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Sean p diddy Combs selling dog fur!!!!

heidiho
December 22nd, 2006, 05:30 PM
This is disgusting and incredibly sad!

The Humane Society of the United States has just written this damning expose on their website, revealing that Diddy's clothing company is selling dog fur! And some stores are labeling it "faux."

The HSUS tested the fur on a Sean John Hooded Snorkel Jacket sold on Macys.com that was originally advertised, incorrectly, as having an "imitation rabbit fur collar" and materials identified as "faux fur."

The jacket, which Diddy's company described as containing "raccoon" fur, has now been found to come from a canine species known as raccoon dog.

Previous tests conducted by The HSUS on fur-trimmed jackets from a range of other retailers and designers revealed the same problem--raccoon dog fur from China mislabeled as being from a different species, either "raccoon" or "coyote."

The mislabeling of a fur product is a violation of federal law.

China has no animal welfare laws. Animals killed for their fur in China--dogs, raccoon dogs and others--often face horrible abuse, and are too often skinned alive.

Macy's has reportedly pulled the mislabeled Sean John garments from its department stores and online shop, but The HSUS is calling on Diddy and other designers and retailers to stop using and selling fur trim altogether.

Frenchy
December 22nd, 2006, 05:50 PM
China has no animal welfare laws. Animals killed for their fur in China--dogs, raccoon dogs and others--often face horrible abuse, and are too often skinned alive.



I saw a video of it a couple years ago. From someone undercover, they played it later at night , Dateline NBC or 20/20 . It was the must disgusting thing I've ever seen. It still haunts me. :sad: There so many things we are not aware of. How many people bought the stuff from P diddy company without knowing what it really was. Disgusting.

heidiho
December 22nd, 2006, 05:58 PM
That is pretty disturbing i would due the guy if i bought something that had dog fur,well i wouldnt even be buying anything that resembles fur anyway

Golden Girls
December 23rd, 2006, 12:43 AM
I've purchased "faux" before knowing what it possibly was, the label says trimmings 100% acrylic, sure sure! Here's a link to Larry King's show last Dec. on this topic (no video's attached)
http://www.animalsvoice.com/PAGES/writes/editorial/news/features/larryking_catdogfur1.htmlThere's also a thread on this particular show somewhere here.

doggirl1
January 16th, 2007, 09:58 AM
If interested, you may go to the PETA link http://blog.peta.org/archives/2006/12/pdiddys_dogfur_1.php
to view the truth about using dog fur in fashion. I do believe Puff Daddy knew what was in his clothing just as Martha Stewart knows what ingredients go into her dishes. :dog: :cat:

jiorji
January 16th, 2007, 10:11 AM
yeah....PETA's a great source for facts....they don't twist the information for their sake at all....nope....:rolleyes:


I'm not sure how true this story is. I'd have to see it for myself. I'm not taking his side, cos well he wears real fur and that's nasty as is, but this dog fur thing seems waaaaaaaaayy out there :shrug: and if this is a rumour, it's pretty sick.:sad:

4thedogs
January 16th, 2007, 10:48 AM
I haven't read anything on this topic yet besides what I have just read.

My question is this, is it just the fur or is the skin attached like in a fur coat. If it is just the fur I don't see a problem in it. There was a program I watched a couple years ago of a woman that was using the hair from her newfs to knit hats, mittens, etc. She used the hair removed through brushing.

Golden Girls
January 16th, 2007, 11:16 AM
yeah....PETA's a great source for facts....they don't twist the information for their sake at all....nope....:rolleyes:
I'm not sure how true this story is. I'd have to see it for myself. I'm not taking his side, cos well he wears real fur and that's nasty as is, but this dog fur thing seems waaaaaaaaayy out there :shrug: and if this is a rumour, it's pretty sick.:sad:You've got to be kidding me? Alot of people have made themselves sick so that they can expose this kind of cruelty and not just Peta. However no one will do house calls so if you really want to see it for yourself purchase a faux fur jacket and get it tested. How much do you want to bet it's dog and cat fur?

