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looking for reputable schnoodle breeder

ruba
August 9th, 2006, 09:14 PM
Im looking for a reputable Schnoodle breeder in bc or if not in canada. THX!!!

Puppyluv
August 9th, 2006, 09:16 PM
alas, a "reputable schnoodle breeder" is an oxymoron. ALL schnauzer-poodle "breeders" are BYB's.

technodoll
August 9th, 2006, 09:16 PM
well... petfinder and rescues and shelters and spca's are a great place to start... thousands of schnoodles there looking for a home... they must have come from someplace :frustrated:

ruba
August 9th, 2006, 09:40 PM
i have looked hard to find a dog at all the shelters in my area but no luck. thx

technodoll
August 9th, 2006, 09:44 PM
where are you located? we can help you! :)

ruba
August 9th, 2006, 09:45 PM
nanaimo bc

LavenderRott
August 9th, 2006, 09:47 PM
Why a "schnoodle"?

heidiho
August 9th, 2006, 09:47 PM
double post

LavenderRott
August 9th, 2006, 09:48 PM
double post


We know, Heidi. I am sure that the moderators will fix it.

Puppyluv
August 9th, 2006, 09:50 PM
I don't know what he's mixed with, but is he ever a cutie:
http://search.petfinder.com/petnote/displaypet.cgi?petid=6763274

heidiho
August 9th, 2006, 09:52 PM
Ok Lavender Rott,thanks For Your Input

ruba
August 9th, 2006, 09:53 PM
well i am looking for a smaller lap dog that could jog with me and a dog that is less likely to bother me with allergies. I kinda like its apperance to :)

Puppyluv
August 9th, 2006, 09:55 PM
Is there a reason you want a schnauzer-poodle mix in particular?

There are many poodle crosses and schnauzer crosses on petfinder, but often, they don't know the second breed.

ruba
August 9th, 2006, 09:55 PM
thx puppy luv but it says hes not good with children and i have a little girl

Puppyluv
August 9th, 2006, 09:59 PM
thats a helpful thing to know! any cats or other dogs? Is there a particular reason you want a schnauzer-poodle cross in particular? oh just saw your response to that q.
well, a lap dog may not be the best jogging partner, also, I'm guessing you were thinking miniature poodle/miniature schnauzer, not standard poodle/giant schnauzer, right?
In terms of allergies, you may want to read this: http://www.pets.ca/forum/showthread.php?t=74&highlight=hypo

ruba
August 9th, 2006, 09:59 PM
i ve looked through pet finder and there isn't anything near me that is close to what im looking for

ruba
August 9th, 2006, 10:01 PM
well i am looking for a smaller lap dog that could jog with me and a dog that is less likely to bother me with allergies. I kinda like its apperance to :)

technodoll
August 9th, 2006, 10:02 PM
maybe you will find your dog here: http://www.poomixrescue.com/

if your home is the perfect one for one of these lovebugs, often transport can be arranged! so many sad faces looking for a 2nd chance... please don't pay an unscrupulous person who breeds for profit a dime for a mixed dog... save a life instead, if you can :love:

ruba
August 9th, 2006, 10:12 PM
thx tecno doll

technodoll
August 9th, 2006, 10:14 PM
:fingerscr you will find what you're looking for... you can google "nanaimo dog rescue" or "shelter" or along those lines, i'm sure you will find alot of dogs up for adoption who would fit what you are looking for... good luck! :dog:

LavenderRott
August 9th, 2006, 10:22 PM
well i am looking for a smaller lap dog that could jog with me and a dog that is less likely to bother me with allergies. I kinda like its apperance to :)

Poodles, bichons, yorkies are three breeds that come to mind that are easier on allergies then most breeds. You will find that most of your "oodle" mixes are not. As a matter of fact, most "oodles" that find their way into shelters or rescue groups are turned over because someone is allergic to them.

Bichons are pretty good for what you are looking for. Not to small to jog with you (unless you are training for a triathalon! :eek: ) yet small enough to curl up with you while you watch a movie or read a good book.

