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Leo + Pawz + nutrition = Megan totally confused lol

dtbmnec
August 26th, 2006, 03:17 PM
All righty then...I'm really really needing the head bash wall guy because that's how I feel with the darn foods anymore...:frustrated:

Right now they're on Perfomatrin and upon closer inspection I'm starting to wonder what kind of Crack I was taking when I bought it. So I'm looking for better food like stuff that I can buy from Pet Valu. Right now I'm just looking at the wet I'll worry about the dry in a bit (give you guys a rest from my crazy posting :p) I'm gonna see if I can get the prices from the company too...

Right now they're on this:

Sufficient Water for processing, meat by-products, poultry by-products, animal liver, ocean fish, rice flour, guar gum, dried skimmed milk, salt, potassium chloride, carrageenan, choline chloride, vitamins (vitamin E, A, D3, B12 supplements, thiamin mononitrate, niacin, d-calcium pantothenate, pyridoxine hydrochloride, riboflavin supplement, folic acid, biotin), minerals (ferrous sulfate, zinc oxide, copper proteinate, manganous sulfate, potassium iodide, sodium selenite), taurine

For 24 of the cans I think I paid about 17 dollars or so.

Vet reccomendation: Science Diet (liver and chicken)

Water, Pork Liver, Chicken, Egg Product, Soybean Meal, Fish Meal, Brewers Rice, Corn Gluten Meal, Chicken Fat (preserved with mixed tocopherols and citric acid), Corn Starch, Soy Protein Isolate, DL-Methionine, Choline Chloride, Brewers Dried Yeast, Taurine, Iodized Salt, Iron Oxide, Potassium Chloride, Calcium Sulfate, Vitamin E Supplement, Thiamine Mononitrate, Ascorbic Acid (source of vitamin C), Zinc Oxide, Ferrous Sulfate, Beta-Carotene, Niacin, Manganous Oxide, Copper Sulfate, Pyridoxine Hydrochloride, Calcium Pantothenate, Vitamin B12 Supplement, Riboflavin, Biotin, Vitamin D3 Supplement, Calcium Iodate, Folic Acid, Sodium Selenite.

Price: 16.49/24 cans (5.5 oz) at Petsmart (no prices on website)

Alternate Vet reccomendation: Eukanuba

Chicken Broth, Chicken, Poultry Liver, Wheat Gluten, Dried Beet Pulp (sugar removed), Meat By-Products, Natural Flavors, Guar Gum, Fish Oil (preserved with mixed Tocopherols), Salt, Fructooligosaccharides, Potassium Chloride, Minerals (Iron Amino Acid Chelate, Zinc Amino Acid Chelate, Cobalt Amino Acid Chelate, Copper Amino Acid Chelate, Manganese Amino Acid Chelate, Sodium Selenite, Potassium Iodide), Sodium Carbonate, DL-Methionine, Caramel, Vitamins (Vitamin E Supplement, Vitamin A Acetate, Vitamin D3 Supplement, Vitamin B12 Supplement, Thiamine Mononitrate (source of vitamin B1), Niacin, Calcium Pantothenate, Pyridoxine Hydrochloride (source of vitamin B6), Riboflavin Supplement (source of vitamin B2), Folic Acid, Biotin), Choline Chloride, Sodium Phosphate, Taurine

Price: 18.00/24 (3 oz) from EPet online (could be american)

Eagle Pack (one of the ones you guys like)