DIDDY's an A** you can click it ... it's not Peta reporting, its the New York Post: http://www.nypost.com/seven/12242006/news/regionalnews/dog_diddy_breaks_vow_to__go_faux_regionalnews_eliz abeth_wolff_and_chris_michaud.htm

Hunter's_owner
January 16th, 2007, 11:24 AM
If PETA had not been found to twist information before, then there would never be doubts of any of their claims.:shrug:

technodoll
January 16th, 2007, 11:27 AM
PETA is not on the line here. People killing animals for profit and fashion are. right? :frustrated:

Prin
January 16th, 2007, 11:51 AM
I doubt PETA too. If another source (more reliable) says it's true, than ok. But PETA is not exactly a reliable source for news, IMO.

technodoll
January 16th, 2007, 11:52 AM
as GG said... it's not Peta reporting, its the New York Post: http://www.nypost.com/seven/12242006...is_michaud.htm

Hunter's_owner
January 16th, 2007, 11:54 AM
PETA is not on the line here. People killing animals for profit and fashion are. right? :frustrated:

Yes TD, I agree, but unless another source backs up the info that PETA states, then I have no choice but to doubt their findings. I keep it no secret that I am not a fan of PETA's, and I am as big an animal lover as it gets.

jiorji
January 16th, 2007, 12:00 PM
If PETA had not been found to twist information before, then there would never be doubts of any of their claims.:shrug:

exactly.

I DON'T wear fur. I don't BUY fur. Buying it to "test" it would be ridiculous. How is posting a picture of Diddy going to prove that he wears dog/cat fur??Why don't you post pictures of other celebrities who too wear fur????

I agree that killing for fashion is disgusting, but i'm not ashamed to check all my facts before I make my decision.

Prin
January 16th, 2007, 12:04 PM
exactly.

I DON'T wear fur. I don't BUY fur. Buying it to "test" it would be ridiculous. How is posting a picture of Diddy going to prove that he wears dog/cat fur??Why don't you post pictures of other celebrities who too wear fur????

I agree that killing for fashion is disgusting, but i'm not ashamed to check all my facts before I make my decision.

Great post.:)

technodoll
January 16th, 2007, 12:10 PM
i don't understand why slam PETA, instead of slamming all the crooks and liars of the world who abuse animals? :confused: in this case it's not even about PETA at all.. i get the feeling they're a quick "blame all" when something uncomfortable pops up, which diverts attention from the real problem, people like this guy! my :2cents:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/16329355/
Sean John jackets were made with dog fur
Macy’s pulls items after group says animals killed in China for material

Golden Girls
January 16th, 2007, 12:13 PM
jiorji I have to ask are we having the same conversation ... meaning are we discussing the same topic here - I'm confused? This topic and his picture has to do wish HIS line called: $280 SNORKEL COATS that's labelled "raccoon-dog fur" but really is "dog fur" < -- not that it's any less discusting! Why would I post other celebrity pictures?

He had said he was not aware of China's use of dogs and cats and therefore pulled it from the market yet here he is on Dec 27th wearing his jacket. They were pulled from Macy's yet still on the racks in the "fifth avenue flaghip store" - that being the topic. You said you wanted proof - or in your words it's a rumour, how do u plan to get it then? You can hate Peta - who cares :frustrated: or is it fair to say you just think it's a big conspiracy. So animals are not suffering, their not getting skinned alive nor is China mis-labelling their products? And when Larry King did the show back in Dec 2005 "DOGS AND CATS ABUSED FOR THEIR FUR" it's really just a mis-understanding :rolleyes:

Prin
January 16th, 2007, 12:14 PM
Yeah, but then there's this:

In a statement by Sean “Diddy” Combs released by his publicist Hampton Carney, the designer said: “I was completely unaware of the nature of this material, but as soon as we were alerted, the garments were pulled off the Macy’s floor and Web site. I have instructed our outerwear licensee to cease the production of any garments using this material immediately.”
:shrug: I would understand bashing him if he kept going with the dog fur or whatever, but if he's stopping, and honestly, we all know they have no clue what's going on in the Chinese factories...:shrug: Boycott the clothes. Ok? And? He's not the only one and won't be the last.:shrug:


Anyway, this:
Macy’s removal of the coats comes on the heels of other tests conducted by the Humane Society of the United States on a range of fur-trimmed jackets from retailers such as Burlington Coat Factory, Bloomingdale’s, J.C. Penney and Saks Fifth Avenue as well as from designers and clothing lines such as Baby Phat, Andrew Marc, MaxMara and Calvin Klein. Those tests revealed that most of the jackets labeled as “raccoon” or coyote” from China in fact contained fur from raccoon dogs.Makes it more plausible than any statement or campaign from peta.

technodoll
January 16th, 2007, 12:15 PM
good post GG! exactly my thoughts on this matter :)

technodoll
January 16th, 2007, 12:16 PM
Makes it more plausible than any statement or campaign from peta.

well thank the lord other entities are backing up what PETA has been saying all along ;)

Prin
January 16th, 2007, 12:16 PM
well thank the lord other entities are backing up what PETA has been saying all along ;)

That's what happens when they accidentally stumble on something that's true.

Hunter's_owner
January 16th, 2007, 12:18 PM
That's what happens when they accidentally stumble on something that's true.

Or when they report facts and don't falsify information;)

technodoll
January 16th, 2007, 12:18 PM
no matter what people think of PETA... at least they get the message out... and get people talking :thumbs up they get my $$ from time to time and i'm proud of it :)

Golden Girls
January 16th, 2007, 12:18 PM
Uncomfortable topic, that's an understatement but to defend something because you hate someone ... that's just sad. I'm out of here!

Prin
January 16th, 2007, 12:20 PM
Nobody's defending anybody. We're just saying we can do our own research and find the (more unbiased) info by other means than from PETA. :shrug: If it's true, there will be other sources.

Hunter's_owner
January 16th, 2007, 12:21 PM
I haven't been defending the bad guys at all. I am just as against abuse and all that as anyone here. But when peta's name is used, I cringe. I know about some of the bad things that they have done and I don't like them for that. However, like TD said, in a lot of cases they get the message out and get people talking and I am all for that:thumbs up

technodoll
January 16th, 2007, 12:22 PM
...and the sources are plenty in this case (celebrity clothing line reeking of dead dogs). that guy should be put up in the Hall of Shame and exiled to the sahara desert :frustrated: along with all the other idjits who peddle the same wares for profit :yuck:

Golden Girls
January 16th, 2007, 12:25 PM
What I'm trying to say is that the education is there, and if you do think there is a slight, sliver, hint, possibility that animals are being horribly abused in the crueliest of cruel - skinned alive all because of OUR demand - you would not hesitate to add to this topic and not re-direct it back against your thoughts on Peta. Man Peta would love this board, so much attention on them :rolleyes: you are sure giving them way too much credit if you ask me

happycats
January 16th, 2007, 01:15 PM
I believe P. Diddiy, puff, daddy, P.D (or whatever the heck he calls himself now:rolleyes:) knew or should have known it was dog fur.
I believe this because this disgusting practice in China was exposed years ago, and the rest of the world was cautioned about China's use of dog and cat fur. Hell for the price of the "racoon fur" from China you would have to be a fool not to know it was dog!! He was trying to make his garments dirt cheap, and sell for a HUGE profit!! That's what this was all about:2cents: :2cents: :2cents: and I don't think P Diddy gave a rats behind what kind of fur this was as long as he was making the $$$$$$.

Golden Girls
January 16th, 2007, 04:31 PM
I believe he knew exactly what was going on only ... he got caught! By not removing it all just proves his intent - $$$ as usual < -- like he desperately needs any more :rolleyes: Can you imagine the good he could of done, it's shameful! I hope he falls flat on his face with all his diamonds and blings if for no other reason just to break those freakin Elton John glasses
I agree that killing for fashion is disgusting, but i'm not ashamed to check all my facts before I make my decision.You'll never find a post from me especially a topic as important as this without facts, afterall there are thousands of people visiting this board daily and not just members that post either. So if you don't mind either educate yourself or move on. I'll re-post the above link but I won't read it for you.

