning, the place is covered in a layer of hair.

WE have hardwood throughout and radiant heating, which means no furnace, no air circulation, no filter to remove ANY hair.

I am at my wits end and my marriage can only take so much arguing. As much as I love my pet, I value my marrriage more, forgive me for saying that. Rocky was bought for me. My husband isn't really a pet person, but bless his soul, he's a wife person and new that it meant a lot to me.

I have 2 acres of land and I want to know if I can switch Rocky to being an outdoor dog? Is it ok for him to be crated inside on days with a major cold warning or is that cruel?

Anyone with any advice, please help or I will be positing in a different forum too soon.

Thanks,

Jeanette :fingerscr

brandynva
February 7th, 2007, 08:23 AM
I'm sorry to hear of your woes. I know my dogs are both shedding right now like crazy because of the weather and I think because it's getting lighter later. I don't think your dog would be a good outdoor dog. Well, I don't think ANY dog is a good outdoor dog. Dogs are meant to be part of your family and if Rocky has been part of your family this long, to relegate him outside would be cruel. He wouldn't understand. I personally crate my dogs when I'm not home, but if I'm home they are out and about. With hardwood floors, would a Swiffer work? Maybe if you could just Swiffer real quick and then do a good vacuum once a week might help the hair problem? I'd hate to see you get rid of such a precious family pet because of shedding. Good luck and you should post pictures of your boy! :D

Jennicat
February 7th, 2007, 08:24 AM
What type of food is your dog eating? Dogs on low quality food can often shed more.

And not to be rude or harsh, but it seems really unfair to get a dog, and then force him to live outside because he leaves hair in the house. It's one of those things that dogs do, like barking, digging, etc.

jessi76
February 7th, 2007, 08:33 AM
pets are for life (I think all of us on this forum will agree). Dumping a pet due to shedding is really inexcusable IMO. alot of ppl on this board are also involved in rescue and shelter work, and sadly, hear these rediculous excuses often. I understand that pet hair can be annoying, but most people find ways to deal with it, due to the love they have for their animals. dogs can be trained to lay in certain spot, to keep the fur in sort of one area (i.e. dog bed). You can also have the dog groomed more often, or you could do the grooming yourself to control the loose fur.

I think making your dog be an outside dog is in fact cruel. I think confining him to a crate because he sheds too much is also cruel.

billyp
February 7th, 2007, 08:36 AM
Put him on a high quality kibble with maybe some fish inside like canidae.
Also you can try giving the dog an egg once or twice a week and the occasional can of sardine it helps with the shedding and makes their coat shinier.
also, what brandynva said...a swiffer works wonder with dog hair.
Maybe you could teach him no to go in the living room or kitchen or any room you don't want lots of hair in.

mesaana
February 7th, 2007, 09:01 AM
I agree that getting rid of a dog because of shedding is unacceptable. A pet is a lifetime commitment. And turning him into an "outside dog" is just as bad. A dog needs to be with his people... I absolutely second taking a look at what you feed him.

And, may I recommend you look into get a Roomba? You can run it every day, it really helps keeping hair under control. When Vega has a shedding phase, the amount of hair is absolutely staggering. But my Roomba helps make my life much better.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roomba

aloneinluv
February 7th, 2007, 09:12 AM
Thank you for some of your responses, they are apreciated, however, I feel the need to explain myself a little more to some others.

I have had dogs my whole life. Airdales mostly. When I heard that German shepherds shed, I thought, ok, a little shedding, I can deal with that. This is an enormous amount. I am definately not a person to ditch a dog or to be cruel...I was not going to crate my dog so he wouldn't shed. I was asking adivce as to what I can do for extreme cold alerts irf he was an outdoor dog.

Outdoor dogs are no less loved than indoor ones, especially on a property with 2 acres of land, a creek, wooded area and natural spring on it with an actively outdoor family. I have 2 kids that live outdoors in the summer and are nearly out as much in the winter, he would not be abandoned in any way shape or form.

He has a bed, he loves his crate, and no, we do not ever shut the door unless there is a person afraid of dogs in my home. I brush my dog regularily, that is not the issue here. If you have a GSD, then perhaps you will understand that everytime you touch the dog he sheds. Something new I have learned.

AS for Swiffering, that is done daily and one swiffer cloth is not enough for the family room, vaccumming is done every 2 days.

I love animals, but I love my husband and I will not put my children through argument after argument over this. My dog is important to me, but my family is my LIFE. I have never given a dog away etc.

If you want me to be honest and open in this forum then I will, if you want to offer advice, please do but If your only motivation for writing is to tell me that I am a horrible person or dog owner, then please refrain from posting.

I am not heartless or I would not be POSTING about this, I would have "gotten rid" of the dog already.:frustrated:

brandynva
February 7th, 2007, 09:19 AM
I'm sorry if my post came across as accusing. I in no way am accusing you of being a horrible dog owner, nor do I think anyone else here is. I'm just curious, what are they arguments about over the dog? I do happen to have a GSD mix and I know what you mean by shedding. I look down my hallway everyday and it is lined on both sides with dog fur and that is with the sweeping everyday. I also have 2 kids that I have to remind not to roll around in the floor in their school clothes because of the fur. I also keep a lint roller on hand and we all get "rolled" before walking out of the house. I guess it's just an accepted thing. I think you should try some of the food ideas listed. If you get the dog to shed a lot less would that motivate your family to want to keep him?

aloneinluv
February 7th, 2007, 09:26 AM
It wasn't your post that upset me, yours was actually the one I was thinking. The arguments are simply that the house is a disaster because of hair and that my husband is embarrassed to have people over. Shedding is really the only thing. He can deal with the other stuff cause he loves me. He just can't handle the mess . He grew up in a home where a white glove test would NEVER fail.