Chicken Meal, Ground Brown Rice, Chicken Fat (Preserved with Natural Mixed Tocopherols and Citric Acid), Corn Gluten Meal, Ground Yellow Corn, Dried Beet Pulp, Chicken, Flaxseed, Pork Meal*, Anchovy & Sardine Meal, Brewers Dried Yeast, Chicken Liver Digest, Wheat Germ Meal, Dried Egg Product, Tomato Pomace, Salt, Potassium Chloride, Taurine, Inulin, Vitamin A Acetate, Vitamin D3 Supplement, Vitamin E Supplement, Vitamin B12 Supplement, Riboflavin Supplement, Niacin Supplement, Choline Chloride, Calcium Pantothenate, Folic Acid, Pyridoxine Hydrochloride, Thiamine Mononitrate, Biotin, Rosemary Extract, Ascorbic Acid, dl-Methionine, Inositol, Polysaccharide Complexes (sequestered) Zinc, Iron, Manganese, Copper and Cobalt, Calcium Iodate, Sodium Selenite, Calcium Carbonate, Yucca Schidigera Extract, Lactobacillus acidophilus, Enterococcus faecium, B. Subtillus, Bacillus lichenformis, Bacillus coagulins, Aspergillus oryzae and Aspergillus niger.

Price: 16.00/24 (5.5 oz) at EPet online (again could be american)

Merrick: California Roll

Salmon, Tuna, Chicken Broth, Crab, Brown Rice, Fresh Cucumber, Fresh Carrots, Fresh Golden Delicious Apples, Chicken Stock, Dried Egg, Olive Oil, Dried Cranberry, Cassia Gum, Carrageenan, Potassium Chloride, Tricalcium Phosphate, Choline Chloride, Salt, Taurine, Mixed Tocopherols, Vitamin E Supplement, Yucca Schidigera Extract, Zinc Amino Acid Complex, Iron Amino Acid Complex, Manganese Amino Acid Complex, Vitamin B12 Supplement, Copper Amino Acid Complex, d-Calcium Pantothenate, Vitamin A Acetate, Niacin, Lecithin, Vitamin D3 Supplement, Riboflavin Supplement, Folic Acid, Ethylenediamine Dihydriodide, Cobalt Glucoheptanate, Pyridoxine Hydrochloride, Biotin, Thiamine Mononitrate, Sodium Selenite.

Price: 34.99/24 (5.5 oz) off their site (or 42.72/24 (5.5 oz) off the EPet site)

Felidae

Chicken, Turkey, Chicken Broth, Chicken Liver, Herring (Source of Omega 3), Lamb, Brown Rice, Eggs, Sun Cured Alfalfa Meal, Sunflower Oil, Dicalcium Sulfate, Potassium Chloride, Guar Gum, Flax Seed Oil (Source of Omega 3) Choline Chloride, Salt, Kelp, Cranberries, Rosemary Extract, Carrageenan, Yucca Schidigera Extract, Taurine, Vitamin E Supplement, Zinc Amino Acid Chelate, Iron Amino Acid Chelate, Manganese Amino Acid Chelate, Vitamin B12 Supplement, Vitamin A Supplement, Copper Amino Acid Chelate, D-Calcium Pantothenate, Niacin, Lecithin, Vitamin D3 Supplement, Riboflavin Supplement, Folic Acid, Pyridoxine Hydro-chlride, Biotin, Thiamine Mononitrate, Sodium Selenite

Price: 19.44/24 (6 oz) off the EPet site

Solid Gold: Blended Tuna

Tuna | Water Sufficient for Processing | Tapioca | Canola Oil | Cellulose Gum | Calcium Iodate | Biotin | Calcium Sulfate | Tricalcium Phosphate | Potassium Chloride | Choline Chloride | Ferrous Sulfate | Zinc Oxide | Nicotinamide | Vitamin E Supplement | Taurine | Thiamine Mononitrate | Vitamin B12 Supplement | Vitamin A Acetate | Manganous Oxide | Pyridoxine Hydrochloride | Calcium Panthothenate | Folic Acid | Riboflavin | Vitamin D3 Supplement | Copper Sulfate | Menadione Sodium Bisulfate Complex |