Mom_Of_Two_Dogs
August 9th, 2006, 10:57 PM
There is no such a thing as a reputable breeder for "Schnoodles" or other designer "breeds."

http://www.petfinder.org

Just keep looking. If you do find someone on there, many of the rescues and shelters on that site will have transport help. I would also second the poomixrescue site :)

Kerrye
August 10th, 2006, 07:24 AM
Hi
Continue to scan Petfinder.com for a small dog. I found my dog from this website. He is (I think) a poodle-schnauser cross. I didnt really care what he was. They have all kinds of small dogs looking for homes. Please try this route before paying to have someone breed more puppies. He is an amazing little dog and I am so glad I have him.

OntarioGreys
August 10th, 2006, 07:13 PM
I can understand the reasons that many are recommending adopting from a shelter, many of the mixes in the shelters the breed is unknown and they have to guess at the mix or even if pure, and it may not guarantee you a dog that is hypoallergic. Some may say it is not a big deal just pop and allergy pill, that is one thing if you already have a dog and wish to keep it, it is another matter when you already know you have allergies, some of the effects of allergy meds is abnormal liver function, headache, urinary problems, balding, heart problems, nervousness, hyperkinsea etc.

In the US most allergy meds are by prescription only whereas here in Canada we can by them off the shelf and I beleive that is one reason people think them to be totally harmless, and some have have not been on the market long enough or there are no long term studies to learn what the effects are.

So if you are going to get a dog, best to go with a known purebred that is not going cause problems, rather than a mix that may cause problems
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If a shelter/rescue is willing to let you spend sufficient time with a dog or take it home for a day or 2 to be sure it is not going to cause allergic reactions that is fine, or if they have a papered purebred so you know it will not cause problems, a poodle mix does not guaranteed an allergy free dog and many of these so called designer allergy free dogs are going to shelters because the claims of being hypoallergic are proving false

Your other option is to go thru a purebred breeder, most responsible breeders breed for show but not every pup in a litter is show quality those that are not are sold as pets with a neuter contract, if things don't work out the breeder want you returning the pup to him, the responsible breeder does not add to the problems of unwanted dogs in shelters.

CyberKitten
August 10th, 2006, 10:55 PM
Schnoodles of course are not purebred - are one of those trendy mixes. Your best bet is a poodle or a small dog like that. Even with that though, there is no such entity as a hypoallergenic dog. I know the back yard breeders of schoodles and cockapoos and other mixes or mutts that are called designer breeds sometimes adverize them as such and for the life of me, do not understand how they get away with it. But alas, they do - nobetter biz bureau seems to care they are dealing with living beings here!!!

Abd no reputable allergist would recommend any breed of dog. There are a plethora of things one can do - my brother is allergic to dogs and has 2, a lassa appsa and a chocolate lab tho he has had the lab the longest. He does take medication - the allergy occured after he had the dog and no way would he ever consider any other solution. I do think the tried and true allergy meds - like benadryl which alas has too many negative side effects (it HAS been studied widely which may be why we know this) tho claritin seems not too bad but since it has not been around as long, studies on its efficacy or side effects long term are few and far between) are better than the new expensive ones. I admit to taking claritin - spaingly - and just recently due to an allergy. But I worry about the side effects. On the positive side, when you check the Canadian database we haveand also the databse we keep for the CMA (Cdn Med Assn), there are few reported incidents of adverse effects. (which is more than I can say for some of the others or some of the more heavily promoted supposefly safe antibiotics). (I have treasted at least 5 young children now who have developed aplastic anemia after a course of zithromax. This isnot of course a scientific sample and could be a coincidence but I am not the only oncologist to experience this.) I do think zith works well foir adults in very serious respiratory illnesses caused by a bacteria resistant to the old standbys but I am not all convinced it is safe for all children. (Obviously, some seem to do OK with it and infectious disease specialists, one of whom is our former Dean of Medicine) are attempting to find out why.

Anyone interested in Big Pharma (from a US perspective but some of it applies to Canada) should read Marcia Angell's book!

As for your schoodle,I would look at a shelter or seek a poodle cross of some kind. But there is no easy way to deal with allergies and pets - we just manage them, hopefully sans meds!! (no carpets, washing the pet often, not allowing the opet to sleep with you tho I still allow my cacts - 2 of whom are Sphynx - to sleep with me.)

Good luck!

