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how about food-switch updates?

technodoll
October 18th, 2006, 08:10 PM
would be nice to hear from those who have recently switched foods in the past month or so, either from one kibble to another, or moved to raw, or homecooked, or whatever! how are the dogs doing, what positive changes have you noticed, any negatives? are you satisfied with your choices so far? etc... :)

mafiaprincess
October 18th, 2006, 08:16 PM
In having 2 high protein foods in her diet the poop is nicer than ever... but now we have scratching.... I may cry cause I'm not sure I'll ever be happy with dog food again..

H.P.
October 18th, 2006, 08:20 PM
We have switched from Pedigree Puppy, to Canidae. We switched a little too quickly, and had some pretty loose stool for a few days, but now everything is great. Sydney loves it. I got Jo some samples of the Felidae, she wants nothing to do with it. Special Kitty Gourmet is the only thing she will touch. I know it is not the best quality, but she is happy and healthy and she likes it.:shrug:

erykah1310
October 18th, 2006, 09:04 PM
Sorry TD, your my mentor and all and I forgot to email you back bout how things are going.

Well........... Things are going great!!!!!
Kita is NUTS for her chicken, and I think im doing something right cause her poop is normal, she didnt have any side effects or "detox" so far :fingerscr She is eating her food slowly and chewing well ( she was crazy supervised the first few meals:o )

Puppy likes the idea of raw food, he was gulping a bit for the first two meals but has slowed down now. He had one day of explosive diarrhea but that was it. He has no interest in any kibble like food now :shrug: ( treats and so on)

Meik, things were a bit rougher at first. He took his chicken and buried it:shrug: the next meal he ate fine but vomited shortly there after ( and then we all know what he did after that :yuck: ) the same day he had runny poop as well.

However last nites dinner he enjoyed and have not seen any vomit or runs :pray: Maybe he is adjusting better now.

The cats really took a liking to Kitas chicken concoction I made the other night so i want to do some research on raw feeding cats too.

Im amazed by how cheap it actually is to feed them raw :eek: compared to feeding them comercial pet food. I went nuts with sales and their freezer is looking good!

Got some "guts" ( lungs, heart, liver ect..) from a recently slaughtered bull its waiting in the freezer a few days ( to be safe) and then we will see how the dogs handle beef.
Also have some moose and deer for them.
Perfect time of year to start this i have to say ( hunting and butchering)
I am yet to talk with the trapper in town about some of his meat. I know he did supply one guy in town with beavers for his dog ... for free!:eek:

Prin
October 18th, 2006, 09:07 PM
I'm still undecided about my doggies' food.:shrug: :o

technodoll
October 18th, 2006, 09:14 PM
Also have some moose and deer for them.
Perfect time of year to start this i have to say ( hunting and butchering)
I am yet to talk with the trapper in town about some of his meat. I know he did supply one guy in town with beavers for his dog ... for free!

oh girl, you are SO lucky! and i'm very happy that things are going well for your crew! :highfive:

dakotah's totally crazy for the Merricks Puppy Plate (dry), it's very unusual for him to still like a food after a couple of meals.. he dances for the stuff! am mixing with the EVO RM though... which he doesn't like very much. tough noogies! his poop is ok after a kibble meal but oh, the toxic farts we could do without... sigh. needless to say, after raw meals there is NO gas and very small hard poops. :shrug:

dtbmnec
October 18th, 2006, 11:37 PM
Well the boys are on a mix still....part RAW and part tuna/canned food....

Its going well...I'm having trouble keeping enough food out for them...they are eating me out of house and home with this RAW thing...

Pawz is allergic to Chicken and Leo seems to be allergic to beef (at least the stuff from the grocery store anyway)....trying to find food that neither of them are allergic to from the grocery store has proven a bit of a challenge....trying to find organs is ALSO a pain....I have to go find a butcher and/or go visit the Farmer's Market that is barely ever open....lol

Megan

technodoll
October 18th, 2006, 11:49 PM
megan... you gonna have some super-healthy kitties on your hand very soon, LOL! does this help? http://lepusreg.tripod.com/NRS.html just click on "ontario" on the left-hand side :)

Lissa
October 19th, 2006, 12:31 AM
Well I don't really qualify since I have been trying to switching Minnow over to better food for over 2 years now:rolleyes:...she is starting to eat some Blue Buffalo instead of Royal Canin:shrug: She's turned her nose up and virtually everything else (much to the happiness of the local "strays")

I wonder if I puree BARF or homecooked into a soup she will eat it? She's already turned her nose up at both but I never thought of blending it all together:shrug: I just don't know what to do with the devil-Siam anymore!

