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Female marking territory??!

wAggie
March 4th, 2004, 01:47 AM
hawow... another Q for the crew....

first time, I could believe it when my bf tried telling me what happened but the other day I saw it for my own eyes.

It was a typical afternoon: I come home, let the "kids" out, clean poop from yard... relaxing & easy-going along w the usual pets & attention giving... watching them wrestle-play.

so Timmy (the bf) comes home after work & as usual, the dogs start barking because they hear him opening the front door... they're wagging tail at the door when it opens...

so Timmy goes about his hellos & pets to the doggies when all of the sudden -- Timmy's still petting Honey (THE ALPHA DOG) when she squats down and PEES as he's petting her on the head.

he ALways pets her on the head, she LOVES IT. he does it agressively and she slants her head upwards so that his hand slides down as he pets her head eagerly... he's forever doing it. when he stops, she's still in the position waiting for him to continue, if he doesn't continue petting her head then she starts nudging him everywhere...

WHAT IS GOING ON??!

she pees only a little bit. and this was about 40min after being outside 45min (where YES, she's had her pee & poo)

:confused: :confused:

is this year old spayed pointer marking her territory??!

amaruq
March 4th, 2004, 08:23 AM
Is it possible he may have been around another dog or stepped in urine. She may have felt that smelling that she wanted her own brand on him.

My dogs love their bums to be rubbed like right on top and the harder the better. One does yoga I swear when it happens lol!

wAggie
March 4th, 2004, 08:44 AM
hmm... but she doesn't pee ON him... tho it *might* be the case..

female can really do this?


or this isn't even a gender issue but an Alpha way?

Lucky Rescue
March 4th, 2004, 09:52 AM
This most definitely sounds like submissive, or excitement urination and has nothing to do with housetraining.

Tell your b/f to greet her in a low key way - to even ignore her for a few minutes after he comes in - and to squat down to pet her.

Petting her under the chin, on the neck and chest would be much better than on top of the head.

Some dogs just cannot handle being greeted enthusiastically this way.

Luba
March 4th, 2004, 10:59 AM
This started after she was spayed correct?

Maybe she just can't hold it when she gets excited now??

amaruq
March 4th, 2004, 03:42 PM
Could be too much excitement. Tellb/f to ignore her when he comes in..let him settle down (b/f) and then give the girl a pet and see how it goes...like sort of an experiment? Don't let her (dog) get too excited?

Missy
March 4th, 2004, 04:28 PM
Yes, it definitely sounds like excitement urination to me. This used to happen all the time with my puppy whenever I would make a big fuss about seeing her when I came home and she would pee on the floor. Once I started to ignore her and not get her over-excited to see me she stopped doing it.

wAggie
March 4th, 2004, 05:52 PM
yes... Honey does get VERY, very excited when Timmy comes home....

he's going to try toning it down.


Luba, first time was last week, only a little bit. and the second time was a bit more pee and this happened 2 days ago. so yes, definitely after spaying... I sure hope it's going nothing to do about that though!!


we'll see how it goes, thanx everyone!!

:D :D

Lucky Rescue
March 5th, 2004, 02:11 PM
Spay incontinence is always possible, though usually seen in older dogs.

Does she leak urine at any other time - for example, when sleeping?

wAggie
March 5th, 2004, 09:49 PM
well, first off, if she'd leak, would she still squat like she did when greeting him...?

but over all, no she hasn't leaked... I do remember my kittens spray or something when they were younger, so I definitely would recognize another event such as that...

:)

Lucky Rescue
March 5th, 2004, 10:24 PM
well, first off, if she'd leak, would she still squat like she did when greeting him...?

No - it would just leak out, without her even being concious of it, like while she was sleeping or just lying around.

If she is squatting during the greetings, then it's definitely submissive or excitement thing.

Luba
March 5th, 2004, 10:25 PM
Sounds more like submissive urination then ...correct me if I'm wrong LR or anyone else

http://www.usask.ca/wcvm/herdmed/applied-ethology/behaviourproblems/suburine.html

*If your dog urinates out of excitement when you
return home and greet it, or if unfamiliars greet
it, try to downplay the greeting by staying calm
and saying hello or even ignoring it for the first
few minutes until it calms down. Ask your friends
to do this as well.

marrielle
March 6th, 2004, 06:23 PM
It seems like submissive urination to me. My BC had this problem especially as a younger dog. What helped her was actually taking a couple of minutes when I would come home and simply saying hello verbally and that's it. After a while I could then get down to eye level with her and scratch under her chin. Patting the top of the head can be seen in some canines as a dominant gesture so that I didn't and still don't do as it bothers her. She's got a high flight response so she's always been very submissive and has trained up well with a light, easy going and up attitude.

wAggie
March 7th, 2004, 09:48 AM
wow... good website, thanx ladies for the info...

we're going to work on calming this household down & trying to have some relax time.

prior to all of this, the noise level of the house was always "on"... I'm SO happy w the change

:)