Thanks. I will look into the food.

J

Sundanz
February 7th, 2007, 09:28 AM
Sorry but all dogs ( and cats) shed. It's part of who they are. Did you think your dog wouldn't shed at some point?? If your husband doesn't really like pets than everything your dog does will be annoying to him. Hey, my horses shed too. You cannot just put your dog outside after living inside. That is cruel and he wouldn't understand. He would be better off with a family who loves him, hair and all. I have 2 dogs who live inside, a Golden Retriever ( long hair) and a Boxer puppy who has very short hair and no undercoat. Guess what? My Boxer sheds as much as my Golden. His hair is much shorter but he sheds nonetheless. It's the time of year! Invest in a very good vacuumcleaner and vacuum every day, get a swiffer for the woodfloors but most of all, love your dog, hair and all, and learn to overlook things that cannot be changed, like shedding hair. Buy him very good kibble and add oil to his food every day. I give mine a tablespoon of Lipiderm once a day, but they still shed. Otherwise find a new home for your dog where he will be loved despite all that hair. The love our dogs give us far outweighs any hair on the floor. That is my humble opinion.

Jennicat
February 7th, 2007, 09:28 AM
What are you feeding your dog?

Sundanz, I feel your pain. We've got an Australian Shepherd mutty dog in the house, and her 5 inch long tail hairs end up even on top of the cabinets.

Winston
February 7th, 2007, 09:47 AM
The shedding is tough! But a dog is a lifetime committment and as you have indicated you understand that! Personally if it comes down to it..please try to find a Forever Home where everyone will be happy with the outcome...You can contact me if you wish...I can refer you to a GSD rescue in Ontario.

Cindy

technodoll
February 7th, 2007, 10:07 AM
I don't see what the problem would be to rehome this dog. Obviously he is loved but causing family arguments and distress, no doubt he will end up alone and chained in the backyard at some point of his life because face it, German Shepherds SHED THEIR WHOLE LIFE no matter what food you feed them, how much you brush them. Your boy will make your husband fail the "white glove test" each and every time, sounds like this is an OCD case and you can't change that behavior in a person.

Do yourself and the dog a favor, find him a loving family who doesn't care if he sheds in the house. and stick to fish for pets the next time. :dog:

dogcatharmony
February 7th, 2007, 10:08 AM
Here is something i found very interesting. Do you know that the average human sheds over one hundred hairs a day???

OntarioGreys
February 7th, 2007, 10:22 AM
Putting him outside especially at this time of year, without having had a chance to acclimatize would be cruel , he has not developed the fat, foot pads, and coat necessary to be an outdoor dog, so he would suffer until he can acclimatize

THe other thing is he was raised indoors being part of an important member of a pack (your family pack), a dog forced out of a natural pack would be as a result of a grave misdoing so it serves as punishment, so in your dogs eyes so is no longer a member of a pack he also will feel he is guilty of something wrong with not understanding of what or why, he knows he has become and outsider to the pack no longer has importance, so a huge double hit emotionally for him, so he would go through grief much like you would if someone close to you died, Sure he may able to adjust and accept but what choice does he have in the matter, it would not be fair to him to put him through the h#ll of thinking he did something terribly wrong

If you have to choose at least find a GSD rescue for him, and let him become a full member of someone elses pack it will be tough even for him to adjust to without also also becoming a pack unto him and having to go thru the pain of adjusting to a climate he was not properly prepared for

brandynva
February 7th, 2007, 10:29 AM
It wasn't your post that upset me, yours was actually the one I was thinking. The arguments are simply that the house is a disaster because of hair and that my husband is embarrassed to have people over. Shedding is really the only thing. He can deal with the other stuff cause he loves me. He just can't handle the mess . He grew up in a home where a white glove test would NEVER fail.

Thanks. I will look into the food.

J

I can understand the mess! There are days my house smells like doggies and there is hair everywhere. I guess for some people that's hard to deal with. My husband is not a big animal lover and it took him a long time to adjust to the mess and hair everywhere. Fortunately we have brown carpet and our couches match my dog. lol You don't really SEE the hair until you stand up. :shrug: If the dog is causing that much stress, I agree with TD. Perhaps another home that will provide with the love and care you want him to have would be best. That would certainly be better than putting him outside. Good luck on making the best decision for your family. :thumbs up

Ford
February 7th, 2007, 10:53 AM
We have a new member here is reaching out for help. Please remember that we all come from different backgrounds, lifestyles and circumstances, and may not always agree with each other as to what our individual options are. If you have advice that may be of assistance, then please offer it. If you're only motivation for posting is to accuse and deride a member who is reaching out for help, then please move on. We are here for each other and our pets, and should keep that in mind whenever someone reaches out for help.