Taking Peta completely out of the picture - Mr. Rick Swain, Chief Investigator for the Humane Society of the U.S. and former homicde detective HIMSELFwent to China posing as a fur wholesaler in 1998-1999 and filmed horrific - I mean discusting footage so the world could see and hopefully acknowledge and try and help. Who the heck else is going to help pass this horror on - our government? The people who can help the animals are people like you and I ... animal lovers who don't have an agenda. You must 1st though be a believable witness !
http://www.animalsvoice.com/PAGES/writes/editorial/news/features/larryking_catdogfur1.html

heidiho
January 16th, 2007, 04:42 PM
In our newspaper i just read that JCPenney was also selling fur trimmed jackets saying i think it was racoon when it really was wild dogs from China....

Golden Girls
January 16th, 2007, 05:07 PM
Heidiho ... baby steps :angel: it's a horrible industry and many still prefer taking an ostrich's stance. Just look here :shrug: out of maybe 10 people you have still a few who'll argue opposition even with facts.

Exposure over and over again is what it'll take. When people realize it is them that's indirectly responsible for the horror - that's when it'll end. You have to hit them where it hurts - $. The demand must stop!

dogcatharmony
January 16th, 2007, 05:16 PM
This is oh so sad. It doesn't matter who , where, what, whatever...........The bottom line is ANIMAL ABUSE must STOP!!! Put your dang indifferences aside.....fight for the ones who have no voice to stop the injustices that are being done to them. Use that voice for an arguement that means something. Everyone must know that animals suffer everyday, whether is is for fashion, food, ignorant people.......what ever!! Stop arguing over what company or organization said what.........speak from the heart...speak for the animals!!!!!

heidiho
January 16th, 2007, 05:45 PM
what do you mean baby steps????I agree we should all just think about what is best for the animals.....

Golden Girls
January 16th, 2007, 05:52 PM
I just meant it's a slow proccess and alot to absorb right away.

heidiho
January 16th, 2007, 05:52 PM
And yet another 'Rapper.......He had 99 problems, now Jay-Z has one more.

A jacket from Jigga's clothing line, Rocawear, allegedly has dog fur in its collar, even though it's advertised as having fake fur. According to an investigation by The Humane Society of the United States, the Hunter jacket on Rocawear.com contains real fur from a raccoon dog, a dog indigenous to Asia that The Humane Society claims are skinned alive for the coats, hence the uproar.

As of today, the $265 coat was still a "featured" item on the Rocawear website. Late last year, a similar investigation found that raccoon dog fur was being used in a coat in rap mogul P. Diddy's "Sean John" collection; that item was removed from stores within a few days.

Reps for Jay-Z and Rocawear could not immediately be reached for comment. The Humane Society said that it informed the company of the issue a week ago, but that they've taken no action ".......

technodoll
January 16th, 2007, 08:14 PM
Stop arguing over what company or organization said what.........speak from the heart...speak for the animals!!!!!

Amen to that :angel:

today i passed over a great sweater at DEX, it was 70% off but had a fur collar, i read the tag and there was NO mention of the "trimming" but the label said "made in china" so you can bet i passed on that faster than a piece off rotten meat :yuck: :sad:

Golden Girls
January 18th, 2007, 09:19 AM
:thumbs up thank you TD for demonstating your passion for compassion. Just want to comment that it's not only the fur and fur trimming from China that use dogs and cats. It's way too early to feel sick again but wanted to add the only thing FAUX are the LABELS ... no matter what country.

coppperbelle
January 18th, 2007, 08:16 PM
Before Christmas I was looking for a coat for my daughter. She wanted a long down filled with a hood. I found one at TJ Max which was the right color, size and price. I checked the tag to find out what the collar was made of and it said racoon. I left the coat there and now I wonder if it was really dog or cat and not racoon. I told my daughter about it and she said she was glad I didn't buy it. We later found one without a fur collar.

technodoll
January 18th, 2007, 08:24 PM
see... every little bit counts, i know it does. Just received a spam email from Procter & Gamble advertising coupons and free samples for a bunch of products, now that i know they test their stuff on animals you bet i will never give them a red cent :evil:

happycats
January 23rd, 2007, 06:53 PM
Here's the latest!

Jan. 13, 2007, 10:01AM
Dog-fur coats make comeback at J.C. Penney

By DAVID KOENIG
Associated Press

DALLAS — J.C. Penney Co. removed some fur-trimmed coats from its racks around Christmas after animal-rights activists objected that the fur came from wild dogs in China.