Price: 32.40/24 (6oz) off their website

Natural Balance: Ocean Fish

Ocean Fish, Fish Broth, Turkey, Chicken Liver, Brown Rice Flour, Carrots, Fish Meal, Lecithin, Dried Cranberries, Dicalcium Phosphate, Sodium Tripolyphosphate, Potassium Chloride, Sodium Chloride, Taurine, Calcium Carbonate, Choline Chloride, Carrageenan, Zinc Sulfate, Iron Sulfate, Vitamin E Supplement, Copper Sulfate, Manganese Sulfate, Niacin Supplement, Sodium Selenite, Thiamine Mononitrate, Calcium Pantothenate, Calcium Iodate, Pyridoxine Hydrochloride (Vitamin B6), Riboflavin, Vitamin A Supplement, Folic Acid, Vitamin K1 Supplement, Biotin, Vitamin D3 Supplement, Vitamin B12 Supplement

Price: 18.00/24 (6oz) off the EPet website

These are all the ones that I've heard talked about that I can get from Pet Valu. I can't really go all the way across the city every month for cat food because I don't have a car to carry it. So part of this IS convenience but I think I've got enough of a variety going on here that I should be ok.

I've heard lots of people reccomend the Eagle Pack but I think it looks worse than the Performatrin.

Help? :)

Megan

rainbow
August 26th, 2006, 03:31 PM
The Merrick one looks the best but is a bit pricey. The Felidae would be my choice and the price is pretty reasonable. The Natural Balance is good too if you want to alternate between the two. That's just my opinion. :cat:

dtbmnec
August 26th, 2006, 03:33 PM
The Merrick one looks the best but is a bit pricey. The Felidae would be my choice and the price is pretty reasonable. The Natural Balance is good too if you want to alternate between the two. That's just my opinion. :cat:

Ok but if I alternate between the two....don't I have to phase one out and phase the other in? Or am I just more confused lol

Megan

rainbow
August 26th, 2006, 03:43 PM
Not with wet food. You only have to switch gradually with dry food. :cat:

dtbmnec
August 26th, 2006, 03:51 PM
*tries to find lightbulb smiley* Oooooooh OK...

Hmm I've been going about it all wrong then....:D I had thought it was the other way around....:)

Points for Megan's intelligence: 0
Points for Megan's sillyness/idiotness: 397812498349

lol :p

Ack I'll get the hang of this....at some point...eventually...before I die....lol

Megan

chico2
August 26th, 2006, 03:57 PM
Megan,I cannot speak for your kitties,but I alternate all the time,right now my cats eat,Wellness Salmon,Chicken-soup-for-catlovers-soul(not available at Pet Value)and Solid Gold for cats.

My three all like different things and are used to me trying foods,so for me it's no problem changing.
So,I have 3 bowls of different dry food 24/7:eek:
I would not feed my cats Eukanuba nor Science Diet.

rainbow
August 26th, 2006, 04:25 PM
Chico, do you put out one bowl of Wellness dry, one bowl of Chicken Soup dry and one bowl of Solid Gold dry? I thought you fed them wet food? :confused:

chico2
August 26th, 2006, 04:45 PM
Yes I feed them wet,morning and night,they share a 7oz can twice a day and I have 3 bowls(not always) of dry food 24/7 for them to nibble on:D
They seem to eat only a few nibbles of the dry food,I could never feed them only dry,or I would not..they love their canned food and know exactly when it's feeding time:D

rainbow
August 26th, 2006, 05:22 PM
What brand of wet food do you give them or is that a smorgasbord too? :D

dtbmnec
August 26th, 2006, 05:50 PM
Now I just have to worry about putting an expansion on my cupboards...:p

Well I'm not 100 percent on this but I think Pawz eats more dry than he does wet (which could cause problems later on). Leo all but attacks the wet food! lol I swear if he could bathe in it he'd be happiest! :p

In fact earlier today I just had the dry food out and I'm hearing meowing from three different cats....they all want wet though Leo won't touch the performatrin....then again neither would I upon further inspection....