Your friendly neighbourhoood mod,

Ford.

Sundanz
February 7th, 2007, 10:56 AM
The arguments are simply that the house is a disaster because of hair and that my husband is embarrassed to have people over.
Shedding is really the only thing. He grew up in a home where a white glove test would NEVER fail.
J

If your husband grew up in a home that is spotless than ANY dog would be a problem. Fish would be a good idea, no hair. BTW....just doghair alone would not create a DISASTER in your home, there must be other aspects that drive your hubby crazy.
My home, for instance is always clean despite 2 shedding dogs and I can have people over anytime. My dogs are not allowed in every room, the Den is off limits to them due to leather furniture, not because of hair. Our 11 year old grandson lives with us which would make us a 'normal' household. Have you taken your dog to the vet to find out why he sheds excessively? Could be a hormone/thyroid problem. But in reality, all dogs shed, regardless. If you really don't want hair in the house other than your own you might invest in a fishtank. ( I have that too), or a Lizard ( my grandson has one). Fish and Lizards don't smell, shed and are easy to take care of)

aloneinluv
February 7th, 2007, 10:58 AM
I would never dream of putting him outside now. I would wait until spring/summer. He would have full use of the yard and my husband and I would make a large insulated dog house for him. Is there a way that you think I can ease the transition so that he can accept living outside and not feel too jilted. I can't bring myself to give him up. Am I just being selfish by trying to keep him? I feel the adjustment to outside, if it can be smooth would be a lot easier to deal with than meeting a new family and leaving us behind.

Please let mek now if you have ANY ideas.

Thanks VERY much.

J

aloneinluv
February 7th, 2007, 11:05 AM
I have lived with Airedales most of my life....if they shed, you'd be hardpressed to find proof in a house where you vaccuum once a week so the "fact" that all dogs shed is something you should research more before coming down on me for my post. There are varying degrees of this.

The hair is the only disaster that my husband refers to. My house is otherwise immaculate. Your fishtank comment is offensive and uncalled for. I am asking for help to manage this and your comments are rude and offensive to say the least. If you have no adivice please refrain from posting to this thread anymore.

erykah1310
February 7th, 2007, 11:13 AM
Has there been any form of compromise with your husband at all??? or is outdoor dog the compromise???
I see no problem with him becoming a primarily outdoor dog ( come summer ) but as long as he is still allowed to be a part of the family at night or something??? I would just hate to see a dog who was such a close knit family member shunned and left to live outside because of nature...
I Have 4 dogs, all of whom can shed heavily at times. I understand your frustration as well as your husbands...
One of my dogs is primarily outside (by his choice) but he comes in at night... there are some summer nights that the dogs stay outside, and they survived.

If you do feel that its best to rehome your dog, be very picky on where he goes... I couldnt imagine rehoming my dogs and can only assume this is tearing your heart out. But ... if the dog is causing maritial problems and stress you both could end up resenting your dog.

aloneinluv
February 7th, 2007, 12:49 PM
The outdoor is the compromise and the more I push to keep him the more I see that it is probably more of the carrot dangling in front of the horse. It is breaking my heart! Rocky is the PERFECT dog. I am posting a pic (if I can figure this think out and unfortunately will probably need to rehome him. I just wish there was something else I could do. I just can't justify sacrificing my marriage for my dog, and I can't really believe it has come to this to begin with. I will never be able to be a dog owner again and that hurts my heart. I know my kids will be devastated but they are young enough (4 and 5) that I hope they'll get over it in time.

Thank you to those of you who offered support. I wish there was a way I could keep him but listening to everyone here I am realizing I am not a good mom for him. I hope someone will be able to give him the forever home I thought I had.

Jeanette

phoenix
February 7th, 2007, 12:58 PM
He is a beautiful dog. I do think you would be selfish to keep him (to answer your question, not to be rude). I have a dog who would LOVE to be an outdoor dog but given the choice he would still rather to be near his people. I think lots of dogs can adapt to living outside for the most part (not in the type of weather we're having right now of course)- but I think that moving a dog used to living indoors outside would be a blow (like being thrown out of the pack). Another home is best IMO, especially if someone in the house resents him (I believe that dogs can feel this just as well as humans can, when they are not wanted). It would be easier psychologically for him to leave your 'pack' and join a new one than to be left out and have no one replace the companionship he is used to.

My husband grew up in a 'white glove' house too, and he can go back there(I'm sure his mom would love it) if he ever tried to make a comment about the hair or getting rid of the dogs:evil: . He never would, (he's much more likely to take care of the problem by vacuuming it up by ever saying anything and he loves the dogs as much as I do). I'm sorry that is not the case for you, it must be hard, but as others have said, I wouldn't get another dog in this situation.

