worrier79 October 2nd, 2006, 05:51 PM Does anyone kow of any out there that are 30+ feet? (9+ meters)
I know there is a 26ft (8m) one, haven't seen anything longer.
To save all you anti-retractable ranters some time, my guy is very well trained and does not need a leash, most of the time. But why take the chance right? So it would be nice find an extra long one fo the trail. Not to be use around streets and intersections!!!
I just don't like him chasing game and getting lots of nicks and scrathes near his eyes from running through bush. He gets enough excersize chasing me on the bike.
Puppyluv October 2nd, 2006, 06:26 PM I just don't like him chasing game and getting lots of nicks and scrathes near his eyes from running through bush. He gets enough excersize chasing me on the bike.
:eek: you're planning on cycling with him on a leash?? Be warned that this can be VERY dangerous. If you're worried about him running through the brush, a long leash won't help, it will justy get tangled, and become dangerous for you and the dog.
I've only ever seen 30 ft non-retractable leashes, but really what's 4 feet when the leash is that long? 26 ft, 30 ft.... what's the diff? (and please no one say "duhhh PL.... 4 feet!":p )
worrier79 October 2nd, 2006, 06:29 PM :eek: you're planning on cycling with him on a leash?? Be warned that this can be VERY dangerous. If you're worried about him running through the brush, a long leash won't help, it will justy get tangled, and become dangerous for you and the dog.
I've only ever seen 30 ft non-retractable leashes, but really what's 4 feet when the leash is that long? 26 ft, 30 ft.... what's the diff? (and please no one say "duhhh PL.... 4 feet!":p )
no, I am not biking with him on the leash, just for walks. although, I think biking would be ok, I could always just let the leash go if I had to.
and by 30+ I mean like 40 or 50 not exactly 30. Of course 26 and 30 is not much of a difference. :)
BMDLuver October 2nd, 2006, 06:33 PM Generally I use a 50 ft sail line. I know it's not retractable but if I have a dog I'm working on recall with then I'm still at the end of the leash. I don't think they make any longer than what you've found as it has to do with tensile and body weight combination to avoid snapping. :confused:
worrier79 October 2nd, 2006, 07:06 PM Generally I use a 50 ft sail line. I know it's not retractable but if I have a dog I'm working on recall with then I'm still at the end of the leash. I don't think they make any longer than what you've found as it has to do with tensile and body weight combination to avoid snapping. :confused:
well I could use a 500 ft climbing rope theoretically, I am looking for a leash tho
you could use a 100 ft climbing thin rope to train if the 50ft is not enough for you. I doubt anyone needs longer than 100. u need 2 of these ropes to climb safely, but I am sure 1 is enough to hold a dog (that is not hanging off a clif obviously lol). They are called "double ropes" and can be bought at any alpine store. just get a cheap one.
Prin October 2nd, 2006, 07:11 PM A leash is just an overpriced rope.:D
If you go to reno stores, they have 100ft nylon ropes for about $15. You just buy a hook at the same reno store and tie it on there and violà.:shrug:
technodoll October 2nd, 2006, 07:34 PM they are sooo dangerous, for so many reasons... here,s what happened after my girl got spooked and bolted, the leash got yanked from my hands (big heavy plastic handles are not user-friendly), it clattered after the dog who got MORE spooked... we lost her for 5 hours and when we found her, this is what remained of the leash, trailing behind her. it was a miracle she didn't get killed, the retractable leash however wasn't so lucky... NEVER AGAIN!! :mad:
http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j129/technodoll/flexi.jpg
http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j129/technodoll/flexi2.jpg
:eek:
Prin October 2nd, 2006, 07:43 PM Yeah, and if you're far from the dog and let go for whatever reason, the body of the retractable leash can nail your dog in the head.
mafiaprincess October 2nd, 2006, 08:36 PM I have a 30ft leash for hiking.. no flexi crap.. just cotton leash..
And a 75 ft rope with clasp from home depot for like 8 bucks for recall work.
I don't see a point to a flexi anywhere ever. Your dog can have the best manners in the world, but a flexi isn't helping them any.
mastifflover October 2nd, 2006, 08:38 PM You could use a lunge lead the type used for training horses that is what I used to use for my Bloodhound since they do not hear anything once there nose hits the ground. Mine was about 40'. They are a heavy cotton weave
worrier79 October 2nd, 2006, 09:35 PM You could use a lunge lead the type used for training horses that is what I used to use for my Bloodhound since they do not hear anything once there nose hits the ground. Mine was about 40'. They are a heavy cotton weave
Is it retractable?
And peeeeeople stop lash hating I'm just inquiring, I know all the risks.
I have let go of a leash before, and yes my dog gets scared, but he just runs away from it and sits down. The plastic handle thing usually ends up a foot away from him or hanging from his collar. It has never hit him in the head because it hit the ground and drags towards him, it does not fly like I threw it at him like all you lot would have everyone believing lol. And my guy loves the leash and goes crazy whenever I touch it, he does nooot hate it trust me. He loves it more than anything because it means he's going outside.
