January 21st, 2007, 09:26 AM
first of all, i know it's been posted that most members are in favor of neutering and spaying their pets [i am too]...my situation is this: i would like my 2 year old male siamese cat to impregnate my 3 year old black and white cat so my family and my 2 cats can have a -hopefully- enjoyable experience of having a litter of kittens...once this is accomplished, i will get them spayed and neteured, because i don't want my female cat to have to go through more than one pregnancy [and having to give birth more than once]. we used to have 2 gerbils that mated constantly and the female was having babies once a month...well i put a stop to that...because i felt sorry for her always being pregnant...so i separated the 2 mating adult gerbils into 2 separate cages. anyway, my 2 cats have been mating for over a year now with no "results". they both look and behave like cats who are in very good health. could the male cat be impotent?
could my female cat have something wrong or lacking with her reproductive organs or are they just missing the boat?:goodvibes: any positive feedback on this issue would be greatly appreciated.
January 21st, 2007, 09:39 AM
Good to hear that your cat isn't pregnant yet. My hope is that she NEVER gets pregnant. You want her to have the "enjoyable experience of having a litter of kittens"??? Enjoyable for who ... you or your cat? I have my doubts that your cat will enjoy it. :frustrated:
You are not likely to receive a lot of advice here.
January 21st, 2007, 09:52 AM
Have to concur with Dogastrophe. Unless your Siamese as well as your other kitty are certified Grand Champions with the requisite pedigrees and you have extensive experience and a mentor (even those of us who have some experience with this, usually not because we chose it - usually found pregnant and needy kitties are our problem - what you will be doing is known as back yard breeding. Since you are asking questions as to why she is not yet pregnant, my guess is you do not have this experience so I would recommend you do not do this. It is unsafe and not at all fun for the mama cat. Neither cat is healthy unspayed or neutered so I hope you do that asap!! I am sure you love your cats and if you do, pls do that!! There are many many kittens who need new homes at thousands of rescues (considering there are 70,000 kittens born for every 1,000 human babies) and as for the experience, there are lots of videos on Youtube - some credible breeders - (some prob not) - you can view.
I myself have the prerequisite Show Quality Siamese female and had was spayed as soon as her vet could fit her in!
Your cats will thank you for it!
January 21st, 2007, 09:55 AM
first of all, i know it's been posted that most members are in favor of neutering and spaying their pets
So why are you still asking ? Don't you know how many feral cats,how many homeless cats in spca , shelters,pounds that get euthanize EVERYDAY. And still you want to bring some more into this world !!! If you want more cats, why don't you go adopt cats who are already here and in need of a family ? You are NOT going to get ANY help for breeding animals here.
January 21st, 2007, 09:58 AM
Unless your Siamese as well as your other kitty are certified Grand Champions with the requisite pedigrees
Even if, you're not a certified breeder, you don't have any business breeding animals. :shrug:
January 21st, 2007, 10:04 AM
Yeah I agree with the others. There really is no need for your children to see an animal having a litter. It probably won't be a pleasant experience for anybody involved, and most especially for the cat.
I hope you change your mind, or else I hope that your cat never gets pregnant:fingerscr
January 21st, 2007, 10:27 AM
I very much appreciate that this thread has not become rude. :thumbs up
January 21st, 2007, 11:18 AM
I wish I had kept a picture I saw once, so I could post it here. It was of one of those steel hospital carts, sitting outside the euthanasia room at a pound somewhere in Canada or the US, and it was piled high with dead cats. There must have been fifty or sixty in all. 'A day's work', the caption read.
It's 'natural, beautiful', to breed, you say. Yes it is natural. But beautiful? Replace that image with a heap of dead cats, most barely out of kittenhood themselves, perfectly healthy, their only crime being that there were too many of them, not enough cages and not enough homes.
Give your animals - and the people who work to save their offspring and their offspring and their offspring - a break. Get them fixed. If you want a kitten, find a rescue in your area and adopt one.
I have no idea why your cats can't get it on. You'll have to ask a vet. Maybe she just doesn't fancy him. Maybe he's gay.
January 21st, 2007, 11:27 AM
I was one of those kids who got to "experience a cat give birth". My neighbours cat had kittens and guess what....I couldn't care less! I was more worried about getting back on the playground.
Please save "the experience" for a video that is already out, it wont make a difference whether it's live or on TV.
January 21st, 2007, 11:44 AM
Maybe your cat isn't pregnant yet because the 'powers that be' are giving you time to become more sensible. Your motives are really all selfish - just for you - with little or no thought to your cats. If you are so excited about having kittens, the pounds and SPCA's are full of them. It would be far better to be a responsible cat owner, have your cats neutered, and adopt the kittens YOU want to have so much!
January 21st, 2007, 12:00 PM
UMMMMMMMMMM didn't your kids witness the miracle of birth with the gerbils?