SnowDancer
February 7th, 2007, 12:59 PM
I have an American Eskimo so I know all about shedding. My dog is an indoor dog, despite loving his walks in the cold with me. There is not a chance that he would ever adjust to becoming an outdoor dog. Fortunately, I can live with the hair, as can my husband. I do understand that not everyone is able to deal with dog and cat hair - but to be truthful, when we had 4 short haired mini Dachshunds, we had hair everywhere as well, it wasn't just as obvious to the eye. Personally, I would try to find a new home for your dog as I think that the shedding situation is not going to resolve itself. I had one friend who refused to come to my house in case one dog hair landed on her. She did not drive but wanted me to take her places - but wanted my assurance that she would not pick up hair from our car. Well, the dog has to go in the car! So obviously this did not work out. I would not give your dog to anyone - perhaps ask your vet if he/she knows of a good family looking for a dog such as yours - I would not be surprised if he/she does. But, please, don't put your pup outside.

shannon1233A
February 7th, 2007, 01:06 PM
I also have a German Shepherd so I understand the shedding. I also understand what may be acceptable and normal shedding for one person, may be over the top for another. First, I'd suggest a vet visit with blood panel done to make sure your Shepherd's shedding is in the normal range and there isn't a medical problem eg. thyroid, causing excessive shedding. As for leaving him to live outdoors, I think this is only a temporary solution to a long term problem for you. He may be fine outdoors all the time in the summer, but what will you do next winter? What about the summer/spring/fall days and nights with severe thunderstorms, what if he's scared, or doesn't like a dog house and refuses to use it leaving him out in the elements. Not to mention, with that large a property, there are no doubt, wild animals roaming at night. Skunks, racoons, beavers etc that can carry disease. Don't think they won't approach a dog, mine was attacked by a raccoon who had babies near by. I know you love your GSD, but sometimes, if you love them, you have to do whats best for them, and set your personal feelings aside. We owe them that. In your case, that may be contacting a GSD Rescue here in Ontario (I know and EXCELLANT one is a member here) and giving your boy the chance to have a loving family he can enjoy his life with, despite all he sheds. You can pm me if you'd like the rescues name. Your boy deserves a life without all the stress I'm sure he's feeling in the home, due to no fault of his own. Please think about it, like I said, making him live outside is only a temp solution with all considered.
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y265/shannon1233/kenzie%20sig/kenziesiggysmaller-1.jpg

Winston
February 7th, 2007, 01:37 PM
Aloneinluv!

I dont think you are a bad mom! Sometimes in life we have to make some sad decisions! Even if Rocky could adapt outside which he probably could you have to think whether it will solve the problem or not? Even if he came inside at night you are still going to have to deal with the shedding? Also some may not agree on this but outdoor doggies tend to smell a bit? If hubby is having trouble with the shedding will he not have a problem with the "smell"?? or even things like fleas etc???

I agree with the Moderator here and that we all come to this forum for help! Sometimes people post things we do not really want to hear! but reading between the lines I see you love your dog and that you want to try to make everyone happy!

If you want PM me and I can put you in contact with someone to help you rehome your baby!

P.S My heart is bbreaking for you! I would not want to have to make this type of decision!!

Cindy

breeze
February 7th, 2007, 01:43 PM
I to have a huskey and the shedding is all the time (sometimes more than other) I do warn my friends not to wear dark colors if they come over if they don't like the hair, and i vaccum 2 a day in the bad times( talk about dust bunnies i think they are hair rabbit) lol, she spends time outside but still loves the house. as she is getting older she spends more time in than out. the hair can become overwelming but you do get use to it. if you see no other way out then please find a good home for him someone who does not mind the hair, he deserves it.

~michelle~
February 7th, 2007, 01:52 PM
i have a 2 huskys (one is which a husky shepard cross) shedding can be a pain, but to be shedding that much seems to be abnormal. also this is going to come across as rude but if your marriage is in jepordy over dog hair are you sure there arent other problems that are being displaced on the dog? i know im probably crossing a line here but you are saying that hair is causing marital problems.

i have switched to a high quality dog food and it has helped with the shedding but sometimes at high shedding or blowing times we need to vaccum quickly in am and pm. and brush daily. it doesnt take too long if you stay on top of it.
also your dog is 1 year old can maybe hes having some hormonal or growth changes thats causing more shedding now than before? my one husky is starting to blow his undercoat right now and i understand when you use a brush to get the fur off of you and its back all over you the second you turn around it makes you wanna pull your hair out but i wouldnt want to give my dogs up because of it. think of it youve made it through chewing, house training, crazy teen year, you can find a way to make it through this

OntarioGreys
February 7th, 2007, 02:00 PM
Is there anyway to allow access to just part of the house with the use of babygates to allow him to have access to a couple rooms in the main living quarters, but say keep the entertaining areas off limits, it would be a better compromised than leaving the dog outside

CyberKitten
February 7th, 2007, 02:01 PM
It seems to me there must be something you can do to keep your dog - because any way you look at it, this is a no win situation. (for the dog and less so for you , and I mean that in the best way - you will be able to live without the dog it seems (tho I know you will be heartbroken at first) but the dog will never understand why he was ditched like that.

I have a lab nephew dog - my brother's dog and have 4 cats who have short hair and while they shed, it is something I can live with. I also grew up with dogs and am used to them. My parents who are elderly now find it hard when we all visit with our pets so we clean up after them so my mom - now in her late 70's does not have to worry about the hair.

With the lab - when I lab sit. I think grooming often helps. I have even been able to put the vacuum right on him and get the hair. But he is a god - it is what he does, he sheds!

