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amaruq
March 19th, 2004, 05:15 PM
I got a letter from the pound today saying my neighbor complained about my dogs barking.
We have had trouble with this neighbor for 6 yrs. Now he calls the pound on me? They bark but not all day or night and generally I'm right there to tell them to be quiet.

Now what do I do? I looked up collars. No way for the electric ones. Citronella spray????? But I read it doesn't really help., and can traumatise them. Oh I'm so heart broken right now.

I did go and talk to the SOB and he admits he did it to get back at me cause we don't like his stereo pounding. What an *&% he is!

HELP!!!!!!!!

mona_b
March 19th, 2004, 05:44 PM
Then I suggest you call the cops when the stereo is blasting.

Then I also suggest that you call the pound and tell them the situation...That your neighbour is an A$$.:D

Spoiled
March 19th, 2004, 05:50 PM
OK, thats just so unfair. Say no to getting in trouble. Just repeat it over and over "no, my dogs are not problem barkers. Whenever I hear them bark, I am right there to stop them. This guy has just called the pound because he wanted to get back at me for his stereo pounding."

Just keep repeating it over and over until they get the message!;)

Missy
March 19th, 2004, 06:55 PM
I agree...and that's so awful. I was an SPCA agent for a while many years ago and so many of the calls that they would receive were from vengeful neighbors looking for a way to make trouble. You would investigate a claim of animal cruelty/neglect and find out that the animal was in a good home but that there was a long-standing feud between someone in the neighborhood and this was one more attack. It makes it sooo much harder to figure out which dogs really need help :mad:

If you explain it to them, I'm sure they will understand. It happens so often...and you can also offer them an invitation to your place so they can see that your dogs are well-behaved and that you have control over them.

mona_b
March 19th, 2004, 07:09 PM
And what gets me is,the pound sent a letter instead of coming down to see you.

A friend of mine has an a$$ for a neighbour.He called animal controll on her and said her 2 bichons Misty and Mojo were pooping on his lawn.They never go on his lawn.They live side by side and there is no fencing for the front lawn.Those dogs are on a leash at all times.Well animal control came to her house.She talked to them,and they went back and talked to the grumpy man.

The nerve of some peoples children.:rolleyes:

chico2
March 19th, 2004, 07:11 PM
Amaruq,I am sorry to hear that and I hope you get it resolved....
There is barking and then there is barking:p
I complained once to the owner of a little wiener-dog who was yapping all day long,but his problem was being left alone all day outside.The owner from that day on kept the dog inside when she was gone all day.
But yours seem to be a mean-spirited problem,why did he call the HS? Just be careful so he does not harm your dogs,you never know!!!

amaruq
March 19th, 2004, 07:58 PM
Thanks you guys ((((group hug))))))

I'm having a really tough week and this just seems to be the icing on the cake.

I went and looked at all the collars and could not bring myself to buy one. I did buy a muzzle, and will use it sparingly. I feel so sorry for her.

Missy as an ASPC agent what did you do when you found out it was revenge. I'm absolutely sick that they will take away my girls. I would never mistreat any of them and butt head next door knows that. It's his G/f that has a problem. I was just at the vets and go again in april...vets said they are all in great shape.

Luba
March 19th, 2004, 09:23 PM
What a bugger neighbour

Do you know what your poochie is normally barking at?

amaruq
March 20th, 2004, 07:46 AM
Yep the rotten squirel that sit on the above wire and waves its butt! But truly i bring them in quick as not to bother people. Or I'm outside with them playing? He's being a jerk bait is all and trying to get back at us. But I still worry about my babies. Hubby is going to the pound today and talk to them. I have pictures of what his dogs live in. Garbage and garbage. Its gross.

Iggette
March 20th, 2004, 08:20 AM
This really is nasty isn't it .....useing your babies as a pawn to get back at you!! I know my Ursa goes just bolistic if she see's a squirell she will sit at the bottom of the tree till it comes down but will bark the whole time.......thank god I don't have neighbours close by to complain!!......I can really sympathize with your dilema:( I hope you can resolve the issue your neighbor sure is an a$$:mad:

chico2
March 20th, 2004, 08:32 AM
Amaruq I hope your hubbie can resolve this,but clearly the pound would not remove dogs that are loved and cared for?
I would think they have enough UNWANTED animals:mad:
Are you saying this miserable man has dogs too?
If only more humans would be like dogs:p

Missy
March 20th, 2004, 08:37 AM
Don't worry - taking someone's dog away is a last and worst case scenerio...and it was never done unless we had some concrete evidence that the dog was being neglected or abused.
Have them come by so they will be able to see that your dogs are happy ahd healthy and if you explain to them about the problems with your horrible neighbor then it should help resolve this.