Jackie467 October 2nd, 2006, 09:46 PM I don't think they make retractable leashes that long. I love retractable leashes because then I don't have a dog that constantly gets tangled up in the leash. I think it depends on the dog on whether or not a person should use a retractable leash.
mummummum October 2nd, 2006, 09:47 PM I don't know that any of the peeeeeeople here are "leash-hating" ~ I think they are trying to give you the benefit of their experience. Many of us have raised and cared for dawgs for thirty years and more. Many of us are involved in dog-sports and competetive obedience and we take our dawg equipment very seriously evaluating it first and foremost from a safety perspective (both for our dog and ourselves) and for efficacy, endurance and cost.
Obviously the folks here don't feel you understand the very real risks posed by flexileadss and are making efforts to educate you gently but firmly. The one thing I have learned from folks here is that many of them DO know better than I do and if I want what is best for my dawgs I need to have an open mind.
erykah1310 October 2nd, 2006, 09:50 PM I personally dont like them, but have used them. I think it does depend on the environment and dog. Here, retractables were great for recall training and just general "proper hiking" the dogs know only to go so far offlead now and then come back.
I dont think I would use one in the city because "I" wouldnt be comfortable with it. But then again I am uncomfortable walking my dogs in the city as it is. ( life long country girl:shrug: )
catsnatcher-CDN October 2nd, 2006, 09:58 PM I use a retractable leash but ever since Technodoll's baby got spooked, that handle is locked into my hand.
I saw someone who had sewn a pseudo-velcro wrist thing around the handle that seemed like a great idea.
technodoll October 2nd, 2006, 10:00 PM please look again at the photos i posted of what CAN happen with a retractable leash when things go wrong - and they often do. the leash was completely destroyed, crushed and shattered by cars and trucks :eek: it's a miracle my dog didn't die. I too never thought these leashes were dangerous, i loved them, never imagined such a horrible thing would happen to me... yet: it did.
please don't think yourself invincible, is all i'm saying. maybe loop an additional safety leash around your wrist so if the handle gets yanked from your hand, you don't lose the leash. you never know what can happen! :pawprint:
worrier79 October 2nd, 2006, 10:00 PM I think it depends on the dog on whether or not a person should use a retractable leash.
I think it does depend on the environment and dog.
Glad two of u see the light.
I understand the risks, but it is not so unsafe in the right setting.
Anyways, I too do not think they are made so long, but it would be nice to be proven otherwise.
technodoll October 2nd, 2006, 10:15 PM Glad two of u see the light.
guess the rest of us will happily stay in the dark then... safe with our dogs :party: :thumbs up
worrier79 October 2nd, 2006, 10:28 PM guess the rest of us will happily stay in the dark then... safe with our dogs :party: :thumbs up
saf-ER maybe? but by what percent? lol I only use them on short walks on our property. :) Honestly, I want his nonos farther away from the path.
mastifflover October 2nd, 2006, 10:32 PM No it is not retractable but it would give you the length, and the cotton does not burn your hands the way nylon does. Also bad idea to put a velcro strap on your wrist so that it does not fly out of your hands. It could dislocate or break your wrist if your dog takes off and the handle smashes your wrist.
Prin October 2nd, 2006, 10:35 PM Wow, it's amazing how when you think you're looking out for somebody, they manage to turn it into a criticism.
If you're on a bike, you're not going to have a good grip of the retractable, and even if you let it go, if it falls on the wrong side of your handle bars, you're going for a tumble- and who knows what will happen to the dog.. If you're just walking, there's no need for a retractable either when you can have a long lead instead. IMO, a long rope offers far more control (and is much, much easier on the hands when you're pulling the dog in) than a retractable, on top of all the safety issues already mentioned above.
If you came here just to have people agree with you and validate your opinion, well, that just doesn't happen in the real world.
Lissa October 2nd, 2006, 10:50 PM Glad two of u see the light. I understand the risks, but it is not so unsafe in the right setting. Anyways, I too do not think they are made so long, but it would be nice to be proven otherwise.
saf-ER maybe? but by what percent? lol I only use them on short walks on our property. :) Honestly, I want his nonos farther away from the path.
My neighbours Beagle puppy died when her retractable leash snapped (the ribbon kind not the rope) and it was for a 60lbs dog. So obviously I do not recommend retractable leashes either. I do however think that if your dog is well-trained and you know how to use the leash properly and safely that they can be used with minimal risk. But since most people use Flexi's in inappropriate situations and don't realize the risks, many of us have learned to hate Flexi's! Which is why I think the risks need to mentioned - you may know them but others reading this thread may not!
If you are using a Flexi responsibly (ex: NOT in stores, or allowing your dog to approach and tangle people/pets or to tresspass on people's lawns etc...) and have trained your dog NEVER to pull and to respond instantly to commands (regardless of distance), then I consider that safe use of a flexi (although I don't understand why a lunge line or rope wouldn't suffice!)