I am glad to hear that it seems to be going okay with some of you!:thumbs up

MP - Cider's scratching again? Great to hear about the poops though:highfive:

And Prin, why are you undecided? Jemma and Boo not doing well either?

mafiaprincess
October 19th, 2006, 12:45 AM
Scratching her ears off her head and licking the heiny like there's no tomorrow... I didn't wanna thread jack I made one called 'here we go again' to deal with what I should be doing now..

nansel
October 19th, 2006, 01:20 AM
I haven't posted yet about switching my Maggie's food, but I read lots of threads on this board, and decided to try her on something better. She is allergic to corn, and was being fed Nature's Recipe lamb and rice from PetsMart before we got her, but she didn't seem to like it much when we tried it.

We switched her to Canidae, and she goes nuts for it. Heck, when I brought home the first bag and opened it, even the cat jumped up and took a kibble from me! Maggie didn't have any major intestinal issues. Well, the first couple of days, but that may have been the turkey neck I gave her at Thanksgiving - she loved it, but it might have not been a good idea to give it to her when she was just starting to switch foods...my bad :o Her poops now are firm and smaller, and she's stopped the scratching she was doing. Yay!

I'd like to thank all of the dog foodies on this site for all the great info. You guys rock!:thumbs up

dtbmnec
October 19th, 2006, 02:34 AM
megan... you gonna have some super-healthy kitties on your hand very soon, LOL! does this help? http://lepusreg.tripod.com/NRS.html just click on "ontario" on the left-hand side :)

*grumbles* I hope so....

and ummm yeah....all they seem to sell is chicken...or beef...ack...:sad: I"ll have to call them and get more details...

Thanky thanky

Megan

Scott_B
October 19th, 2006, 05:51 AM
Well Rosco is doing great on the Canidae Lamb meal & Rice formula. So I've decided to try somthing out and feed him Chicken :eek:. I assumed it was the chicken in the original Canidae formula that caused his scratching, but, Knock on wood, its been 3 days now of him getting a raw chicken neck with each meal and he hasnt scratched at all. :thumbs up If this keeps up for a few weeks, after the Canidea lamb meal is done I'll be going back to raw! Oh and his poo's have been great as well!

The cats absolutly love Evo! EVERY day at meal time, they all come running, crying at their dish for food. Havent had them do that in a while!

les
October 19th, 2006, 09:16 AM
Mine have been on RAW for a few weeks now and they have never been better!! Both are totally doing awesome on it - good poops (with the occasional runny-ish one when we try a new meat), way better energy level (not that crazy kibble sugar high), shedding less, not licking or scratching at all, and sensitve ear infection doggie has clean ears! WOOHOOO!!!

Best of all .. I've never seen them sooo happy to eat! With kibble I had to mix in various treats just to get them to look in the bowl ... now the food IS the treat! So my skinny male is keeping weight on and my female actually looks like she's losing a few pounds. (which is okay - she could stand to lose about 5 lbs ;))

They just look really good with shiny coats like never before! Yes, I'm going to be the newest RAW promoter ;)

I went to Maple Lodge Farms Factory Outlet in Brampton last week and got a ton of chicken. (More then I realized til we got home!!! LOL) I got chicken backs for 0.50 lb, improper cuts for 1.00 lb, whole mature chicken for 1.00 lb, legs with back attached for 1.00 lb and chicken livers for 0.45 lb!! All by the case, so needless to say I have a full freezer and can't really get much other meat in bulk until I either go through some of this or get another freezer!

So my suggestion to everybody is to try RAW because it's so great. It's easy, it's the same as or less money then a high quality kibble, you know what you're feeding and it's so much fun! I used to be afraid to try it and I am so glad I finally decided too ... I think my dogs are pretty glad about it too!! :thumbs up

SuperWanda
October 19th, 2006, 10:06 AM
I switched from Eukanuba to Solid Gold for a short time and now to Orijen (higher protein, grainless kibble) for at least a month.

Both dogs really love this food.

One has a very sensitive tummy and she has had no stomach upset.