That's it whenever I go out to buy food I'm carrying ingredient lists so I know whether its a good or bad food...bah! Solve my problems...lol

I gotta get these boys on a feeding schedule...you see right now I'm up till about 2 or 3am and sleep until about noon most days (ahh summer)...I'll be in school soon and I have to learn to get up in the mornings (two mornings I have to be up at 6:30 am...ewww)...the totally worst part of this all is that I'm going to have to learn to stay asleep after the boyfriend crawls into bed at 3 or 4am...this is gonna be fun! (probably more so for him :p) Of course all of this "helps" with my own darn problems in life...but that's ok....

Hmm I suppose the noon feeding is going to be the most difficult...since I have the "privelege" of having all midday classes...actually if it wasn't for Fridays I could do noon-1pm feeding everyday....dinner is easy....breakfast is too (I probably should just get used to being up at 6:30ish 7 days a week)....ugh this means I have to structure my own eating too bah!

Lol maybe *I* need a nutrition thread for myself now....:p

Megan

dtbmnec
August 26th, 2006, 06:35 PM
Well I am now instituting a food regimine...:s they aren't gonna like this...I've locked them all in different rooms for 15 minutes and when time's up they aren't goign to get food....

Pawz is out here in the main area....Leo in the bedroom....Dart in the bathroom....

Pawz hasn't eaten anything....he wants wet food but I can't give it to him...

Oh I'm such a horrible person for this...but they're gonna have to get used to it....

Megan

vfrohloff
August 26th, 2006, 07:19 PM
Are you sure the ingredients you have listed for the Eagle Pack isn't for the dry food? I don't feed the Eagle Pack dry because of the corn and the sneaky way they list the corn. I have one can left of the Eagle Pack canned, it is the chicken and lamb formula. It's ingredients are:

Chicken, chicken broth, chicken liver, lamb, rolled oats, dried egg product, carrots, peas, potatoes, guar gum, dried brewers yeast, cranberry powder, flax seed, dried kelp, choline chloride, vitamins (vitamin E, A, D3, B12 supplements, thiamine mononitrate, niacin, d-calcium pantothenate, pyridoxine hydrochloride, riboflavin supplement, folic acid, biotin), minerals (ferrous sulfate, zinc oxide, copper proteinate, manganous sulfate, potassium iodide, sodium selenite), potassium chloride, carrageenan, taurine, salt, yucca schidigera extract

The only thing I don't really like about it is the salt but I don't feed the Eagle Pack every day so I figure it's probably ok. I alternate it with Wellness, but they all really go nuts over the Eagle Pack so if you have picky eaters you may want to give it a try. My guys won't touch the Felidae canned, and they're not crazy about the Merrick either.

dtbmnec
August 26th, 2006, 10:15 PM
Rescues would take the canned food I didn't need/cats won't eat?

At least if I'm spending the money it can go to a good cause...

Megan

chico2
August 27th, 2006, 06:38 AM
Rainbow,yes I have different brands of canned in my cupboards.
Anything from cheap,"not-good-for-cats":confused: ,Fancy Feast,to expensive Merricks,Mother Hubbards.
Every time I go to my favorite Ren's Pet Depot,I pick up some different cans,or a small bag of new dry food to try.
Unfortunately they seem to favor Fancy Feast and that's ok with me,my 3 cats before these 3,also grew up on different foods(in those days not expensive food) and all lived to a ripe old age.
I am thinking like a human and I would hate to eat the same all the time,my cats have had no ill effects from all the different foods and my cats are 11,8 and 4 yrs old.

vfrohloff
August 27th, 2006, 08:39 AM
I'm sure rescues would be more than happy to take whatever your guys won't eat. When I first started feeding canned to my guys I just bought one or two cans of each food, that way I wasn't stuck with a whole case of something they didn't like. It's a little more expensive to buy it by the can, but cheaper in the long run because now I only buy cases of the ones they like.

dtbmnec
August 27th, 2006, 09:03 AM
Well its day 2 of the new feeding schedule...