Brandy101bbb
August 19th, 2006, 12:53 PM
It is so not true that there are no reputable breeders of oodles! Some people don't what a purebreed dog, my vet said that oddles tend to be less aggressive to allergies, they tend to shed less or not at all, and they tend to be healthier because the only genetic problems have to be shared by both poodle and the other purebreed. People have some problem with mixed breed dogs, but my friends, friend has a goldendoodle and he is awesome, does'nt shed is a wonderful family dog and she is happy that hes a mix. I am not sure why everyone is so against mix breeding dogs! Just make sure to check into the breeder, go there and check it out, have the pup vet checked right away, as with any new dog I would have it blood tested for genetic problems!

Puppyluv
August 19th, 2006, 12:59 PM
It is so not true that there are no reputable breeders of oodles! Some people don't what a purebreed dog, my vet said that oddles tend to be less aggressive to allergies, they tend to shed less or not at all, and they tend to be healthier because the only genetic problems have to be shared by both poodle and the other purebreed. People have some problem with mixed breed dogs, but my friends, friend has a goldendoodle and he is awesome, does'nt shed is a wonderful family dog and she is happy that hes a mix. I am not sure why everyone is so against mix breeding dogs! Just make sure to check into the breeder, go there and check it out, have the pup vet checked right away, as with any new dog I would have it blood tested for genetic problems!
Brandy, you have A LOT to learn.:rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Brandy101bbb
August 19th, 2006, 02:59 PM
How do you figure I have a lot to learn you know nothing about me, for your info I use to foster small dogs before I had children, I did that for years, and then decided after my kids that I did'nt want to foster anymore and so I know a TON about dogs especially the small breeds. I have checked into the oodles and talked to two seperate vets about them I have bought 4 diffrent books and read them I have also researched on teh web about them, as long as the breeder is clean and really cares for there dogs and there wellbeing, there is nothing wrong with an oodle, maybe YOU have a lot to learn, before you open your mouth maybe you should do some research!

technodoll
August 19th, 2006, 03:56 PM
yeah... like buy the Oodle calendar for your wall :D

White Wolf
August 19th, 2006, 04:04 PM
Please keep this thread civil. Rudeness will not be tolerated and the thread will be closed.

erykah1310
August 19th, 2006, 04:34 PM
I am not sure why everyone is so against mix breeding dogs! Just make sure to check into the breeder, go there and check it out, have the pup vet checked right away, as with any new dog I would have it blood tested for genetic problems!

:confused: Everyone is NOT against mixed breed dogs!! The fact of the matter is that when someone breeds ANY dogs. FOR ANY REASON other than hoping to produce exceptional show quality or work quality pups. THEY ARE BYB's!!

I have a mixes for pets and wouldnt want it any other way HOWEVER , I am NOT going to pay thousands of dollars for them. I will go to a shelter or rescue group, foster for a while and see if the dog fits my lifestyle and then adopt.

As far as you having it blood tested for genetic problems... seriously what are they going to find out??? It is a long and hard process to ENSURE that your pups have the minimal chance of getting any inherited problems. Many many years of breeding THE BEST TO THE BEST.

Back on topic however.

Ruba, keep looking around, take your time and perhaps go on a waiting list. there is no need to rush into it. your perfect pet will be just around the corner in no time.!
Good luck.

LavenderRott
August 19th, 2006, 05:35 PM
as with any new dog I would have it blood tested for genetic problems!


Hip, elbow, heart and eye problems can not be blood tested for.

Good luck.

Prin
August 19th, 2006, 05:37 PM
There are DNA tests to check some problems, but I highly doubt a mutt breeder in it for profit will 'waste' money on expensive DNA tests.:sad:

Brandy101bbb
August 19th, 2006, 10:07 PM
I don't want to start this argument up again because I am soooo past it, but I would myself have the dog tested... Any animal purebreed or not coming from the best breeder can fall ill at any time with a disease, cancer, hip dysplasia etc. You take that chance no matter what its like having a child you don't know if they will get sick or hurt, but you take that chance. Just because the animal may get a disease does'nt make you love it any less, it does'nt amke you not wnatto take the chance and bring it home. My cats have been sick for 12 weeks and they came from a very well known breeder but I still love them and have done everything to fix there problem and I think getting a doodle is a perfectly fine idea, because even if my doodle has a problem I will make sure to try and fix it. I just thinks its everyones own opinion on dogs. Some like um some hate them, but I hope you find what you are looking for!

Prin
August 19th, 2006, 10:10 PM
Good breeders have pedigrees with full histories of diseases, do genetic testing to verify it all and breed accordingly. They don't leave it up to chance.