The other has unknown allergies and also seems to be doing well :fingerscr

I don't think they poop less though - I have heard that higher protein = less poop.

technodoll
October 19th, 2006, 10:23 AM
so nice to hear about all the positive, happy changes! congrats to everyone! and for those still on the see-saw, don't give up - somewhere, a diet that is perfect for your furkid is lurking... just have to find it :)

Smiley14
October 19th, 2006, 11:51 PM
Hey TD! Petey got switched to Canidae about a month ago I believe it was and after a first few gassy days, he is doing GREAT! Maintaining his weight still and his fur is noticeably softer now. His coat doesn't seem shiner to me, but maybe it's just been gradual, and I haven't noticed.
But we started another training class last Saturday (just redoing the Advanced class as a refresher course since he loves them so much!). We walked into the ring, and my trainer hadn't seen him in a few months and was SHOCKED! She couldn't stop going on and on about how good he looked! I was so proud. :)

On a side note, I finally got his new leather collar and leash in the mail today!!! The one I ordered about two months ago off a link someone here provided for leather creations, lol! I'm still at work at the moment, but am itching to get home to try it on him! :) Yay!

Steph

SarahLynn123
October 21st, 2006, 04:59 PM
All three dogs have been on raw for quite a few months now and they are all doing awesome!

Beef doesn't agree with the girls so it's chicken with fruit and veggies.

I get the chicken and bone pre-ground from the pet store for $30.00 for 40lbs. It's all frozen in 5lb packages. Very convenient! I also throw in fruit and veggies that come in patties for every meal, and green tripe on those special occasions!

All the dogs are eating regularily now, so Im happy too!

Sarah

Lise
October 21st, 2006, 05:20 PM
My guys all switched to raw a few months ago,doing fantastic they love it.I wish I'd switched a long time ago.

technodoll
October 21st, 2006, 05:40 PM
i had no idea we had so many raw-feeders on this forum :eek:

wow!! that is awesome :highfive:

glad to hear all the good news, too :thumbs up

erykah1310
October 21st, 2006, 05:52 PM
way better energy level (not that crazy kibble sugar high), shedding less,
Best of all .. I've never seen them sooo happy to eat!

now the food IS the treat!

They just look really good with shiny coats like never before! Yes, I'm going to be the newest RAW promoter ;)

So my suggestion to everybody is to try RAW because it's so great. It's easy, it's the same as or less money then a high quality kibble, you know what you're feeding and it's so much fun! I used to be afraid to try it and I am so glad I finally decided too ... I think my dogs are pretty glad about it too!! :thumbs up


I had to do this to DITTO these parts!!! Especially that it is kinda fun!!!! Everyday is like a new adventure of whats gonna happen at dinner time:D
And I feel so much better bout it too!:thumbs up I know EXACTLY what they are eating and there is no UNPRONOUNCABLE ingredients, that i dont understand.

~michelle~
October 21st, 2006, 07:18 PM
hmmmmmm...... well lets see the dogs are on innova and the cats are on innova..... everyone is good and happy *there is an issue with braxton, but thats a nonfood related deal* but maggie came here a month ago, and she was vomitting garbage (literally) and had dandruffy gross skin and fur.... now she looks sleek like a panther!!! shiny and smooth, shes also up to an appropriate weight, she was only a few pounds when i found her and moe is as soft of a ball of cotton!!!!!!soooooo smoooth :) Logan has stopped shedding as much (it was to the point i was vacuuming everyday and there was sooo much fur it was clogging my vacuum cleaner.......
I :love: Innova

Skryker
October 21st, 2006, 08:17 PM
Canidae and Felidae are going very well here. The cat had no digestive troubles at all, and the dogs were a little gassy for a couple of days.

The doggy dandruff has cleared up (still don't know where that came from all of a sudden!) and poop is great. however, canned tuna mixed in with Canidae reeks!!!!!!!:yuck: The dogs loved it but we didn't care for the smell.

MERI
October 21st, 2006, 08:24 PM
After Solid Gold changed formula, we changed food:)
Bilbo is on DVP venison and today I started to add EVO red meat to it.
His poop is nicer than ever, but I'm concerned about citric acid in DVP, so still searching for another option. He had gas first two weeks on DVP. Now it's better, but sometimes he eats grass or leaves and then vomits (not very often). We tried Merric, he loved it, but scratched himself more.

