March 2nd, 2004, 09:05 AM
Here is a link from another pet site.
It's about the Proheart injections.
Please read the stories of the deceased and survivours of this injection.
Sooooo very sad.
I'll stick to my Heartgard Plus.
March 2nd, 2004, 10:13 AM
OMG so why do they still have the product around? I seen where they said its a thick mixture and need to give it in a large needle:mad:
What was scary was the percentages of dogs with reactions and the different reaction Thats disgusting!
March 2nd, 2004, 11:21 AM
To be honest,I have no clue.
I think it should not be used.
Those poor beautiful dogs.It just breaks my heart.:(
March 2nd, 2004, 12:14 PM
I've heard bad things about it too.
Bless my vet's heart. Last year he told me he wasn't using or recommending it because he didn't think it had been tested rigorously enough.
I love my vet. :)
HeartGard has been proven extremely safe. And giving it once a month isn't a big deal...I just give it on the first of the month so it's easier to remember.
March 2nd, 2004, 12:45 PM
Yeah my guys get the Heartgard once a month from May to Oct.
My vet is the same way.He doesn't use the Proheart at all.
March 2nd, 2004, 12:53 PM
Here we do May-Dec, they get blood tested every spring.
Dutch came with HW, so for the first year after going through the treatment he was on them for 12 months straight.
I even remember back when there wasn't a monthly pill available, you had to give it daily. Now THAT was a pain!
March 2nd, 2004, 12:57 PM
Awwwww poor Dutch.
Oh please don't make me think way back when....I can't remember what I did 4 days ago....LOL
March 2nd, 2004, 02:57 PM
LOL, me neither, hardly!
Dutch is fine (though the treatment is pretty brutal.) We do think he has reduced lung functioning though...he seems to tire rather easily, but he has lots of heart and will play & run till he's exhausted so I make him stop before he's totally wrung out.
His heart checks out OK; to find out if he's got any heart damage for sure he'd need to visit a cardiologist. Since he doesn't have any other signs of a bad ticker or poor circulation, I don't see the need to do that.
OK I know this is OT - but anyone reading this please realise how important HW meds are! Not at all expensive compared to the cost of treatment which is downright scary. :eek:
March 3rd, 2004, 09:25 PM
that's right!!! I missed it last year for Chocolate...
I had him on Advantage the year back. anything wrong with that? I thought it was the best on the market...
(going to write in da calendar the vet apt for heartworm preventative effective next month!!!)
March 4th, 2004, 08:05 AM
Well I personally haven't heard anything bad about the Advantage.
I have always used the Heartgard Plus.OK,not me personally.LOL.
Just make sure Chocolate has the blood test done first before he is put on the HW preventative.:D
Not sure about your vet wAggie,but ours does the test in May.
Yukon and Tron are on it from May to Oct.
March 4th, 2004, 08:30 AM
I was letting the bf know of upcoming expenses...
I think Advantage for Chocolate had been $160
we're planning an apt in mid-April so that we can get test results by May 1st & start them there.
it's too bad my vet doesn't send out or call reminding me about this like dentists for checkups & cleaning!!... I didn't remember til mid-JULY!
March 4th, 2004, 08:46 AM
Your vet dosen't?
My vet sends me reminders for everything.......Guess he knows I have a bad memory.....:D
March 4th, 2004, 08:55 AM
not for heartworm... I got one for rabies tho
March 4th, 2004, 10:02 AM
Here we go again,tears flowing:(
How can they possibly still have this drug on the market?
It seems to me a classaction suit is warranted,it would not bring those wonderful dogs back,but at least somone would be punished.
This thing with tumors after an injection in the back of the neck,I've heard of before.My vet gives all shots in the leg nowadays,says back of the neck can cause problems.
March 4th, 2004, 10:05 AM
I have a stupid question??? Is the heart damage permanently after the worms? Or do the holes fill up again? I heard they (worms ) float around in the blood EWWWW!
I see that model at the vets with the heart with worms and I just gross out. It was bad enough when I had to pull worms out of Motzi's butt :P
I would imagine that the heart worm medicine kills intestinal worms too?
I thought of another question.....do you ever really get rid of the worms? Or can they come back?
March 4th, 2004, 10:13 AM
I know how you feel chico,I had tears too.
Well I have never had a dog test positive for HW.But I have heard of dogs surviving after being HW positive.
Carina's Dutch had it....I'm sure she can tell you.:)
March 4th, 2004, 05:12 PM
If the HWs are very bad, ie large & plentiful - they take several years to grow large enough to be life threatening, heart damage can result. When they're killed with the Ivermectin, they break up into pieces in the bloodstream. This is why dogs being treated must be kept quiet for a while, because they can get a fatal blood clot, but this is quite rare as long as the owner is careful. And if you've paid the bill for treatment :eek: you WILL be careful! It's expensive. I paid about $800 USD, I've heard of vets charging much more, and some less.
The treatment kills the worms totally. But any dog can get re-infested by mosquitos, which is why dogs really should be on HW preventative unless you live in the North Pole where there aren't any skeeters! :)
Dutch's heart is probably OK, but the dead worm bits get carried into the lungs. So some little bronchial thingies (sorry, I'm tired) can get plugged up for life, and the dog gets less oxygen. I guess in the long run this isn't good for the heart either, that's why I somewhat restrict his exercise! He gets lots, but I don't let him play or run to exhaustion.
Dogs with a mild infestation usually recover 100%. Dutch's was "moderate" according to the vet.
Here's a good link:
A friend had a Great Dane who had mild HW when she adopted him. "Thunder" lived to be 12 years old which is amazing for a Dane!