Pawz has barely eaten anything because he won't eat his own dry food (he wants the wet) but I can't have him eat the wet since I'm trying to figure out if THAT's the food that's causing the diarrhea.

Leo all but attacked the wet food but left the dry. He's still working on his last can of Authority. I"ll have to get him some other food for the interim since he won't touch the Performatrin.

Dart's been meowing in the bathroom the entire time (a whole ten minutes at this point) and hasn't really eaten any of his own food. He doesn't like it anymore and wants OUR food. Not gonna happen. (I do realise that this little guy might not be with us too much longer but it'll be good training for him since I doubt rescue/spca people free feed like Becky's been trying to do.)

I'm not so mean yet that I won't give them extra chances to eat (say in a few hours) but they gotta get used to this.

Boyfriend's getting mad at all the meowing but well they gotta learn...and well its not my fault...:p

Megan

P.S. When they all meow it breaks my heart....least no one decided to climb up my leg this time....:rolleyes:

les
August 27th, 2006, 09:18 AM
Megan, just wanted to let you know that I have found Ryan's Pet Foods in Burlington to have really good prices on wet and dry food for dogs and cats. The Merrick there is much cheaper then it is at Pet Value (at least the Pet Value near me!)

I actually drive from Grimsby into Burlington to get pet food ;) I try to get enough for a month but I never seem too! LOL (Not that it's THAT far but considering there are 2 pet stores within 2 minutes of me and I drive about 30)

The Ryan's there also carries good food. I was talking to the owner one day and he actually did alot of research and decided to only carry better food and to phase out the junkier ones. They have: merrick, solid gold, nature's variety, canadae (sorry, that's all I can think of right now)

So, if you have a car, I'd really consider checking that out =)

dtbmnec
August 27th, 2006, 09:21 AM
Megan, just wanted to let you know that I have found Ryan's Pet Foods in Burlington to have really good prices on wet and dry food for dogs and cats. The Merrick there is much cheaper then it is at Pet Value (at least the Pet Value near me!)

I actually drive from Grimsby into Burlington to get pet food ;) I try to get enough for a month but I never seem too! LOL (Not that it's THAT far but considering there are 2 pet stores within 2 minutes of me and I drive about 30)

The Ryan's there also carries good food. I was talking to the owner one day and he actually did alot of research and decided to only carry better food and to phase out the junkier ones. They have: merrick, solid gold, nature's variety, canadae (sorry, that's all I can think of right now)

So, if you have a car, I'd really consider checking that out =)

Yeh lack of car....:( (like I need a car on top of everythign else to worry about)...the boyfriend wants a motorcycle...but no car....:sad:

Megan

rainbow
August 27th, 2006, 11:49 AM
Yeh lack of car.... (like I need a car on top of everythign else to worry about)...the boyfriend wants a motorcycle...but no car....


Tell the BF...No. How can you take the kitties to the vet on a motorcycle? :crazy:

dtbmnec
August 27th, 2006, 12:36 PM
Tell the BF...No. How can you take the kitties to the vet on a motorcycle? :crazy:

Easy...make them run behind us of course :p...maybe have them ride on the handlebars?

:D JOKING! lol

Megan

rainbow
August 27th, 2006, 01:02 PM
Yeah, or else, maybe you could get one of those little sidecars that you can attach to the motorcycle. :D

dtbmnec
August 27th, 2006, 05:19 PM
Yeah, or else, maybe you could get one of those little sidecars that you can attach to the motorcycle. :D


:offtopic: Funny thing....lol It wasn't a motorcycle but it was a bike and this guy had his dog in the sidecar...it was really kind of cool too! Big dog.

Megan

rainbow
August 27th, 2006, 05:35 PM
I've seen that too. A while ago hubby and I were in the Canadian Tire parking lot and this big macho guy with a big bushy beard rode in on his motorcycle with a little pug strapped on behind him. :eek: