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hand after ONE dog tooth puncture

technodoll
September 15th, 2006, 10:57 PM
so i posted in another thread that hubby got bitten by a dog while trying to stop a fight yesterday morning. one tooth puncture, 5 stitches, antibiotics for a week, and bad pain, stiffness, awful swelling. he learned his lesson the hard way... i cannot imagine what it must be like to get REALLY bitten :eek: so all dog owners beware... NEVER try to break up a dog fight with your hands!

ps: incidentally, neither dog had a scratch!

http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j129/technodoll/dogbite_2.jpg

here is our little peanut wanting to make her daddy feel better with a kiss! she turns 11 months old this weekend... it's too fast!! :(

http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j129/technodoll/peanut_2.jpg

OntarioGreys
September 15th, 2006, 11:31 PM
wow does that look bad!!! :eek: I have a scar on both sides of my arm from a bite when I was a kid trying to break up a dog fight, between an irish setter and an old english sheepdog, it swelled up some but nothing like that, silly me I did not want to get in trouble with my dad so I never told anyone that I got bit, I realized a few years later how lucky I was

jiorji
September 15th, 2006, 11:37 PM
I've seen Prin try to break up a small doggie fight at the spca. scary.(the dog fight not Prin hehe)
be careful Prin :mad: :o


TD.. at least your hubby didn't have to have additional rabies shot taken. I hear those are horrible.

technodoll
September 15th, 2006, 11:40 PM
yeah he only got the tetanus shot... the doctor said there were no rabies here so they didn't recommend the shot.... he has to go back at 10am tomorrow for a follow-up appointment, they have to check for infection. he's got the chills tonight, then gets hot, his whole arm hurts despite painkillers. ONE SMALL BITE!! :eek:

jiorji
September 15th, 2006, 11:47 PM
poor hubby!

i don't know what the chills mean. I sure hope it's just his body panicking, it's just ONE small bite! If it's something serious ...which i hope not...that's just bad luck right there.

I hope he gets off easy at the doc tomorrow :fingerscr or Dakotah will want to kick some a$$ for biting his daddy :evil:

meb999
September 15th, 2006, 11:53 PM
:eek: HOLY CRAP!!! is he still taking antibiotics?

technodoll
September 15th, 2006, 11:55 PM
thank you jiorji... i just made him a hot tisane and he feels better. he's definitely fighting an infection though. of all the rotten luck!

meb, yes antibiotics for 5 days, strong ones too. they quizzed him at the drugstore as to why he had such a prescription :confused:

i'm soooo wary of any dog teeth now... holy cow. :eek:

Sucker4aStray
September 16th, 2006, 01:21 AM
That looks awful! FYI for future reference, if you shold ever need to break up a dog fight(I would only reccomend this if one of the dogs in question is yours) they say that you should grab one of the dogs hind legs and pull backwards away from the fight. It will minimize the risk of you getting bitten.

Puppyluv
September 16th, 2006, 01:47 AM
Poor guy.
I got bit by a dog when I was about 7, very small, about the same size has his, in the middle of my hand (top). Ended up with a horrible blood infection because the doctor figured it was "nothing". Hospitalized for a week. So I hope he's ok!!!!:fingerscr :fingerscr :fingerscr

Smiley14
September 16th, 2006, 03:43 AM
Oh, that looks painful and awful! I'm so sorry to hear he got bit! I'm glad your dog is ok at least! But oh, your poor hubby! :eek: That looks horrible. :(

It is a good warning/reminder though! I think it must be instinct to us to want to reach in...yikes! Thanks for sharing!

Rottielover
September 16th, 2006, 07:43 AM
TD, this fight had nothing to do with your dogs right?

jesse's mommy
September 16th, 2006, 08:14 AM
they quizzed him at the drugstore as to why he had such a prescription :confused:


That's kind of strange. I know pharmacists can discuss the medication, but I didn't know they had the right to ask why. I would have probably came up with some smart a$$ comment like "Let me just say hopefully this works or else you won't want to be around me when it's a full moon!"

Seriously though I hope he is feeling better.