ShaggyRudy
October 21st, 2006, 09:14 PM
Hi T.Doll,
Well - my latest story about switching food is on the current thread called "Is he allergic?? Switching yet AGAIN... "
So far we're ok on Pinnacle - but I'm still looking for suggestions.

I just hate having to experiment so much and put my pup through all of this :(

technodoll
October 21st, 2006, 11:00 PM
I just hate having to experiment so much and put my pup through all of this

yeah, i know what you mean... since every dog is different and there are sooo many diet choices out there... it seems to be a current theme nowadays... a fact of "modern life"? :shrug:

not to push the raw diet but... it seems that it's the one choice that, if dogs & cats accept it willingly, seems to cut the running in circles down to a bare minimum :thumbs up

Goldens4Ever
October 23rd, 2006, 08:27 PM
Yes, we also changed our girls foods when Solid Gold changed their formulas. They both have been on the Timberwolf Organics Lamb, Barley, & Apple formula for 6 days now; so far so good. I keep checking their ears and paws regularly for signs of an allergic reaction, but everything is going well. I do not suspect that they will have any adverse reactions since the food they were on previously with Solid Gold was also a Lamb & Barley formula. Their stools are about the same, just darker in color.

But, one thing I do not like about TO's foods is their packaging. Anyone else think that the material of the bags is really, really thin? I am comparing it to Solid Gold, Innova, or Evolve's packaging, for instance, as theirs are a real thick, heavy-duty, foil bag; I like that. Plus, those 3 brands vacuume pack their bags, and TO does not. If they tried, I think the bags would evaporate or something because they're so thin!

ByronsMum
October 23rd, 2006, 09:03 PM
Well, I have to admit it at some point.... :o We switched Byron to Canidae All Life Stages.... After our brief stint at raw, we decided that, although we knew the benefits of such a diet, we also realized the benefits of a high quality dry food. And to be honest, we found that it upset Byron's tummy a lot less. On the Canidae, his coat has become super shiny and he is at an ideal weight for his age! We have just started to sloooowly add fish oil to his meal, since he suffers from dry skin. But still, every once in a while, we will add a bit of raw ground beef, or some chicken, anything we have at hand really, to his dry.

Sorry Techno...I know you provided a TON of support and advice when we switched Byron to raw....:o Just wanted you to know that we really appreciated it!!

meb999
October 23rd, 2006, 09:20 PM
:o update? It's all bad. Buster's poops are outta control....I think I'll go start a new thread about it :o

~michelle~
October 23rd, 2006, 10:41 PM
sorry to hear that meb999 :grouphug:

technodoll
October 23rd, 2006, 10:48 PM
marie-eve, don't give up... been there & done that too (needed a big shovel to pick up the mess 4 times per day :yuck: )... but things eventually DID get better :pawprint:

byronsmom, i'm happy you found a food your boy is doing well on! :highfive: and the knowledge is not lost, you may want to give it another go someday down the road. keep reading, keep investigating, keep doing what you do (adding some raw is better than adding none!) and in the meantime, we're all here to give a supporting shoulder no matter the food choice, ok? :grouphug:

ByronsMum
October 24th, 2006, 07:26 AM
Thanks techno...you da woman! :D

Marie-Eve, sorry to hear about Buster. Hope things get better for you! :)

vfrohloff
October 24th, 2006, 09:18 AM
Well, I started them on the Canidae Lamb and Rice 3 days ago, and so far so good. Nice solid poops, and they go crazy for the taste. Sophie has always been a bit of a picky eater but now she doesn't miss a meal. The only thing I find is that the kibble is really small and Benny was choking on it a bit. He's a gulper but had to chew a bit with the larger kibble he was on before. I find if I wet it a little he doesn't choke as much, and the smaller kibbles move around the dish more if they're wet so he can't eat it as fast.

Scott_B
October 24th, 2006, 03:22 PM
Well I'm making the switch back to raw! :thumbs up

I still have about a weeks worth in the deep freeze, but I placed my order with my supplier, so that should be ready by the end of the week. gonna take it a bit slower this time, other then bombarding him with a huge variety all at once. Although hes doing great on the Canidea Lamb Meal & rice, I want whats best for him. :cool:

technodoll
October 24th, 2006, 03:32 PM
scott, with some doggies... must.go.slow. :)

leslie aka (LES) has some very good feedback on her experience when switching her doggies over... one was super-easy, the other a tad more challenging, but both are doing well now :thumbs up

Scott_B
October 24th, 2006, 03:40 PM
For sure. Well last time he was scratching, we were trying to figure that out, and it was just so overwelming. This time, we take our time. :thumbs up

scott, with some doggies... must.go.slow. :)

leslie aka (LES) has some very good feedback on her experience when switching her doggies over... one was super-easy, the other a tad more challenging, but both are doing well now :thumbs up

dtbmnec
October 24th, 2006, 03:58 PM
I have just come to the conclusion that we haven't had stinky poop in quite a while....I'm so happy!!

