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Agression towards larger dogs

Daisy2943
December 22nd, 2006, 01:22 AM
Ive finally been put face to face with the truth about charlie. He is aggressive towards dogs his size and up and i don't understand it. Hes been around other dogs his whole life granted they are all small dogs and never been aggressive but anytime a dog his size comes near him its all teeth and growling. For example, every payday i get charlie a toy so i was at petsmart and we were looking at the toys seeing which one he liked (im a dog lover to a t) when some one walked by with a heeler mix charlie started lunging at him. Daisy was barking but not growling. I tried to get do the quick jerk of the leash and saying no to bring his attention to me but he wouldn't finally and i had to knell down and make him look at me. How can i stop this behavior even my poodle doesn't do this. My dogs go everywhere with me all three of them they go on walks everyday so i don't know if he needs to be socialized more or theres something else wrong. What am i doing wrong

Prin
December 22nd, 2006, 12:52 PM
Sorry, I don't have much advice (only had big doggies), but I think becoming more of a leader of this particular dog would help. He feels the need to protect/defend you from these big dogs, and maybe he wouldn't if he thought you were the confident leader.:shrug:

TMac
December 22nd, 2006, 01:06 PM
Sounds like Daisy needs more socialization with dogs she is unfamiliar with. How old is she, by the way?

Do you tense up on the leash when you see other dogs you think she might growl at? That could be part of it, too. A natural reaction, but something to be aware of all the same.

Getting her to watch you instead of the other dog is a good idea. You may want to make her do a few obedience moves in a row while the other dogs are passing by (e.g. down, stand, down, sit, etc etc). That would keep her focused too.

Daisy2943
December 23rd, 2006, 06:22 AM
Daisy is 2 years old. She barks when charlie goes in his little attack mode. (hes a year old). I didn't tense up the leash i didn't even see teh dog until he lunged at it

BMDLuver
December 23rd, 2006, 07:01 AM
Just to clarify..... Charlie is who you are having difficulties with, correct? Charlie is only a year old so he's just in his teen years so to speak. From this time forward he will start to assert himself more. He needs to learn that this behaviour is completely unacceptable. At a year old, it's time to nip this in the bud or you'll have a dog like this for the rest of it's life. You have to demonstrate to him what is acceptable behaviour in your actions when he does not behave appropriately. It might be a good idea to work with a doggie daycare that has trainers. Charlie can be exposed to a lot more socialisation in a controlled environment that way. What breed is Charlie btw?

TMac
December 23rd, 2006, 03:51 PM
oops - sorry Daisy2943...I meant to say "charlie", not Daisy. Anyways, I agree with BMD...you'll need to nip it in the bud and doggie daycare will allow for more socialization.

Daisy2943
December 24th, 2006, 06:58 AM
Charlie is a cocker spaniel. Can a bad expierence make this behavior occur? When he was a puppy a large bernese mountain dog attacked him.

BMDLuver
December 24th, 2006, 08:44 AM
Define attacked... if you mean lunged and growled, that's adult dog discipline to a puppy. If you mean ripped him or bit him to blood, that's an attack.

Either way, it's a cocker and they have attitude which gets out of hand around this age. He needs direction, training and socialisation.

dogcatharmony
December 24th, 2006, 11:05 AM
hi daisy, I also had a similiar problem with my dog. She was attacked by a golden retriever ( bit her in the rear, did damage to her privates) and this happened when she was just over a year old. She became very defensive when a larger dog approached her, to the point of showing big teeth, hair standing on end and ears back. I had to bring her back to obediance to re socialize her. We started off with both dogs on a leash, and I would put Zoe in a sit, my instructor said to never put her in a down positions when another dog approached because she could become fearful agressive. We let the other dog approach slowly and if Zoe began to growl or show agression she was corrected with a stern "no" and the other dog would sit until Zoe quieted, then start approach again. It took many sessions, and alot of patience and of course more work than I have stated here....but I just wanted to let you know that you can correct the behavior and the sooner the better. Good luck!!

Daisy2943
December 24th, 2006, 08:49 PM
The bernese mountain dog rolled him. He was being friendly to it and after the other dog rolled him he started yelping. I'm hoping when i take him with me to west virginia tommorow hell do better. My grandma has tons of dogs to many to count so im sure i can work with him a little while im there.

TMac
December 26th, 2006, 01:05 PM
Charlie is a cocker spaniel. Can a bad expierence make this behavior occur? When he was a puppy a large bernese mountain dog attacked him.

Absolutely. Especially since puppies have several fear stages - it only takes one frightening experience like that to make him fear aggressive in future. Especially if Charlie might have been a under-confident puppy to begin with.

Again, please do seek some training for him and socialization so that he can improve. Otherwise I would worry he would continue to rely on the fear aggressive response he is using now because in his mind it is 'working'.

mummummum
December 26th, 2006, 01:27 PM
This is something I unfortunately am all too familiar with...
Small suggestion ~ take only Charlie with you into situations such as Petsmart where you intend to encounter other dogs. In this way your attention is focused soley on him and you don't need to mind Daisy's behaviour or safety and neither does Charlie.

TeriM
December 26th, 2006, 03:20 PM
I also know this situation. My older lab is very choosy with the dogs she likes and can be leash aggressive. Our situation is manageable but a real pain in the butt. I really wished I had worked hard on the situation when it first appeared so I highly recommend working with a trainer on the issue.

Odieandmaggiesd
December 29th, 2006, 10:17 AM
I think the taking Charlie out alone might be a good thing for you...I know when I take Odie and MAggie out together she wants to eat any other dog that looks at either one of them...but when it's just her shejust watches them...she gives them the evil eye and unless they were to confront her she'll kinda stand down...Of course we're working on that...but we got her three years old...it's alot of work to change that sort of behavior in an older dog....so you better work on that now...

My sister has a cocker as well...he just hates all other dogs, big or small...they've tried all sorts of things and it's just not working...he's 6and was a rescue...

Joey.E.CockersMommy
January 1st, 2007, 10:21 AM
I have the same problem with Joey - hes a cocker too - when we got him he was six - and his former owner told us he was okay with female dogs - but didnt like male dogs - he came from a house with 8 other dogs. Now he is the only dog. If Joey sees another dog that is same size or bigger then him he automatically starts barking and lunging on the leash - but he doesnt growl. He is socialised with a few dogs - but only after meeting them at least a few times on the leash - then they are okay off leash - but Joey is only tolerant and doesnt want to play. Right now Joey can have contact with a bigger doggy for about 3 seconds - then he goes into instant fight mode.

Sometimes I think its my fault too cause I keep trying different things to make it better but nothing seems to work. The best I can get so far is to have Joey walk by another dog at a close distance without lunging at the other dog.