I am pretty positive that they wouldn't have any cause to remove your animals and there is no way (if they are responsible people)would they take well-treated dogs out of a good home and put them into a cage in the pound.

Maybe you could start documenting when and for how long your dogs bark and keep detailed notes on all your interactions with your neighbor from here on in as a way to protect yourself and your dogs. That way you will have specific details to respond to if he continues to try to do this.

Anyway, I would think this be more of a noise by-law problem than a case for the pound.

Luba
March 20th, 2004, 02:47 PM
Well you can always do someting cruel LMAOOOO

Throw peanuts into the neighbours yard HAHAHHAA

mona_b
March 20th, 2004, 04:07 PM
Luba :eek:

OK OK,it was funny.....LOL..:p

amaruq
March 20th, 2004, 04:48 PM
Hubby went and talked to the pound. They said not to worry. He explained what's been happening. They also think its a vindictive neighbor. Hopefully its over and done (crossing fingers)

Spoiled
March 20th, 2004, 06:27 PM
Yay!!! Everything will be OK now!:D

chico2
March 20th, 2004, 09:49 PM
I did not think they would do anything....itis more of a by-law issue,like someone said before.
Here,dogs barking after 11pm is a no,no...so just in case,don't forget to put their watches on:)

kirei
March 20th, 2004, 09:57 PM
I can relate. I live below a guy who, without fail every 3:15am almost every night (the time it takes him to walk home after the bars close) will stomp around on his wood floors and blast his music. I've asked him at lease 3 times a month since I've moved in a year ago to please buy a pair of headphones or something.
The other day I was out walking my dog and he has the gaul to accuse my dog of barking all day causing him to not beable to study. I had been home all day with my dog all day and she had not barked at all.

Some people are just rude.

The noise bylaw (for Toronto anyway) actually states that noise -anytime- is grounds for a fine. See I served my rude neighbour a copy after his music was so loud that i could actually make out which songs he was playing.
The noise issue is why it's good to be civil with your neighbours. Since right now I'm living in those Victorian stack type house which are built side by side and there's an elderly couple right next door I usually keep quiet after 11 and they stopped playing their radio at full volume on Sunday mornings (my only day I get to sleep in)

melanie
March 21st, 2004, 02:55 PM
what are the noise laws where you are, surely a dog is allowed to bark in the day time, it is only expressing itself. a bit shocked at the toronto noise bylaws, wow, i would be to scared to fart. here in oz you can make as much noise as you like between the hours of 7am to 7pm, seriously i could stand in my yard with a jackhammer for 12 hours straight and no one could say a thing. but find out this noise info and your companion animal act or similar so you know your legal rights and responsibilities. then take it to the neighbour and shove it up his nose:D

Dee_petlover
March 22nd, 2004, 10:31 AM
What a nasty neighbour!
I can relate somewhat. I live in a townhouse and my dogs rarely bark when I'm gone. Once in a while when we go away for the night (which isn't often and we always have someone coming over to feed and let the dogs out) we seem to have a certain neighbour running to us complaining about our dogs barking all night long. I find this really hard to believe and usually when we investigate by talking to other neighbours, it really wasn't all night long, it was for a specific time period at night but certainly not "all night long"

One of my neighbours dog anoyed someone so they came home to a notice posted on the door with the box checked that said the animal had been reported abandoned and they were to call within 24 hours. The dog had only been there for the day while my neighbour was at work! Nothing happened but how nasty to report someone falsely. A dog barking or something is certainly a different story than abandoning them!

It annoys me when some neighbours try to make it out like dogs shouldn't live here because they don't like them and make out like some little thing is a huge problem. Some people! I could go on and on but I'll stop now.