Is there no way your husband understands this? I guess I am having a hard time with that. Did you talk about this before marriage or getting the dog - if you have kids, did you get the dog post marriage? What about marriage counselling? (Tho I have to say most of the marriage counseling I hear about re animals is custody disputes).

I would use good food, lots of grooming and teach the dog to not go in certain rooms. "Our" lab for example will not enter the living room tho he does not like to be alone so we make sure someone is with him. He hates to be alone and GSD's are similar - I cannot imagine giving up the lab and I only see him when I have to "labsit". Washing and grooming the dog also helps.

Whatever you do, please don't make him into an outdoor dog - he is too accustomed to being with you now for that to work. It would be cruel even if unintended to be so.

I guess I just don't understand your husband. I can see why you think your husband might be more important tho in my family, the pets are equally loved as the humans. I just do not get why he has to be so picky about this. If he does have a problem - and I say this as a physician - like OCD or some other issue - could he work on that for you and the family he loves?

If he cannot - then I guess you have to make your sad choice. I can only tell you that if my husband had ever suggested getting rid of a pet, he would be told in no uncertain terms that counselling would be on the agenda. What happens if he decides he does not like children because they are messy? If he is that much of a picky and demanding person (and believe me, anyone who suggests getting rid of someone you love is asking way too much and is incredibly demanding), will there be other things that crop up later in the marriage later and the dog will be gone for no goof reason.

I think this is an issue you need to talk out with him and maybe even a counsellor. You are your own person and you need not give in to everything your spouse demands. It takes two to make a marriage and it seems like you are the one giving everything up. You are not a child who brought a pet home without permission - you are a grown woman who if she loves her dog will sit down and discuss the matter rationally.

Just my thoughts - and my background. Don't take it as criticism. I am a non judgemental person and I think everyone -even you - should have the right to stand up for your dog!

4thedogs
February 7th, 2007, 02:46 PM
What type of brushes are you using and how often is he groomed. What type of food is he on. Have you tried any shedding supplements. None of this will mean that the shedding will stop but there are many things you can do to keep it under control.

Unfortuately it sounds as if you are past the point of finding a solution to keep him indoors even if there was one.

I also agree that if it is a choice between living outdoors or finding him a new home I would choose the ladder. Even though you think that he will still get a lot of interaction with the family living outside, he just won't.

Prin
February 7th, 2007, 02:49 PM
I agree. This is only winter. Spring shedding is a whole other dimension.

What are you feeding? Better food can really help with shedding.

Stress also causes shedding- so all that arguing is a paradox.

happycats
February 7th, 2007, 02:54 PM
Here's some helpful thread about shedding.
http://www.pets.ca/forum/showthread.php?t=31552&highlight=shedding+problems
http://www.pets.ca/forum/showthread.php?t=11016&highlight=control+shedding

I also feel making him an soutside dog is not a fair option. But what happens if you get rid of him? (he's a beauty by the way) how do you expalin that one to the kids? (sorry kids, but Daddy doesn;t like the shedding and hair all over the place so we have to find Rocky a new home!)
I think the children will be resentful (a clean house was more important to Daddy then our best friend) If they get over it, it teaches them that pets are disposable.
What about you, won't you have some resentment towards your husband for making you choose? Will rehoming Rocky lead to new arguments, about making you and the kids get rid of Rocky?

Sorry if the above seems harsh, but I feel it must be said.

If my husband made me choose, I would be very resentful, not only for myself, but for taking the kids best, loyal, friend away.

Besides my husband knew when he met me, what a BIG animal lover I am so he would never put me in this position.

I have 5 cats (and have fur tumble weeds) I use the "swivel sweeper" (not swiffer, that just pushes the hair about) everyday and a good vacuum once a week.

erykah1310
February 7th, 2007, 04:44 PM
I have nothing new to offer... i am just posting to appologize for any confusion my post may have caused.....
**Note to self... wake up THEN post :o **

Sundanz
February 7th, 2007, 04:50 PM
My first husband (deceased) was a great animal lover, as I am and we had horses,dogs, cats, birds etc etc. When he passed away I worked hard to keep the ship afloat and everyone fed. Four years later I remarried. My new husband is a very interesting and smart person and a wonderful husband. He likes animals but can live happily without them. I can't, and I made that perfectly clear when we were dating. I told him I had horses, dogs, no more cats (they died of old age) and other critters in a cage. He said he would try to get used to them. He was not too keen about having dogs inside the house, but oh well. Now, 8 years later, he has been feeding our horses morning and night ( he said they are his girls), and he bought me a Boxer Puppy who now sleeps on our bed! He insisted, because he said he is sooo cute! Imagine that from a guy who is a retired Air Force Major and was the tough guy during labor relations with the Unions after he left the Air Force. His friends can't believe the transformation. He said he loves me and whatever I love he'll love. Even cleaning out stalls....
I love him more now than before but if he would have demanded that I give up my precious animals because he can't stand hair or messes or whatever I would have lost all feelings for him. I have learned to play golf and we live happily with our hairy and shedding dogs and horses.