Frenchy
September 16th, 2006, 08:17 AM
OMG!:eek: His hand doesn't look too good :sick: What kind of dog bit him? (big / small??)

erykah1310
September 16th, 2006, 11:00 AM
Techno, I feel for him. ( Literally :D ) Im not all swolen but Im badly bruised. I have never seen a hand so swolen before. Poor Techno's hubby :grouphug:
Hope the anitbiotics help.

K9Friend
September 16th, 2006, 11:37 AM
From leerburg's dog site:http://www.leerburg.com/dogfight.htm

The safest way to break up a dogfight requires 2 people. Each person grabs the back feet of one of the dogs. The dog back feet are then picked up like a wheelbarrow. With the legs up, both dogs are then pulled apart.

Once the dog fight is broken up and the dogs pulled apart it is critical that the people do not release the dogs or the dog fight will begin again. The two people need to start turning in a circle, or slowly swinging the dogs in a circle while they back away from the other dog. This stops the dog from curling and coming back and biting the person holding their legs.

I've had to use this method and it works.

technodoll
September 16th, 2006, 12:33 PM
hubby's at the hospital since 10am, they just ran a blood test and it looks like an infection :( he'll probably need IV antibiotics. CRAP!! I've just learned that dog bites are rarely stitched except if in the face, to avoid blood infection - so what were they thinking? :confused:

and on such a beautiful warm sunny weekend too... what a waste of time and energy, not to mention he's in really bad pain. my poor sweetie. please send him some healing vibes! :sick:

Frenchy
September 16th, 2006, 01:42 PM
I'm so sorry TD! Hope he recovers soon :fingerscr :pray:

we3beagles
September 16th, 2006, 02:55 PM
That looks awful! FYI for future reference, if you shold ever need to break up a dog fight(I would only reccomend this if one of the dogs in question is yours) they say that you should grab one of the dogs hind legs and pull backwards away from the fight. It will minimize the risk of you getting bitten.
I read somewhere that throwing your jacket over their heads causes enough confusion to get your dog away too. Pretty slim chance you are going to get hurt this way too.

badger
September 16th, 2006, 03:09 PM
Two extra-strength Tylonol should take care of the pain. In the hospital they may offer him Tylonol 3's (with codeine) which work even better. Poor guy, I hope he gets some relief.
I though Tylonol was only for headaches until one day I burnt myself pretty badly and popped a couple on the off-chance. Worked like a charm.

Skryker
September 16th, 2006, 03:12 PM
:eek: Oh, TD, your poor husband! That looks awful. Who would think a one puncture could do so much. Hope he gets better soon.:grouphug:

meb999
September 16th, 2006, 04:03 PM
That's why i asked if he was still on antibiotics, 'cause it looks like a wicked infection. Yowsa. Poor guy. Can they open the wound back up (take out the stitches) and maybe do a soak (in water with a bit of javex...to kill off the worse of the bacteria?)?

I'm sending him lotsa positive healing thoughts! :fingerscr :fingerscr I agree with badger -- -ask for tylenol 3, nothing kills pain like codein!

technodoll
September 16th, 2006, 06:29 PM
Update... hubby saw a specialist at the hospital today who confirmed a blood infection, and that his hand should NOT have been stitched up and on top of that, the prescribed antibiotics were not the right dose. WTF! sooo... he got a shot in his butt that hurt terribly, and he has to go back every day for the next 3 days for more vaccinations - hubby is not pleased! it was either the intramuscular injections or an IV... luckily he's very acceptingof it all and not bitter or anything... he's walking funny though. Yes, taking tylenol for the pain but feeling very nauseous & tired.

thanks everyone for your advice & support... what a way to learn!! :eek:

papillonmama
September 16th, 2006, 06:53 PM
ouch that looked too swollen Not to be infected. Good thing he got the tetanus shot though, maybe that's why the pharmacist was giving him the pop quiz, not questioning your bf, but the doctor who wrote the prescription, but then, shouldn't he have Actually been questioning the doctor and not the patient???