January 21st, 2007, 01:52 PM
Well, there are 92 794 on petfinder right now, looking for homes, thats only the rescues who list on petfinder....:rolleyes: Lets add another litter. :frustrated: :mad:
January 21st, 2007, 07:23 PM
If you are looking for a life-affirming, positive experience regarding animals, pregnancy and birthing to share with your family perhaps you may want to consider one of many working-farm vacations offered by Ontario farmers.
Or perhaps you might consider becoming a foster family to some of the many thousands of unwanted kittens and cats (who may also have started life as a "miracle of birth" experience) available in shelters and rescues. I can think of few greater, more selfless acts of giving than fostering the unwanted and the homeless.
January 21st, 2007, 07:46 PM
UMMMMMMMMMM didn't your kids witness the miracle of birth with the gerbils?
eeww i have...it's NOT pretty. It wasn't intended by the way. :shrug:
so...birdtennis are you male or female? I ask only because well if you're female and have had kids, you should know that giving birth is not a walk through the park. You cat could die, the kittens could die. Is that really worth it to get your cat to experience motherhood ??:sad:
Also, you can sign up with your local cable company for some Nature shows channels. Those have LOTS of animal giving birth shows that I'm sure your kids will enjoy watching ....or they could get scarred for life. Have you considered that?:o
Someone giving birth to a bloody eyeless and earless fetus like being is nothing i'd want my children to witness. :yuck: And do you know the cat eats the placenta after?? Do you want your kids to see that too?:yuck:
I hope you reconsider and get that poor cat spayed because trust me, she'll get no enjoyment from giving birth 5-6 times in a row.
January 22nd, 2007, 02:14 AM
If you are still reading responses, you've certainly gotten the "please DON'T litter" message by now, and will hopefully reconsider your plans. Folks on the board aren't trying to gang up on you; it's just that so many have had to deal with the effects of unwanted animals :sad: .
After investing a ton of $$, time, and emotion in 'saving' a family of 5 feral cats over the past 6-7 mos., I have gotten VERY passionate about spaying and neutering. To concentrate on s/n-ing every animal possible, and caring for the critters that already exist, should be our priority.
PLEASE DON'T BREED [YOUR PETS]!!!!
January 22nd, 2007, 07:31 AM
I agree with everyone else. What, exactly, do you plan to do with the kittens once they're born? Do you really think the world needs more kittens? It just kind of bugs me because I spend money out of my pocket to have ferals neutered, only to have folks like you add to the already huge and largely unwanted pet population because you want your children to see the miracle of birth. Believe me, I saw kittens being born when I was about 4 or 5 years old and I didn't think it was so great. Just my 2 cents.
January 22nd, 2007, 01:48 PM
My thoughts are pretty much the same as everyone else, I have also seen too many cats come to the clinic and have died a horrible death because something went wrong and went unoticed. One poor kitty was only a year old and died because one kitten got stuck in the berth canal, sorrry but it is someithng I will never forget. If you really want your family to witness the miracle of birth rent a dvd from the library or find a shelter/foster home with a pregnant cat and ask them to video tape if for you or they may even let you watch if that is what you really want, but I would imagine it would be too stressful on the cat for too many people she doesn't know around.
January 22nd, 2007, 02:02 PM
Originally Posted by: Badger
Maybe he's gay.
January 22nd, 2007, 02:12 PM
Please look at these links:
Please head to the Toronto Humane Society and Toronto Animal Services to see for yourself that there are far too many cats in need of homes. Yes, they get Siamese. Purebred animals are often found in shelters.
See? Lovely Siamese. (http://www.petharbor.com/detail.asp?ID=A378506&LOCATION=TRNT4&searchtype=ADOPT&start=4&stylesheet=include/default.css&friends=1&samaritans=1&nosuccess=0&rows=10&imght=120&imgres=thumb&view=sysadm.v_animal&nomax=1&fontface=arial&fontsize=10&zip=M&miles=200&shelterlist='TRNT1','TRNT5','TRNT3','TRNT2','TRNT4 ','TRNT','TRHS'&where=type_CAT,breed_SIAMESE)
Beautiful Himalayan, too (http://www.petharbor.com/detail.asp?ID=A375457&LOCATION=TRNT5&searchtype=ADOPT&start=4&stylesheet=include/default.css&friends=1&samaritans=1&nosuccess=0&rows=10&imght=120&imgres=thumb&view=sysadm.v_animal&nomax=1&fontface=arial&fontsize=10&zip=M&miles=200&shelterlist='TRNT1','TRNT5','TRNT3','TRNT2','TRNT4 ','TRNT','TRHS'&where=type_CAT,breed_HIMALAYAN)
Lovely Maine Coon (http://www.petharbor.com/detail.asp?ID=A107481&LOCATION=TRHS&searchtype=ADOPT&start=4&stylesheet=include/default.css&friends=1&samaritans=1&nosuccess=0&rows=10&imght=120&imgres=thumb&view=sysadm.v_animal&nomax=1&fontface=arial&fontsize=10&zip=M&miles=200&shelterlist='TRNT1','TRNT5','TRNT3','TRNT2','TRNT4 ','TRNT','TRHS'&where=type_CAT,breed_LONGHAIR^PERSIAN) (with an adorable companion)