4thedogs
February 7th, 2007, 05:14 PM
My husband also grew up without pets and now he goes up to bed with the dogs. Talks to all of them as if they are another of his children. The hair, well when you have dogs you just accept that it comes with them along with drool.

chico2
February 7th, 2007, 05:24 PM
Aloneinluv.I carefully read all the posts,although I cannot understand why this beautiful dog came to live with you in the first place,knowing your husbands feelings,that's now water under the bridge:sad:
I only hope you will not hand him over to a shelter,where he might spend months in a cage.
Please let someone help you find a GSD rescue,where he will be looked after properly,there are people here who might be able to help.
Another point,you obviously love this dog very much,if my husband would ask me to give up my 3 cats,or my love for animals(not that it would ever happen,he loves them too,hair and all)my resentment towards him,would build up and would not lead to a happy marriage.
Has your husband thought of what this will mean to you and the kids,or is it not important,as long as he can live in a spot-less house??

hazelrunpack
February 7th, 2007, 05:28 PM
My husband also grew up without pets and now he goes up to bed with the dogs. Talks to all of them as if they are another of his children. The hair, well when you have dogs you just accept that it comes with them along with drool.

Yeah, the hair and the drool...my best friends. :D We have six English Setters, all shedders, all droolers. We have drool on the ceiling from them shaking their heads. I vacuum every day and still can't escape the hair balls floating down the hall. :o

The hair used to bother me some, but I got used to it. I don't know what I'd do if it bothered hubby... But his reaction to a hair in his food is "Shhhhh....everyone will want some." I'd be devastated if I was faced with the choice of having to rehome the dogs because of the hair. I guess it's just something you grow to accept if you love a hairy breed. :shrug: If you can't get used to it, it ends up being a problem.

I wish you the best in finding a solution to your dilemma. :grouphug:

Mom_Of_Two_Dogs
February 7th, 2007, 05:53 PM
Here's a good resource:

http://www.wonderpuppy.net/canwehelp/shed.htm

Groomers can also help with the shedding. They brush the dog in a certain way that really reduces the loose hair. Something to consider.

Sundanz
February 7th, 2007, 07:32 PM
>>>>I have lived with Airedales most of my life....if they shed, you'd be hardpressed to find proof in a house where you vaccuum once a week <<<<<

Just a thought...why didn't you get an Airedale instead if they don't shed, as you claim? Why did you get an Eskie with all that hair instead?? Why didn't your husband tell you beforehand that he doesn't like pets and especially doghair before you brought this dog home??

free
February 7th, 2007, 07:49 PM
you were very lucky to have airedales that didn't shed. our first one shed alot from year round allergies. we got buddy when my kids were little and they still played on the floor. beau we rescued over a year ago knowing full well he would shed. i still have people over, and my 2 year old great niece sits on the floor and plays. shedding is only minor in comparison to an older dog who has dementia and has accidents in the house. as long as the dog is well and good with kids and adults to me and my husband that is all that matters.

aloneinluv
February 7th, 2007, 08:02 PM
I did not get an airdale for personal reasons that are really none of your business. Airdales are non-shedding dogs if you look at their description so it is not my "claim". Secondly, if you read my post I did not get an Eskie, I have a GSD and as I said in my first post I knew they shed but I was unaware of exactly how much and naively thought it "couldn't be that bad".

My husband and I spoke extensively over getting a puppy, we waited 2 years to select a breed, breeder and line of pup. With a young family, property size and active nature of our family, a GSD fit the bill perfectly. We did a huge amount of research and my husband does love dogs and even loves Rocky, but he and I were not prepared for the hair. I assured him I would keep on top of it, that he'd barely notice. I was unprepaired for this amount of hair.

Your tone, and content in this last post is not appreciated and I have asked you before not to post here anymore if you are not providing me with any solutions or support for my situation. Your post where you shared your own experience was appreciated. This one is not.

Prin
February 7th, 2007, 08:04 PM
If you took so much time, you didn't think to talk to the breeder and ask "Do they shed a lot?" :confused:

meb999
February 7th, 2007, 08:04 PM
if you ever decide to re-home your dog, please go through a reputable rescue.

I'm sorry you're having such a rough time with the shedding and the arguments it's causing. You shouldn't get another dog (my friend had an airdale that shed like CRAZY!!) -- I think one mistake is forgivable, but what if you get aother dog and he sheds too? Or messes up the house in another of the million ways dogs mess up a house...

Seeing the circumstances, this guy would be better off re-homed into an accepting home that have done their research on the breed. Good luck, and whatever you do don't give him up for 'free to good home' -- those dogs wind up in puppymills or research labs...

aloneinluv
February 7th, 2007, 08:08 PM
I am sorry for your airdale problem, but I never experienced anything like that. Perhaps it is because Rocky is so big (over 100lbs) that his hair is just everwhere, maybe I am a poor housekeeper, but unfortunate as it is, there are some things that are some peoples breaking point. I fear this is ours. I hope that I can find a way to manage the hair and keep it up. Something has to be done.

Prin
February 7th, 2007, 08:14 PM
Something has to be done.Have you taken in the suggestions of changing the food (we can help you choose)?

breeze
February 7th, 2007, 08:15 PM
when i brush my huskey i brush her every second day in one room to limit the hair all over the place and when the weather is warmer i do it outside, the hair still get in the house just not as much. you can try that to see if you can get it under controll.

aloneinluv
February 7th, 2007, 08:20 PM
Ok.

A lot of questions requiring a lot of answers.

1. I had no idea what "shed a lot" means. I had never experienced this before.

2. I had been brushing Rocky 1/2 an hour every morning with an undercoat rake, that was not really helping so I bought a furminator, a deshedding tool, and that has helped a bit but not much. That is to be done every 10 days, I do it every 6.

3. The food is an issue. I am using Kirkland brand right now. I did a side by side comparison with Iams and the ingredient order was identical. I will switch to a name brand food this month and see if that helps.

4. My husband is not a dog person does not mean he doesn't like dogs, he just doesn't want to live with them like some people do. Like many of your other husbands that you all have spoken about, my husband gave in to a request that was important to me and he does vacuum and he does swiffer he tries to help but somethings are important to him too. like a clean hair free home that I thought niavely I could provide even with a dog.

5. Rocky is MY dog. I am not going to replace him with any other dog now or in the future. I came to this board asking for advice, some of you have given it, some of you have not. I am taking the advice I got and am moving forward with it. For the rest of you who are so caught up in your opinion of right and wriong. I may be wrong but I am trying and I don't need to hear how horrible I am for adding a dog to my family.

I hope this answers your questions.

J

Prin
February 7th, 2007, 08:23 PM
Iams is pretty crappy too. A food like Solid Gold Wolf King or Solid Gold Barking at the Moon, IMO, would help. Other foods could help too, but these two seem to do a ton for the coat, in my experience so far...
http://www.solidgoldhealth.com/

~michelle~
February 7th, 2007, 08:25 PM
it is infortunate that shedding and hair are your breaking point esp since you say your dog is perfect in every other way. its hard to believe you and your husband are having so many issues over hair.
i would say if you rehome him to not get another dog. you guys may think a dog is a dog, but this will have an impact on your children. to them the dog is their friend, not just a dog this is going to teach them that their friend is disposable, please dont teach them that friends and family are replaceable too. and that if something or someone doesnt work out you can just get a new one
you have had several good tips here to help reduce the amout of hair but you already made your decision.
please rehome responsibly. this dog is going to go through enough please make sure he goes to a quality home that understands all aspects of the breed.
in many GSD websites it states not only do GSDs shed they shed ALOT.... and they are very specific about this trait.

~michelle~
February 7th, 2007, 08:29 PM
logan (husky/ GSD)is on Innova EVO RM and he shed sooo much less then when we got him
Innova regular was great for his coat too.
fish oil capsules may help as well.
iams is full of fillers not going to do much for his coat.
i would also suggest a vet visit this much work and you are still having that much hair i would have it looked in to

meb999
February 7th, 2007, 08:30 PM
Ok.

3. The food is an issue. I am using Kirkland brand right now. I did a side by side comparison with Iams and the ingredient order was identical. I will switch to a name brand food this month and see if that helps.

J

There is some GREAT advice on this board on food -- please check out our food forum. http://www.pets.ca/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=53

A general rule of thumb is : if you can buy it at the grocery store, then DON'T!!

You can get some MUCH better quality food, granted the price is a little higher, but you feed less of it and it causes less health problems (one of which is less shedding), so it actually comes out cheaper in the end.

Cathy1
February 7th, 2007, 08:31 PM
I have 2 shepherd crosses and they also shed alot especially now but I vacuum the dogs everyday and it helps a whole lot. We still get a bit of hair but not like before.

Prin
February 7th, 2007, 08:31 PM
in many GSD websites it states not only do GSDs shed they shed ALOT.... and they are very specific about this trait.Yeah, that's true, eh?

http://www3.telus.net/waseemah/Of%20interest.htm :
Germans Shepherds are lovingly known as German Shedders

http://www.swgermanshepherdrescue.com/ADOPTING.HTM :
All German Shepherd Dogs shed year round and "blow" their coat twice a year. If you are finicky about dust bunnies or hair on your clothes or furniture, perhaps a non-shedding breed would be more suitable for you.
:shrug:

coppperbelle
February 7th, 2007, 08:41 PM
Outdoor dogs are no less loved than indoor ones, especially on a property with 2 acres of land, a creek, wooded area and natural spring on it with an actively outdoor family. I have 2 kids that live outdoors in the summer and are nearly out as much in the winter, he would not be abandoned in any way shape or form.:

I have 4 acres of land, a river, lots of woods and things to explore also but I can tell you that my dogs do not want to be out there unless we are with them. Dogs are social creatures and leaving them outdoors alone is unfair even if you don't live in the colder climates.
It sounds as if the issue here is not so much the shedding but your husband not wanting the dog.
Some breeds shed more than others and they do shed more at different times of the year. I often have 3 goldens in my house, talk about tumbleweeds. At first it bothered me but now I am older and have realized what is important in life. It is different for everyone but for me an immacutely clean house isn't. I work full time, do volunteer work, rescue work etc... but am not a slave to the vacuum.
You received some suggestions about changing dog foods, adding things to his diet etc... This is the first thing I would try. If your children are small and play on the floor then restrict his access to the room where the kids play. This can easily be done with a baby gate.
If you can't keep him in the house,then please give him to a rescue group who will find him a new home. He doesn't deserve to live outside by himself.

heidiho
February 7th, 2007, 08:49 PM
I have to agree with re homing if his life is gonna be outside,i still think shedding is the craziest reason i have heard to date for giving up your pet,but to each his own,but please do not make him be an outside dog,and your kids might play out there alot but that is different from them LIVING out there,the dog will be the only one living out there and will be totally confused as to why..So so sad......I mean think about it,it is HAIR,that is why you are gonna get rid of your pet..There are alot of worse things in life then hair.....