Send along a get better soon.:thumbs up

rainbow
September 16th, 2006, 06:57 PM
I just seen this thead. I'm so sorry to hear that your hubby's bite was so bad. :grouphug: And now a blood infection because they did stitches in error. :eek:

pitgrrl
September 16th, 2006, 07:35 PM
Man, that looks painful! I hope he's on the mend soon.

I'm starting to think Montreal must be filled with really nasty bacteria, this is the third really bad infection from a relatively small wound I've seen in 2 weeks.

Prin
September 16th, 2006, 09:15 PM
It's not that Montreal has bacteria- it's that a LOT of Montreal doggies aren't cared for as much as they should be... :shrug:

That looks really bad though. Hope he's ok.:fingerscr

technodoll
September 16th, 2006, 09:15 PM
I'm starting to think Montreal must be filled with really nasty bacteria, this is the third really bad infection from a relatively small wound I've seen in 2 weeks

really? what were the other two? :eek: all i know is that if i EVER get bitten by a dog (knock on wood it's not going to happen!), unless it's on the face, the recommendation is to use butterfly tape bandages and NOT stitches, just because of the risk of such infections. :o

pitgrrl
September 16th, 2006, 10:15 PM
The other two weren't dog bites, just small, seemingly simple cuts to the hand that turned into horrible infections.
My father was one of these people. He got a small scrape at work and by the next day his hand was huge and purple with white fingers. After a tetnus shot and some serious anti-biotics it's healing, but who would think a small wound could end up like that?

What happened to get your husband bitten? Did you know the dog?

technodoll
September 17th, 2006, 12:15 AM
What happened to get your husband bitten? Did you know the dog?

he got bitten by a dog while trying to stop a fight yesterday morning at the dog park (stubborn collie mix who refused to submit to dakotah, and the little woman owner didn't want to get involved - grrr). of course neither dog got a scratch. :shrug:

Prin
September 17th, 2006, 12:21 AM
I've seen Prin try to break up a small doggie fight at the spca. scary.(the dog fight not Prin hehe)
be careful Prin :mad: :o I'm a trained professional. :D

Seriously, I grew up with the viciousest of vicious dogs, so from 8 and on, I was always breaking up dog fights. :o I've never been bitten while breaking up a fight, but I've never broken up a fight that I wasn't sure of. All I can say is never break up a dog fight unless you are 100% sure you can do it. When you're not sure just start SCREAMING.

Oh and NEVER ever ever use your feet to break up two dogs in action. If one dog is mauling another, sometimes kicking it will break the "trance" they get in, but if both dogs are going equally, sticking feet or hands in where the teeth are can get you bitten really quickly.:shrug:

It also helps, if you go to a dog park, to get to know all the dogs that are in with you that day. Like walk around and introduce yourself to them, just to get a feel for them and to let them get a feel for you and your intentions.

technodoll
September 17th, 2006, 12:27 AM
It also helps, if you go to a dog park, to get to know all the dogs that are in with you that day. Like walk around and introduce yourself to them, just to get a feel for them and to let them get a feel for you and your intentions.

TOTALLY! and we all (me, hubby, and our dog sitter) all follow that religiously. buuuuut yesterday hubby was lax, said he introduced the two dogs who sniffed each other and went their seperate ways (dakotah always on a leash at this point), so he assumed everything was ok... and then a few minutes later the other dog came close and started growling... at that point i would have leashed dakotah and quickly left the park cuz i know he won't back down if the dog comes closer. well hubby was asleep at the switch, so to speak, and didn't think anything would happen cuz the owner said "he is a submissive dog, he won't fight". riiiight. her dog jumped on dakotah, dakotah put him on his back in 3 seconds, then stopped and walked away but the other dog got up and jumped on him again. after the 3rd time hubby said "that's enough" and then intervened cuz it was just so stupid. well yah... the rest of the story is even stupider! :mad:

Prin
September 17th, 2006, 12:29 AM
3rd time's a charm.:D

But I mean you too. Not just the dogs. When your doggy is off running and you get a minute, get to know the guys you're with. :)

technodoll
September 17th, 2006, 12:36 AM
yeah, for sure. the rare times i'm in a dog park (i avoid them cuz too much trouble... but hubby and my dogsitter go every day with the beanies) i try to go speak to everone and ask about their dog, explain about dakotah, etc. I have rarely met anyone who didn't appreciate this, and most folks will gladly cooperate to maintain a good "tone" in the park... like screaming kids in restaurants, if my boy is making anyone uncomfortable, we leave. :shrug:

ah, i much prefer vast green fields and forests to the city! :cloud9:

K9Friend
September 17th, 2006, 08:51 AM
said he introduced the two dogs who sniffed each other and went their seperate ways (dakotah always on a leash at this point), so he assumed everything was ok...


Your husband was inside the dog park with a leashed dog?!

technodoll
September 17th, 2006, 12:29 PM
Your husband was inside the dog park with a leashed dog?!

oh yes, we have to. Maika runs and plays with everyone so we don't want to deny her that one pleasure, but with dakotah it really depends on who's there. he's off-leash more than half the time (if he gets along with everyone there) and as soon as a dog comes in that park that we don't know, he's back on the leash for safe introductions. the people at the park really appreciate this, and it has saved us many brawls :o dakotah's used to it now, if he's on the leash he gets to walk around, mark, play with the dogs who come up to him & that he likes, etc. it's the best compromise we've found so far for our busy city schedules :shrug:

jiorji
September 17th, 2006, 02:12 PM
he got bitten by a dog while trying to stop a fight yesterday morning at the dog park (stubborn collie mix who refused to submit to dakotah, and the little woman owner didn't want to get involved - grrr). of course neither dog got a scratch. :shrug:


aww but isn't that always the case?? dads always getting hurt to save their babies from getting hurt??:D

technodoll
September 17th, 2006, 03:32 PM
jiorji, it's one of murphy's laws isn't it? :rolleyes:

Prin
September 17th, 2006, 11:23 PM
A lot of the time, leashes in dog parks actually cause more aggression. :o

technodoll
September 17th, 2006, 11:28 PM
it can, if not done right. but the alternative (not leashing him) is asking for bloodshed, or avoidance of the park altogether, which is not feasible because of maika. it's not always easy having two!! :frustrated: so we do what we can... it's not perfect but until we move out of the city or at least get a back yard, thems the troubles we have to deal with. sigh.

mafiaprincess
September 21st, 2006, 10:45 PM
How's his hand doing?

technodoll
September 21st, 2006, 11:15 PM
oh it's much better, thanks for asking! :) still swollen and oozing (he removed his stitches a couple days ago :frustrated: ) but he can use his hand for basic stuff now. Last antibiotic shot in the butt today (:D ) and still a week of oral antibiotics... all this for ONE SMALL PUNCTURE!

hopefully this incident will help prevent other more serious injuries to all those who read it :eek:

mafiaprincess
September 21st, 2006, 11:17 PM
Man, that's rough.. I'm glad he's getting better though..
I should have been more concerned in like March when Cider punctured my hand playing.. Few days later I played with a pup in petsmart, and that dog broke skin like in 4 places.. If I wasn't already on antibiotics at that point I might have been in mighty big trouble too.. Think in future I'll be keeping better track of punctures I might shrug off otherwise..

technodoll
September 21st, 2006, 11:28 PM
Think in future I'll be keeping better track of punctures I might shrug off otherwise..

yeah... you never know :sick: perhaps depth of puncture has something to do with it... this tooth went down to the bone so maybe more bacteria penetrated the body?... also never stitch a dog bite if it can be bandaged to drain! :frustrated:

mafiaprincess
September 21st, 2006, 11:36 PM
Yeah.. I've never had a bite so deep.. But the minor one I shrugged of for a few days till I couldn't move my hand without pain I think was getting infected..

That's such a scary experience to read about though.. The picture is worth 1000 words for sure..

surveychick
September 22nd, 2006, 07:59 AM
i was bit in 2003..well attacked actually..& bit 3 times--hand, forearm & back. I developed cellulitis & a subsequent bone infection. They lanced my hand to allow it to drain...and it stayed open for a couple weeks draining. I was put on IV antibiotics and followed up with 8 weeks of high dosage antibiotics...around 3000mgs/day! I was So sick & left weak & miserable from the drugs. Make sure they watch hubby carefully. :grouphug:
I wish him good health quickly!