Good luck with resolving your issues with your neighbour

deerclan
March 22nd, 2004, 03:43 PM
amaruq... I had the same thing happen to me where i used to live.
My neighbors eldest son teased my 2 GSHP causing them to bark.So i ended up with a fine of $135.00 from the City and animal control. What a !#$%*

I explained my situation but they didn't listen.

So i got even by studying the land code laws my fine cost me $135.00, He had to replace his shed cause it was to high $600.00
He also had to put up a new fence around his pool because it wasn't high enough that was an easy $1000.00 or more

I hope that gives you some ideas to battle back.

DeerClan

wAggie
March 22nd, 2004, 04:19 PM
HOLY SH!T!!!

I best get my dogs under control!!!!!!!

when ever the neighbours let the cats walk around the rooftops or when the CHILDREN taunt the dogs, they got ballistic!

I figure they're the once suffering... but once I dont hear it coming to an end, I bring the dogs in the house.

I had NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO idea I could be fined for my barking dogs. :mad: :rolleyes:

deerclan
March 22nd, 2004, 04:38 PM
wAggie....The fines are realy big now!
The GSHP i had before Tracker bit a guy that used to live next me where i am now,The police came and everything and that cost me just under $200.00,Plus i had to pay the guys wages for the month he was off and that was another $1600.00

Out of court settlement

DeerClan

amaruq
March 22nd, 2004, 04:49 PM
What the pound told us is every dog barks. You can't stop a dog from totally barking but there is a by law again excessive barking..where it goes on for long periods of time. One two three woofs is nothing. Its the dogs outside that bark for hours on end that get fined.
I am writing a diary of when they bark...how many. Like today we are up to 4 woofs.
My neighbor is a pig! Can't take the garbage out for love or money. I have been taken pictures for years as it stinks and at times has been piled so high I can see it over my 5'5" fence. He doesn't like to clean up doggy do do. He now got a pup on top of another dog. It's gross. He has all of 10'x 25' yard. All garbage. In fact today i was out taking pictures again as they have boxes of old food open all over. I never called health dept. But dang he ticks me off enough I will.
Deerclan...was your neighbor responsible for the dog bite? Like did he do something to the dog? I think when people get bit they should look at the reason why? Most times people deserve it.

melanie
March 22nd, 2004, 05:46 PM
please be careful not to let him see you taking the pics, this could antagonise him or make him angry or a real bitch just to wage war with you (and he seems a little crazy so you dont want him to hurt you or your dogs). and OMG will they ban talking in the streets next, if anything animals should have more flexability in these areas as they are only natural creatures doing what comes naturally. just makes me mad:mad:

wAggie
March 22nd, 2004, 07:50 PM
omg, this sounds SO horribly insane I cant believe it!!

Chocolate goes on a feuding bark when Honey's chasing him & he's enjoying it... so he lets her know he wants her to TRY & catch him ;)

and that's a darn loud bark, oops, I meant barkS
Its not "excessive" in the sense that it lasts for hours but it can be a min or two :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

the instant my ears start ringing my blood pressure skyrockets & I stop them IMMEDIATELY.

*sigh*

deerclan
March 22nd, 2004, 08:18 PM
amaruq....Yes he did my oldest daughter witnessed him poking her with a stick.

DeerClan

Luba
March 22nd, 2004, 09:49 PM
Thats disgusting deerclan...
probably a deliberate taunt to stir something up.

What happened to your dog after this?

amaruq
March 23rd, 2004, 08:02 AM
What a jerk bait your neighbor is deerclan!!!!!!!!

Waggie don't worry about a few minutes....you also try to stop them...its the people who don't stop the dogs and they go on and on. I love the sound of kids playing and dogs playing. Its a happy sound and you know they are happy doing it.

deerclan
March 23rd, 2004, 12:26 PM
Luba....Nothing happened to my dog she actualy played with a couple of the police officers they determined she wasn't vicious.

She later died that year of a stroke.

amaruq
March 23rd, 2004, 12:31 PM
(((deerclan)))

wAggie
March 23rd, 2004, 08:29 PM
I know what you mean, amaruq :)


sorry to read that, deerclan :(

Luba
March 23rd, 2004, 09:16 PM
Oh the poor baby ((hugs to you)) deerclan

I'm sure she was a sweetheart!

deerclan
March 24th, 2004, 08:56 AM
Penny was the best GSHP i have ever owned. we got her the same time my eldest son was born.My son used her little stuby tail to learn how to walk.