My only issue is that I'm still not sure if they're eating enough...Bah.

They keep meowing for food but that could still be total and utter greediness on their part....lol

That and I've discovered that it really really sucks not being able to find meat that they can eat (since one is allergic to chicken and the other to beef)...it means the raw diet is going to be more expensive than I thought...I haven't found any meat for under 1.99/lb and even then its usually the beef/chicken that is that low...everything else is at least 2.99/lb.

Megan

meb999
October 25th, 2006, 03:56 PM
:fingerscr I returned the EVO, and bought some DVP Venison and rice :fingerscr , if he can digest it, then I'll mix it with some EVO RM to up the protein a bit. I think (I hope) the problem was chicken :fingerscr :fingerscr

barkley21
October 26th, 2006, 06:26 PM
We switched our 6 month old pup from kibble to raw a little over a month ago now and the change has been incredible. Before, when he was on kibble, he had a bout of colitis, consistently loose stools, his ears were always waxy and smelly, he had a UTI with crystals in his urine, and he was very itchy all over. It's not like we were even feeding him bad quality kibble! We tried Foundations by Pet Curean, DVP Duck and Potato, and Solid Gold Wolf King (old formula). Since the switch to raw, he has not had even so much as one loose stool, no colitis, I haven't had to clean his ears even once because they are spotless, he no longer itches and bites at his paws/back, and the best part is...we took him in to the vet last week to see how things have improved and the urine sample came back with absolutely no crystals in it! He didn't even have any medication for the crystals. They just went away on their own as a result of the switch to raw. We were floored at what a dietary change can do in such a short amount of time. Needless to say, we couldn't be happier. :thumbs up

Viola and Barkley

meb999
October 26th, 2006, 08:37 PM
Good for you Barkley! I'm glad RAW is working out so well for you :thumbs up

6 month old pup, heh? No chance we'll be seeing pics of this puppy in the near futur? :fingerscr

technodoll
October 26th, 2006, 11:21 PM
i second that that motion... photos pleeease! :o

and the positive "moving to raw diet" experiences are a joy to read, thanks for posting! a happy & healthy pet is a joy that must be shared! :highfive:

barkley21
October 28th, 2006, 05:59 PM
Good for you Barkley! I'm glad RAW is working out so well for you :thumbs up

6 month old pup, heh? No chance we'll be seeing pics of this puppy in the near futur? :fingerscr

Hi Meb999 and Technodoll,
Here is a picture of my little raw-hound. The first one was just taken earlier today and the second picture is from when he was only about 6 weeks old.

http://img116.imageshack.us/img116/3954/sittingupht1.th.jpg (http://img116.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sittingupht1.jpg)

http://img126.imageshack.us/img126/8072/barkleyandfrog1vx6.png (http://imageshack.us)

meb999
October 28th, 2006, 06:22 PM
OMG!! The pic with the frog is just TOOO CUTE :cloud9:

technodoll
October 28th, 2006, 06:45 PM
what a precious, sweet, happy-looking pup! :cloud9:

erykah1310
October 28th, 2006, 10:10 PM
Well Techno, Meik is off the raw... May be conflicting with previous health problems he has. Im taking him off until i can get into the vet and have him rechecked ( needs a specialist) and then I want to work with them on helping ensure he gets the protien he needs.

The other 2 are still doing great, and there was NO problems with the beef

Is strange breath a normal side effect to raw?? not stinky bad breath but just "weird"

technodoll
October 28th, 2006, 11:39 PM
Well Techno, Meik is off the raw... May be conflicting with previous health problems he has. Im taking him off until i can get into the vet and have him rechecked ( needs a specialist) and then I want to work with them on helping ensure he gets the protien he needs.:grouphug:

awe poor Meik... what is his story?

The other 2 are still doing great, and there was NO problems with the beef.