Nicole

technodoll
September 22nd, 2006, 09:38 AM
wow nicole that is TERRIBLE! :grouphug: so glad you pulled out of it ok... you ARE ok now, right? :confused: what happened to the dog that bit you, if you don't mind me asking?....

i never in my life imagined that dog bites could cause so much trauma and ensuing sickness. holy cow... puts a whole new light on things now. talk about an eye-opener!

Frenchy
September 22nd, 2006, 07:22 PM
i never in my life imagined that dog bites could cause so much trauma and ensuing sickness. holy cow... puts a whole new light on things now. talk about an eye-opener!
I got bit by a feral cat that hangs around my neighbor's house last winter. When I call the CLSC,they told me I had to come in a.s.a.p. for a shot.Then they had to contact ministere de la santé (something like that) they wanted to know my neighbor's name,adress.... so I went to my neighbor to explain the situation,they told him to check the cat for the next 10 days.If the cat had shown signs of rabies,I would had needed 5 more shots :eek:

technodoll
September 22nd, 2006, 07:59 PM
holy cow frenchy!!

is there anyone on this board who has never been bitten? :(

Frenchy
September 22nd, 2006, 08:03 PM
Never by a dog. And I was the kind of kid who would approach any dog,big or small,without any fear,maybe that's why? What am I saying,I still do! One time at my vet,I pet a great dane without asking the owner first,only while I was petting the dog did i ask; your dog is not mean right :p It's a reflex of mine,if there's a dog,I will pet him...:shrug:

ByronsDad
September 26th, 2006, 11:36 AM
I was bitten by a neighbour’s dog back when I was in high school. I was walking our 13 year old Bouvier (on a leash) and our neighbour’s German Sheppard as it turned out, wasn’t on his rope. He came running out from the back, teeth bared and snarling. Our dog was more than prepared to stand and fight (to protect me – he wasn’t a fighter), but at 13 he was in no condition to take on a 2 year old GS. So of course I put myself in front of my dog (he was such a sweet and gentle soul). In the GS’s attempt to get at my dog, he ended up clamping down on my leg. I have to admit that my mood went from panicked protectiveness to right anger. I ended up kicking the other dog in the head from under the chin, and this was during soccer season. That, thankfully, was enough to put an end to matters, and the other dog scampered off.

I confronted the neighbour about her dog, but she really didn’t give two s**ts. To give you an idea about her mentality with pets, let me tell you her track record with dogs. She has always had a GS, ever since we moved up about 20 years ago. None of them have ever lived past 5 years. She leaves them outside, all day, every day, no matter how bad the weather gets. Not surprisingly, virtually none of her dogs are properly socialized, and all but one have been very aggressive. And she yelled at me for letting my dog crap on the road near her driveway, a few months after the dog attack no less.

As for the bite, the teeth never made it through the skin, though my leg did bruise something awful. My jeans saved the day. I love jeans! :thumbs up

badger
September 26th, 2006, 12:14 PM
I once had a terrified cat climb up me like a tree, ending at my head, to which he clung, with all ten claws, until the blood ran down my face, I kid you not. I could barely comb my hair for weeks, my head was so full of scabs (ewww). It never occurred to me to go to the hospital. But I think it is probably a wise thing to do, plus have an up-to-date tetanus shot, which now lasts ten years.

Another time I was bitten (I forget whether it was a dog or a cat, most likely a cat) and it got hot and red and painful, so off to the emerg, where I was checked out and given a prescription for some very expensive antibiotics, which I kept in my bag. Also in there was a un-labelled pill container of Tylenol. Yep, I took the Tylenol faithfully every 12 hours, thinking it was antibiotics, and found the right pills later, untouched. So if you convince yourself that what you're taking is the real deal, maybe the placebo effect kicks in. Then again, I may just have been lucky.