Dracko
February 7th, 2007, 08:49 PM
I have a GSD as well. I was always a "cat person" until an ex of mine brought home the dog as a puppy. I had no idea what I was getting myself in to when the bf left after the puppy was 6 months. Yes, the hair is considerable. It dictates what kinds of clothes I wear, the furniture I buy, the flooring I have in my house, the car interior I select, etc. But...guess that is what comes with the responsibility of being a pet owner. Things don't always turn out as we planned. When I moved in with my bf just over a year ago I agreed the dog wouldn't come in the bedroom (he used to sleep with me) to limit the hair on his work clothes and such. I did agree at the time but it broke my heart. I would often "accidentally" fall asleep downstairs so Dracko wouldn't have to sleep alone. Now I'm happy to say I'm in the process of separating and will not have to hear the complaints of the hair anymore.

I think in this situation you definitely need to rehome the dog. It is what would be best for the dog. If you want to give it one more try in regards to lessening the shedding by starting to feed your dog a quality dog food, why not...but...I'll tell u as a GSD owner...THEY SHED...A LOT.

Sundanz
February 7th, 2007, 08:54 PM
You came to this board with a question about your dog and we gave you answers and our opinions. Some of the answers/opinions you didn't like, well, that happens when you ask on an open forum. People usually have very strong opinions on animal forums, this is not the first time this happened. You can't expect people to be ok with the idea of giving up a dog only because he sheds. ALL OF OUR DOGS SHED! Actually you should not have to ask us what we think of giving up your dog or banning him from the house. That's like getting rid of our kids because they're messy and smell sometimes. You had the answer in your heart all along, and didn't need our input. You need to speak to your husband and children about finding a solution, not us. ( Of course the solution is to rehome the dog). Then you should all pray that a loving home will be found for that beautiful shedding dog of yours. My heart goes out to him. That is all I have to say.

4thedogs
February 7th, 2007, 08:59 PM
I would suggest taking your dog to a groomer with the right type of dryer to get rid of dead coat and then use a combo of your furminator, undercoat rake, a soft slicker and a shedding blade, at least 15 min per day. Once brushing is done use the vac on him to remove any left over loose coat. Put him on a better food and a shedding supplement. When the shedding becomes difficult again he will need another trip to the groomer.

This should do it for keeping the shedding under control.

Prin
February 7th, 2007, 09:09 PM
Hehe, should I post this? :evil:
My 96 lb Boo and his big furry friend...:laughing:

coppperbelle
February 7th, 2007, 09:16 PM
As a person who is involved in dog rescue I can tell you that I hear all kinds of excuses from poeple wanting to give up their dogs, most of them lies. At least the original poster was honest however
that is all the credit I can give her. To consider giving up a member of your family or worse yet banishing it to a life alone outdoors because it sheds is unbelievable. Really, how shallow can one be caring more about how your house looks than the animal you brought into it. Sorry, but you will not get any sympathy from me. When I first started fostering years ago my husband wasn't crazy about the idea but he loves me and knows how important this was to me. He has adjusted and is now proud to tell people that WE rescue dogs.
Please just rehome this dog and give it a chance of a life with a family who will love it hair and all.

we3beagles
February 7th, 2007, 09:17 PM
In my experience with rescue I have realized that once the decision is made to give up the dog whether conciously or unconciously people tend to do more harm than good for the dog as time goes on. If in your heart (if you were truthful with yourself) you have decided to rehome him contact a GSD rescue immediately so they can find a suitable foster home or adoptive home. He will not know why his family is acting differently towards him, but he will be able to pick up the subtle vibes of the environment. If you are still unsure there has been a lot of great suggestions so far. If it is in fact excessive for a GSD it may be allergies or glandular problems. Have you taken him to the vet to rule either out?

technodoll
February 7th, 2007, 09:26 PM
i wholeheartedly agree with 4thedogs. :thumbs up

prin, when did Boo gain that 6 lbs? :confused: :goodvibes: :highfive:

Prin
February 7th, 2007, 09:37 PM
Oh crap! No, he's only 90. :o He was 86 for a lonnng time and I combined the two. Sorry about that! :o

Frenchy
February 7th, 2007, 09:41 PM
Really, how shallow can one be caring more about how your house looks than the animal you brought into it.

I second that. Place your dog into a rescue and get a fish.

technodoll
February 7th, 2007, 09:42 PM
Oh crap! No, he's only 90. He was 86 for a lonnng time and I combined the two. Sorry about that!

well that's because the 6 lbs is on the floor in one big fluffy pile :D

breeze
February 7th, 2007, 09:53 PM
well that's because the 6 lbs is on the floor in one big fluffy pile :D

it's not a big fluffy pile it's nakita i was wondering where she went

Crimson
February 7th, 2007, 09:53 PM
Many suggestions and options have been offered.
This thread has run it's course and will now be closed.