Is strange breath a normal side effect to raw?? not stinky bad breath but just "weird"

glad to hear the two others are doing well :) And the "weird breath", is it persistent or only occasionally? i find that doggy breath here varies from odorless to super-funky for no apparent reason... hard to pinpoint cuz i feed them such a crazy, inconsistent diet... but most often, i find it's linked to a meal that was too big;, or i mixed a few ingredients that don't "marinate" well in the tummy! :eek: but on the whole, breath is nice and sweet.

Scott_B
October 29th, 2006, 07:09 AM
Well, we've been at the raw diet for 6 days now and all is still well :thumbs up The only thing odd I find is now that his poo schedule is messed up. Suppose its since its being digested differently, hes pooing less in volume which I expected, and in frequency. Like yesterday he had his am poo, then again around lunch, but didn't go again till this morning. I was a bit concerned but it wasn't that he needed to go and couldn't, he just didn't need to go. So, that will take some time to get used to the new schedule. But other then that, so far so good. :cool:

erykah1310
October 29th, 2006, 10:57 AM
Meik has Excersise Induced Collapse ( known as many other things, but the lo down is... he gets worked up, and faints)
He has been doing well up until a little while ago, it seems that his excersise time is getting shorter before he shows his signs of exhaustion.
After conversing with OG in another thread and reading through some of the wonderful links she gave me I decided to stop for now. I want to have him re-checked as well as checked for other disorders with almost the same symptoms. But either I have to travel to Guelph with him or wait a month or so for the specialist to come back up here.

x.l.r.8
November 14th, 2006, 02:04 PM
Ok, had some issues but I thought we had them sorted,now back to square one. Went from Iams (rescue fed) to Nutram to Canadie, was doign OK but never got excited about eating, was thinking of going raw but my wife has decided against it so I'll go with her decission as it's her kitchen, she has to look after him for the weekends while I work and she hates handling meat. So I tried a few samples and found Wellness super 5 (green pack) got him excited as did merricks (purple), i liked the wellness better and got him a bag, he was much better and actually got all jumpy when we got the food ready. We ran out on Thursday, the shop only had 1 bag left and it was out of date (I was away or I would have spent the extra dollar on evo, or another brand but my wife knows how I have become and was scared in case she chose Nutra or something) the owner or Global (another SG convert since our little discussion) know Riley and would have steered my wife in the right direction anyhow but we had 20lbs of Canadie in a container so left it. Basically he starves himself before he eats the canadie. Like Prin I'm no sucker so he starves, right now he's tucking into a bowl full after tring everything to get treats rather than eat so he was ignored, luckily I have spent some time on this board and know there is nothing wrong with the food so it's just trying to hold out for something better. I'm not going to raise a fussy eater so I'll wait him out. I'm back off to the pet store today to have get my 10% off wellness (an apology for not having what I wanted, and another think on what to feed, I don't mind giving him a break from Canadie for a while as he was never excited as he was on the wellness. So I think were going to become wellness super 5 users.

technodoll
November 14th, 2006, 02:07 PM
the green bag is the lamb formula? (sorry fuzzy memory)

yeah fussy eaters... big pests!! :frustrated:

Prin
November 14th, 2006, 02:13 PM
Wellness super5mix is good. A bit grainy, but it's got a good blend of meats in there. :shrug:

x.l.r.8
November 14th, 2006, 02:41 PM
I have a sample bag of EVO RM but Riley is a large breed and he's still in puppydom do I am a bit scarred that if he LOVES it I will end up feeding it and it's SO expensive, everytime I open the cupboard he sniffs the bag and he's excitable, i also think he will eat ANYTHING if it's new, but then he gets bored quickly (unless it's a bullwinkle) so even if I get something he loves in a few months he'll be wanting Canadie again. He tollerates instant swaps and funnily enough after the weekend I have noticed him scratching? not sure if this is because of the protein mix? He eats chicken in small cubes for training treats, also beef kidney. Lamb is in the wellness (I just checked) so that leaves Turkey? I'll see if it improves on the Wellness and take it from there.

x.l.r.8
November 21st, 2006, 04:43 PM
Quick update, 4 days on Wellness and BAM, saving a fortune on poop bags but thats it, he lost a lot of weight and I decided I needed to do something, I grabbed a bag of California Natural herring and sweet potato thinking dofferent protien and anything to get him away form eating the wellness, didnt touch it all day yesterday (I had some steak that we use for training so we just did a lot of training instead), this afternoon I decided that as he hasn't touched the california natural I'd go back to Canadie, 2 bowlfuls later he's a happy boy and is asleep in front of the fire. I wonder if he knows he was good on the Canadie and as the wellness gave him the squits he knew he would do better on Canadie, not conciously but knowing a different taste = feel bad.
I'll see how the poo thing goes tomorrow. Wellness is staying in the bag for the moment, however at least there was snow on the ground, it would be like putting toilet roll in the fridge before eating chilli....soothing.

Goldens4Ever
November 21st, 2006, 09:51 PM
Goldie & Aspen have been on TO Lamb for over a month now & are doing very well; however, their stool volume is firmer, but has NOT decreased in volume. It was my understanding that their stools would decrease on this food because their bodies would retain more of the food (nutrients), resulting in less stool. Goldie, who is 3-years-old is eating 3 cups per day &
Aspen who is 1.5-years-old is eating 4 cups per day. I think we may cut back their food by 1/2 a cup or so during the cold, winter months to avoid weight gain, as they may not be quite as active. I just don't understand why they would still be having the same amount of stool on TO as SG.

Prin
November 22nd, 2006, 02:04 PM
Goldens4ever, what did you switch from? It can take a while for the stool to shrink up.:shrug:

Goldens4Ever
November 22nd, 2006, 05:08 PM
Prin-

Switched them from SG Lamb & Barley to TO Lamb & Barley; same meat and grain.

Prin
November 22nd, 2006, 05:42 PM
Yeah, the poopies won't get much smaller then....:o If you were going from a food with a ton of fillers to one without, then yes, the poopies get dramatically smaller (usually).

wdawson
November 22nd, 2006, 08:39 PM
beathoven has switched to timberwolf organics...almost 2 weeks.....he has slowed on the devouring and no visable gain in weight.....his coat seems a little softer....he has the same shine and no change in the movements.

george is in the process of the switch to the bison formula......right now 50/50 mix.....we will see.
he is so picky........just older and crusty :D

x.l.r.8
December 22nd, 2006, 08:04 PM
OK time to come clean, we have been for the last month mainlining canadie and last week we were getting up every 2 hours letting him out, seems someone didn't know that liver=splats. We had 3 calfs butchered and I've been giving raw liver (more on that in a minute) and baked liver in garlic and ginger for treats for training. Basically lots of liver, turns out I need a lot more education.:o but on the other side we had the chicken necks saved from the chickens and I thought this would be a good trial, he chomped through them easily, just as well as I probably did enough damage with the liver he was getting, the leg bones of the calf's I took the marrow out of, and started to chew the bone to splinters (there was lots of meat on them as well) so i had to stop him eating them, this was done to much growling but a firm 'leave' has him backing away from what ever he has. So today I was picking up some drumsticks as they were going cheap and we had been out for a LONG walk so I pulled the skin off one and like the web site says "handed it to the dog". people were shocked and I got the usual "he'll choke on it" well 45 seconds later there was no trace of a drumstick, no choking dog and a light snak accomplished. This is about as far as I can see us going with the RAW thing as my wife can't even do the meat section of the store let alone the rest of it, but I figure if were out and hours away from home, or for first meals it can't do any harm, the rest of the time were strictly Canadie as it seems to work appart from the occassional paw nibble. Our friends thought he was ill because his wire hair feels so soft, thats good enough for me, his eyes and ears are clear and his fur is soft. Also I was over feeding, I think that was making him have bulky stools, now (well for the past 48 hours since I cut him back to 3 cups a day) he has the poops I had only heard about, must say it's nice to use the bag and not a scraper to clean up. :dog: :D Am thinking about another 120 chickens next year so I may well try and get the chickens butchered differently to allow a 50/50 raw and kibble as they will bag however we want. So i think I have finally got a regieme that works, less kibble, less liver and a balance of meat and bone, in short a good mix rather than just one thing (my fault :shrug: ) And next year I'm keeping the feet (who would have thought) from the chickens. Thanks for EVERYONE's great advice along the way, i'm much better equiped to feed my boy now. :grouphug:

Scott_B
December 22nd, 2006, 09:07 PM
:thumbs up

technodoll
December 23rd, 2006, 12:04 AM
i love these updates, most are very positive! good work everyone! :thumbs up