All i can say folks is whatch your pets and learn your bylaws where you live and don't be afraid to fight back.

DeerClan

Chany
March 24th, 2004, 09:22 AM
Know you might be thinking what does she know?, but all I can say is be thankful there are bylaws. We live on an acerage outside of a small town and here people take the law into their own hands. We had a problem with our previous 2 dogs running and believe me they were the gentlest things around but they were big dogs. Our so called neighbor about 2 miles away from us came over the first time they got out and warned us if he saw them again they wouldn't be coming back. ( Welcome to the neighborhood huh? ) After that warning we tried everything but we also have 3 young kids work full time and I guess the third times a charm because they came back allright one with a 3 inch hole in her side the other with the top of his mouth blown out like someone was above them shooting at them. And there was nothing we could do to him!!! Besides having one of us end up in jail, and that was very close to happening!!!

Peanut
March 24th, 2004, 09:43 AM
OH MY GOD Chany!!! I can't believe what I just read.

How could someone do that to one of God's creatures?? If were in your shoes I would have most definately ended up in jail because that man might just 'happen' to run into my car. (not that I'm a violent person, but the thought of someone doing that to my beloved animal makes me want to punish them)

(((hugs)) to all who have jerks for neighbours.

Chany
March 24th, 2004, 09:58 AM
Believe me nastier things have went through our minds!!:D :D I'd still like some revenge without jail time ( 3 kids ). That was just last June so the anger is still there. Although his wife has left him and he avoids us on the street we made sure everyone we worked with saw pictures of our dogs and knew who had done it. And one thing good about small towns gossip spreads fast, also the police went and explained to him he had absolutely no right to do that, they reassured us that he understood that now!! I think the officer was a dog lover himself and he got to see the dogs while they were still alive and even in that much pain they never growled at the vets, assisstants or police. The female even let me pick her up and put her in the back of the truck to take her to the vets that morning!! How gentle is that? I had heard of owners getting bit when their dogs were hurt but I considered her my friend:)

mona_b
March 24th, 2004, 10:03 AM
Peanut,that happens on farms.

Years ago I got my sisters family a GSD at 2 months old.Torri was such a good girl.They moved on a farm when Torri was about a year.Torri was very well trained.Stayed on the property.But when the kids took her for a walk,she was on a leash.The neighbour Bob knew Torri.She loved cats,and didn't go after the cows at all.Well one day my nephew Brandon was taken Torri for a walk.His shoe lace came undone.He went to bend over and the leash slipped out of his hand.Torri for some reason took off.He ended up at Bobs farm next door.They heard a shot.Yes,Bob shot and killed Torri.He knew that she belonged to my sister.Heck,she had her florecent pink collar and leash on.

Well my Brother-in-law,also a Bob,and my sister ran over there.They freaked on him.My sister called him every name in the book.And trust me,so did I when I went the following weekend.

His excuse,I didn't know who the dog belonged to.My A$$ you didn't.

They family was devistated.And I was too.

On farms,they have every right to shoot a dog that comes on the property.But come on,if you know who owns the dog,then let them let the owners know.My sister went looking right after my nephew told them she took off.

Chany
March 24th, 2004, 10:38 AM
Actually mona b according to the police here they don't have that right. Everyone thinks so , even we did but the only thing that saved this guys ass was we didn't have the bullets to prove they came out of his gun. That's what animal control or the police are for. Unless the bylaws there are different??

mona_b
March 24th, 2004, 10:53 AM
Well I guess the laws are different.

Where my sister is,here in Ontario,farmers do have the right to shoot.The OPP where called in.And they even had said that he had the right.But knowing that he knew who Torri belonged to,he should not have shot her.Especially since she had her leash still on her and my nephew was calling her.The neighbour told the OPP that she was after his cows.That was a load of BS.My sister has cows.He was just being a P***k...

She now has 3 Siberian Huskies and a Border Collie.

Chany
March 24th, 2004, 11:01 AM
Well at least I'm glad not all asses live here in Sask. My only hope is that people like that get whats coming to them. I guess they don't feel the same way about animals!! Did that guy have kids? You think they would have enough compassion to understand how much the kids hurt when **** like this happens.

mona_b
March 24th, 2004, 11:16 AM
Nope,no kids at all.

It didn't even seem to bother him that my 3 nephews and my neice were bawling their eyes out.And ended up having nightmares about it.More my neice.She was only 4 at the time.And Torri was her bed buddy.It was funny.Torri would make her rounds at bed time.Give everyone kisses.Then end up sleeping with my neice.She loved that.

The 2 OPP cops were totaly disgusted that there was no remorse with this guy.They even had to make him apologize.And they did have a few choice words for him.

My poor little nephew blamed himself for this for the longest time.

They are all teenagers now.But they have not forgotten their beloved Torri.

Chany
March 24th, 2004, 11:28 AM
WHAT A ***** *******!!! I feel so bad for your niece and nephews. Does he even have the balls to look them in the eyes anymore??? Thank GOD this jerk lives far enough away from us because I don't think I could have handled him being our closest neighbor!! At least he hasn't reproduced another thing to be thankful for:D :D

mona_b
March 24th, 2004, 12:44 PM
Unfortunately they still see him all the time.But the kids won't say boo to him.And now that they are teenagers,well I don't think I have to tell what comes out of their mouth.LOL...And no they didn't learn it from me,their favorite Auntie.:D

melanie
March 24th, 2004, 02:39 PM
pity you cant shoot the farmers, hey they come on your property and are pretty vicious by the sounds of things, you would only be killing a vicious mongrel anyway. god i hate this type of stuff. there is a common rule here that if your dogs are seen on a farm they are shot immeadiatly, no questions asked. about a year ago a farmer came to me and said his cattle had been mauled to death in the night and that it just had to be my dog, just cause she breaths and she is GSD (it was definatly not her, she was in the house all night). i told him he had want to get his facts straight, have the cattle checked and tested by vets and get a bloody good lawyer. any one accuses my girl of such a thing had better be ready for a fight, cause i will take it as far as necessary. well he dropped that one immeadiatly and told me later it was the dogs from across the river. but what do you do, recently here there have been packs of greyhounds killing cattle and horses, chasing wallabies and eating the babies of wallabies. and sadly i can imagine a dog or 2 will be killed by mistake for being in the wrong place at the wrong time due to these ratbags. perhaps allowing councils to hire hunters for wild packs of dogs and not allowing farmers to have guns or other weapons (we dont have wolfs or anything scary, so it would be different over ther). but you never know, you could just accidentally fall on your gun when it was pointing at the mongrel that killed your babies, hey you thought he might bite and it was an accident, :D :D

Chany
March 24th, 2004, 02:52 PM
Sorry cal me dumb AGAIN but I cannot for the life of me figure out what GSHP or GSD stand for??:confused:

mona_b
March 24th, 2004, 05:09 PM
GSHP=German Short Haired Pointer.

GSD=German Shepherd Dog.

:D

wAggie
March 24th, 2004, 11:03 PM
and they say living on a farm is GOOD for a dog??!

:rolleyes:

chico2
March 25th, 2004, 07:45 AM
Obviously not Aggie:mad:
I saw it happening in Alberta,but they shot their own dogs,when they were no more useful,limping or something like that..
But on the Alberta praries they seem to still live in the"old wild west"bubble,have gun will shoot!!
That's just the impression I got after visiting an Alta ranch for a couple of weeks,south of Calgary.
But I guess it happens everywhere..
Why would anyone shoot a dog?Especially one with a collar and a leash,if not for the sick thrill of killing"red-neck"style?
The two German shepards being shot,would have brought me over the edge...I always thought the Farming community to be a closeknit,"watch out for eachother"community...but I guess I am wrong if shooting your neighbors dog is acceptable.
Ps.No offence meant to you western girls,it's beautiful out west,being born a city-girl,I just had a hard time dealing with some of the happenings on a farm...

amaruq
March 25th, 2004, 08:03 AM
No offence taken.
Some farmers are plain hicks!
There was some stuff on the farm I saw that I will never get out of my brain..sounds weird but I was traumatised by it.
My dad tell stories (which I won't repeat here) That are so awful I can't stand it! I don't think he has ever had compassion for any animal.