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Really Impressed With Clicker Training Success * Short video*

Colubridz
January 25th, 2007, 03:18 PM
Hey guys,

Since Duke already knows all of his basic commands like sit,stay,come, down,paw and high five I decided it was time to teach the more complex tricks like roll over, eventually play dead, crawl, turn around and so on.

We've only been working with a clicker for a week and I've already seen drematic improvements in his heeling and lesh walking as well as we've started to learn roll over. Were getting their he'll do it completely but still needs to be lured with a treat so hoping to be able to wean him off of that by early next week and just do it on command.

Occasionally I think my click is a 1/2 second to late or early but I'm getting alot better. Feel free to critic my training style. When I was getting him to do high five and paw I had treats in one hand and the clicker was slipping out of the other which I was trying to fix incase anyone is wondering why I look so spazy:P. On the first attempt at roll over it didn't work out so I used "wrong" a command I use to let him know what he did wasn't what I was looking for and did not click or treat and tried it again.

The video is maybe 40-60 seconds long and has all of his basic commands plus roll over.

http://www.streamdump.com/?021e22

Thank for looking
Kayla

P.s Duke will be 6 months old on Feb 9th:)

SARAH
January 25th, 2007, 03:21 PM
Great video, and Duke is really being a good boy at his tender age! I'm impressed :thumbs up

Question though, wouldn't it be more useful with different clicks for different commands, so you wouldn't have to say anything at all eventually? Just think if you lost your voice?

Colubridz
January 25th, 2007, 03:48 PM
Oh he already knows sign langauge for each command, the thing with clicker training is it's supposde to be an event marker, as it's faster then saying good boy or any type of praise thus you get an increased learning rate.

Kayla

SARAH
January 25th, 2007, 03:49 PM
Gotcha :thumbs up

jiorji
January 25th, 2007, 04:47 PM
good boy DUke!! good job :thumbs up

he gets an extra treat from me :D

Lissa
January 25th, 2007, 05:23 PM
I love clicker training too... It really makes training so much easier and teaching "complex" behaviours is nothing!
You should try "101 things to with a box [or any item]" - it's all about free shaping random behaviours...It gets your dog thinking and problem solving on his own.

I love that you video-taped your session - what a great way to track your progress! The things that I noticed are:
- You clicked a few times without rewarding...that's okay for a seasoned clicker trained dog on OCCASION but not all the time. The clicker tends to lose its effectiveness if the reward isn't always there.
- I don't like using a clicker for commands my dog already knows - only new behaviours. The only time I use a clicker for a behaviour he already knows is when shaping or with a dog that needs a confidence booster.
- I like to "conceal" treats as much as possible; I don't like my dog knowing when I have treats and when I don't (so I never run into the "he'll only work for a treat" problem).
- Lastly, try not to repeat your commands (this is something I stuggle with all the time)... The problem with repeating commands is that it can lead to sloppy execution of commands... your dog eventually realizes that he doesn't have to follow through until the second or third or fourth time etc... If you are going to repeat commands, let some time pass in between the first command and I personally wouldn't reward (even if he listens the second time).

PS - Duke has a really nice sphinx down!

Prin
January 25th, 2007, 05:58 PM
Cool! :)

(it upset my doggies (as in Boo sat up) because I vocally click when they're doing something wrong...:o)

Lukka'sma
January 25th, 2007, 07:10 PM
Lukka also responded very well to clicker training. I have nothing but good things to say about it. If I want to teach her something new I always grab the clicker and we have the job done in no time at all.

x.l.r.8
January 25th, 2007, 09:51 PM
there is a good site for clicker's it's clickersolutions.com we never looked back and were about to start again. It also makes changing cues easier, we changed a few and it took less than a minute. However it did nothing for socialisation so we went to classes as well, he shone in them and I believe it was because of the shaping with the clicker.

tenderfoot
January 26th, 2007, 10:17 AM
Question though, wouldn't it be more useful with different clicks for different commands, so you wouldn't have to say anything at all eventually? Just think if you lost your voice?

Hi Sarah,

The point of a clicker is to replace you saying 'good job', and comes 1/2 a heartbeat before a treat. Typically you can click faster that you would speak. Timing is everything.

The clicker is not meant to replace your voice forever - do you want to carry a clicker around for life? It is simply a marker for the right behavior - not an instruction. The goal should be that VERY quickly you are not using the clicker at all.

Spirit
January 26th, 2007, 11:18 AM
Good job Duke!

Sarah: Have you tried removing the clicker completely and commanding using just body language, or speech alone? A fun little test!