I know someone who attaches the Flexi to her belt so it cannot drop out of her hand.
erykah1310 October 2nd, 2006, 10:56 PM Worrier, i honestly dont think they make them any longer than what you have stated. Prolly for good reasons.
I dont know what you could use for biking??? I remember seeing these god awful contraptions that you attach to the back of your bike and there was a spring that your dog was leashed to.
When i used to bike with Kita and Meik they were off lead ( I live very rural though) and the dogs were taught to lay in the ditch when a car came. Sometimes they would hear them before i knew it was coming. Best bet for biking is some solid training.
worrier79 October 2nd, 2006, 11:03 PM I dont know what you could use for biking???
Ok , I realized I may ahve worded it in a confusing manner, but
I do not need it for biking!!!!!!
It is for short walks in the woods outside. My dog is off the leash when I am biking. And I bike through a park!!! not by a road so do not worry, although good job on ditch training!
erykah1310 October 2nd, 2006, 11:07 PM I would go for the long horse lunge lead, not retractable but you could loop it up ( big loops) when you wanted to shorten the distance, but as said earlier, i dont think there are longer retractables. sorry.
Prin October 2nd, 2006, 11:08 PM I think the law limits how long they can be. :shrug:
worrier79 October 3rd, 2006, 12:29 AM I think the law limits how long they can be. :shrug:
not on ur own propartay :thumbs up
rainbow October 3rd, 2006, 01:09 AM I think Prin means the law limits how long they can be so therefore they cannot be made more than 30 feet long. If you want something longer you'll have to use a lunge line.
mummummum October 3rd, 2006, 01:33 AM I dont know what you could use for biking??? I remember seeing these god awful contraptions that you attach to the back of your bike and there was a spring that your dog was leashed to..
Actually I have one of these Erykah and it's fantastic. It attaches to the side of your bike though not the back and has a safety latch that disengages if the dogs leash gets caught on something. It's designed to keep the dawg at distance from the bike and is much safer for dawg and cyclist than riding without a leash or holding a loose leash. Bridie loves it and I've never had any problems with using it. Although I agree, it sure does look funny and it makes getting a "parking space" a little difficult.:D
Prin October 3rd, 2006, 01:36 AM not on ur own propartay :thumbs up
Oh, I must have misunderstood when you said you were going to bike in a park, I thought you meant a public park, where dogs by law have to be leashed and the leashes are a maximum length as set by the law.
Lise October 3rd, 2006, 02:15 PM I have two fifty foot flexis.They are made for tracking,they do not have a brake.I only use them on my property in an open field and mainly for my cairn who does not recall and disappears down holes.They are made for dogs up to 120 lbs and she's eight.I would not use that length on a large dog or in any other enviroment.I find it's easier than a long leash.Just my opinion.
worrier79 October 3rd, 2006, 04:25 PM I have two fifty foot flexis.
Ok so they do exist? I am happy some of you were wrong lol
Maybe they were recalled or no longer made for safetly concerns? Cuz I can't find one online.
worrier79 October 3rd, 2006, 04:28 PM I think Prin means the law limits how long they can be so therefore they cannot be made more than 30 feet long. If you want something longer you'll have to use a lunge line.
You wouldn't have to sell it in Canada or any such country. Maybe there is a 200ft. Chinese Flexi I don't know about. It would be perfectly legal to use it on ur acreage.
mummummum October 3rd, 2006, 06:10 PM Ok so they do exist? I am happy some of you were wrong lol
Maybe they were recalled or no longer made for safetly concerns? Cuz I can't find one online.
You are happy we were wrong because ~ "something may have been recalled or no longer made for safetly (sic) concerns" ?
Gee worrier79 , you certainly do have a :troll: way with words.
technodoll October 3rd, 2006, 06:17 PM yep, my thoughts exactly... :troll: attitude!
worrier79 October 3rd, 2006, 06:39 PM Jeeeeez ya'll need to relax.
I am happy those who said it did not exist were wrong because the product I was looking for exists! And I am sure those who thought it did not exist are not offended by the fact that I am happy they were wrong lol
And just because some people cannot use certain products safely and get them banned, does not mean I would use that product unsafely. There are parents that give their 4 yr olds (human children) some strong form of ritalin and they die of a heart attack. The strong form of ritalin gets banned and adults that do not die from it suffer. Does that meant he medication is bad for everyone? Theer are many examples like this.
Oh, and I was guessing at why I could not find it online, I did not find any source that said it was banned or unsafe.
mafiaprincess October 3rd, 2006, 06:42 PM Jeeeeez ya'll need to relax.
No need to be snarky and nasty about it. That would be the troll mentality and attitude people don't appreciate and are getting their backs up about. If you post a thread you get all walks of advice because people all have many experiences.
Being nasty about it may just get you no advice in future.
Blathach October 3rd, 2006, 06:52 PM This thread has run its course.
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