Last week, the department-store company put the coats back on the racks — but only after directing employees to use marker pens to blot out the line on the label that identified the trim as raccoon fur.

The fur-collared leather coats were sold under the house brands St. John's Bay and a.n.a., and by this week they were marked down at a Penney's in Dallas from the original $349.99 to $74.99. About two dozen remained.

"We sold a lot of them during Christmas," said a saleswoman at a Penney store in North Carolina who spoke on condition of anonymity because she feared losing her job. "I hope people who bought those coats aren't animal lovers. But I guess if they're wearing fur, they're not."

By putting the coats back on the racks, Penney is charting a different course than rival Macy's, which last month pulled Sean John jackets after they turned out to contain the same fur. Macy's said it has a policy against selling products with dog fur.

Animal-rights groups are using the incident to pressure Penney to drop sales of all real fur, including fox. A few clothiers such as Polo Ralph Lauren and J. Crew have stopped using fur, and designers Kenneth Cole and Calvin Klein have promised to follow suit.

But Penney, with more than 1,000 stores catering to middle-income shoppers, says it has no plans to alter its fashion selections.

"We do sell a few fur-trim items. We will continue to do so," said Darcie Brossart, a spokeswoman for the Plano-based company.

Penney also downplays any link between Lassie and the animal whose fur is used on some of its garments. That animal is often called a raccoon dog because of its full coat and dark patches around the eyes.

"Asiatic raccoon is the species name," Brossart said. "It's on the Federal Trade Commission's list of fur that is legal to sell in the United States. It's not a dog."

Animal-rights advocates counter that although it looks like an oversized, fluffy raccoon and isn't kept as a pet, it is a canine breed — something Penney doesn't dispute while noting that foxes are canines, too.

"They are definitely a member of the dog family," said Kristin Leppert, manager of the anti-fur campaign at The Humane Society of the United States. "What's equally important is that they're getting killed by the millions in the most atrocious way."

Activists from Swiss Animal Protection posing as a documentary film crew say they went to China and photographed raccoon dogs and foxes being killed at large fur-harvesting operations.

The crew's disturbing video — posted on the Internet — shows animals clubbed or slammed on the ground. Some continue writhing, gasping and blinking as they are skinned alive.

Clothing made with raccoon dog fur has turned up at several retailers, according to Leppert of the Humane Society. She said she bought a St. John's Bay coat in Maryland and sent it for analysis at a German laboratory, which said the fur was raccoon dog instead of raccoon.

Penney sent samples to a lab near Dallas, which also confirmed the fur was raccoon dog, Brossart said. The coats were pulled off racks two days before Christmas.

Brossart said company lawyers determined it was legal to sell the coats as long as they didn't claim that the fur came from a particular species. A new order went to stores last week, and the word "raccoon" was blotted out from the labels.

Several Penney employees tipped off People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals about the label-altering, but Penney defended its actions.

"We always knew we were selling real fur," Brossart said, "but we didn't want any customers to think they were wearing raccoon."

heidiho
January 23rd, 2007, 06:59 PM
EW EW EW......Fur is just something i dont understand there are a million ways to keep warm,and how you could wear a dead animal,that are killed in such a horrible,torteous way is really a sick thing. shame on jc money hungry penneys

technodoll
January 23rd, 2007, 07:37 PM
another store to put on the Black List. the NERVE of these people!!! :mad: :yell:

heidiho
January 23rd, 2007, 08:02 PM
No s*** For sure blacklist...........So so sad.....

Maya
January 23rd, 2007, 08:32 PM
I just wanted to mention that down the under plumage of birds usually geese and ducks, used for filling in quilts, clothing, etc., I've heard how it's done and I just can't bear to think of all the birds having to go through what they do to give their feathers. I think we have enough synthetic substitutes to do without fur, leather, feathers, etc.

I didn't think much of it a couple of years ago but i've had more time recently to think about things like this. Also rescuing a few birds and knowing a few chickens made me more aware.

We can do a lot by just looking at an item and deciding not to buy it if it's made with animal parts.

Here is a little bit of info:http://www.fao.org/DOCREP/005/Y4359E/y4359e0c.htm Not graphic just educational. Actually WARNING do not go past the page I posted because it does get graphic. Sorry.