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Help our pup-urine related.

September 21st, 2006, 01:14 PM
Hi all...some great info here. I'm hoping to get your help as we are at wit's end. Sorry for the length of this, but we need help.

We have a 5 1/2 month old golden retriever. We originally was feeding him foundations (thats what the breeder gave him), and he started having loose stools. We switched him to medi-cal fibre and that made his poops great.

Since then we tried switching to Natural Balance duck and potato. He developed a UTI with Struvite crystals and alkaline urine. Through numerous urine tests and trial and error we discovered that his urine didnt have crystals with the fibre diet.

We than tried switching him to Wolf King and the crystals returned along with a high urine ph.

Our vet would like to permanently put him on Medi-cal preventative formula. We aren't sure that we feel the food has the best ingredients for him long term.

Are there any other quality dog foods out there that will help prevent crystals?

We are considering a BARF diet, but I dont want to get into that debate right now, as we would first be interested in a kibble that we approve of and works for him. (Our vet isnt a fan of raw, but is happy to go along for the ride with us if that is what we choose)

As well can anybody recommend a vetrinary nutritionist in the Toronto area that we can consult with to make the best informed decision.

I appreciate you taking the time to read this and for any input you may have to offer.

September 21st, 2006, 01:32 PM
welcome to the forum, and so sorry you are having so many problems - what does your breeder say? do the parents have similar problems, how about the littermates? or is it specific to your pup?

5.5 months is a CRITICAL growth state: puppies are at their growing peak from 4 to 7 months old and need the best nutrition possible for those growing bones, teeth, muscles, organs, etc. IMO anything the vet sells you is not going to cut it, and your pup *may* suffer long-term effects from an inadequate nutrition at this point. You need to feed enormous amounts of Medi-cal fibre to ensure your pup's proper growth and must be cleaning up a lot of poop :( !!

perhaps feeding EVO with a bit of home-cooked rice (with rice water, which contains sticky starch) will do the trick. great nutrition, fiber, etc.... many folks have had great success with this. also a daily cranberry tablet can help with UTIs. ...

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September 21st, 2006, 01:48 PM
We just got the lab results yesterday after going halfway through the switch over to Wolf King. Im waiting to hear back from my breeder....(shes helped advised us up till now). This is specific to this particular dog, and the breeder has never had any of these issues with any of her other dogs...(I trust her 110% as she really cares about them).

What is EVO? We are putting cranberry in his drinking water.....

thanks for the reply.

September 21st, 2006, 01:56 PM
Evo is a type of food made by Innova.

September 21st, 2006, 02:00 PM
well the good news is SG has changed their wolf king formula for the worse, and a few member's dogs have gotten sick on it so people will not be buying anything from SG anymore (they didn't warn consumers of the ingredients change). sneaky company! :frustrated:

if the vet approves, get cranberry tablets from the drugstore (for human UTI supplementation) and give your boy half a tablet per day (just drop down his throat). it should help!

Innova EVO is a grainless kibble, they have poultry or red meat varieties. No grains mean smaller, firmer stools and the high-protein is great for dogs & growing puppies. It's a bit more expensive than other holistic brands but you don't need to feed as much. YOu can cut the meals with rice if you like, for added fiber & nutrition (brown rice is best). here is the website if you're interested:


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a good diet builds up a dog's immune system and helps prevent problems such as UTIs. just make sure to clear up any existing infection first with antibiotics, and then continue preventative treatment...

good luck! :thumbs up