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Food ideas for an old fart

Puppyluv
July 29th, 2006, 10:17 AM
This is about my parents' dog, a 10 yo Groenendale. Ok... so 10 years isn't that old, but she's showing her age.. Her trainer and I have been trying to convice her to switch to raw, but she's just not ready, for a couple of reasons, one of which is that she (the dog) will soon be travelling between Calgary and Toronto fairly often to be a TV star! (:fingerscr as long as the show exists) Anyways.. we have managed to convince her to switch to a better kibble... Mia (the doggy) has some allergy issues.. actual A LOT of allergy issues. She's really starting to slow down, so my mom first tried her on Solid Gold Holistique Blendz. She likes it ok... but not great. The thing is, she would only eat it if she could pick up a mouthful, carry it elsewhere, spit it out on the floor and eat it from there. Now, Layla did this with raw, and I know many other dogs do, but I have never heard of it with kibble. Any thoughts?
She has to have fish, venison, duck (and maybe bison, i don't know) she's crazy alergic to everything else. She was on a vegetarian diet for a while, bit she didn't like it much either. Someone reccomended Evo to her, saying that even though its one of Mia's allergen-meats, she might be ok, because it's really high quality.. sounds like faulty reasoning to me... if you're allergic to poultry, it's not just KFC you can't eat, you can't eat the braised squab at Toque either. (sorry.. gluttonous montreal reference) Anyways.. any ideas for a VERY allergic, and slightly picky, 10 yo, slowing down, aging dog?

Gratuitous picture included:

http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i234/rebcca85/mimi.jpg

mastifflover
July 29th, 2006, 11:30 AM
No suggestions but what a beauty she is.

jesse's mommy
July 29th, 2006, 01:05 PM
The thing is, she would only eat it if she could pick up a mouthful, carry it elsewhere, spit it out on the floor and eat it from there.

Jesse does this. Drives me nuts because I have to shampoo my carpets a few times a week because we mix canned and dry Merrick for her. She loves it, she just sometimes eats from the bowl and other times from the floor. :frustrated:

Anyway, no suggestions either, but she is beautiful.

Prin
July 29th, 2006, 03:51 PM
I don't know many doggies who like the holistique blendz one... It's super grainy and low protein.. Is she allergic to grains? Can she have beef?

If grains are an issue and beef isn't, maybe try Barking At the Moon (http://www.solidgoldhealth.com/products/showproduct.php?id=81&code=120).. It's one of the high protein ones...

Another one to try, if they have Timberwolf Organics (www.timberwolforganics.com) anywhere near them, is the Ocean Blue. It's just fish, potatoes and sea weed.
Ingredients:
Low Ash White Fish Meal, Salmon, Potatoes, Sardine/Mackerel/Anchovy/Tuna Oils, Kelp, Alfalfa Leaf, Potassium Chloride, Carrot, Watercress, Spinach, Celery, Parsley, Fennel Seed, Blueberries, Cranberries, Pears, Figs, Thyme, Anise Seed, Ground Cinnamon Bark, Fenugreek, Garlic Pieces, Sunflower Seeds, Sesame Seeds, Apples, Taurine, Spirulina, Choline Chloride, Lecithin, Probiotics: (Lactobacillus Acidophilus, Lactobacillus Casei, Lactobacillus Lactis, Bacillus Bifidum, Streptococcus Diacetilactis, Bacillus Subtillus), Taurine, Mixed Tocopherols (a source of vitamin E), Lysine, Zinc Proteinate, Iron Proteinate, Manganese Proteinate, Thiamine, Methionine, Carnitine, Niacin, Vitamin A Supplement, Calcium Pantothenate, Riboflavin Supplement, Vitamin B12 Supplement, Iodine Proteinate, Vitamin D3 Supplement, Biotin, Folic Acid, Pyridoxine (a source of vitamin B6), Copper Proteinate, Selenium Proteinate, Cobalt Proteinate, Papain, Yucca Schidigera Extract

If she can have grains, there's always Just a Wee Bit from solid gold or Wolf King (as she's getting older, maybe Wolf King would be better since it's lower cal).
http://www.solidgoldhealth.com/products/showproduct.php?id=68&code=140
http://www.solidgoldhealth.com/products/showproduct.php?id=62&code=170

And then there's DVP Natural balance... http://www.naturalbalanceinc.com/dogformulas/home.html
They have a few that might be ok. The sweet potato and fish, the venison and rice or potato and duck.

Then there's the Wellness Simple solutions:
http://www.omhpet.com/dogs/simple_food_venison.html
http://www.omhpet.com/dogs/simple_food_duck.html

Aside from those, Merrick has a few dry ones (might be a bit grainier) with venison or beef.

Hope that helps.:shrug:

rainbow
July 29th, 2006, 05:03 PM
Awww....she's not an old fart at all. She looks very intelligent. What's the TV show?

I was going to suggest the TWO Ocean Blue and DVP ones but Prin beat me to it. ;)

Puppyluv
July 29th, 2006, 11:39 PM
Thanks guys. I'm 99% sure she's fine with grains, but she can't have beef, chicken, lamb or pork. She had an actual allergy test, and she is fully alergic to these, as well as dairy. She loses all of her fur on her face, ears, paws and rump.... :sad:.. I will pass these ideas along to my mom. And I'll find out the name of the tv show too.

mastifflover
July 30th, 2006, 08:05 AM
I would go try venison or bison if not seafood. I had a dog (shar-pei) that was allergic to chicken and beef but did great with the Potato and Fish she also liked the venison but I found the fish worked better for her all round especially her skin and eyes. She was also a big fan of sushi is left alone on a plate. Is the dog working with a dog wrangler from Calgary if so do you know who?

OntarioGreys
July 30th, 2006, 11:11 AM
http://www.naturalbalanceinc.com/dogformulas/PandD.html

http://www.naturalbalanceinc.com/dogformulas/SPFish.html

http://www.naturalbalanceinc.com/dogformulas/VenDog.html

I
http://www.eaglepack.com/pages/ep_fish_oatmeal.html


http://www.naturapet.com/display.php?d=product-detail&pxsl=%2F%2Fproduct%5B@id%3D%271326%27%5D

Wellness
http://www.omhpet.com/dogs/wellness_detail.asp?pCode=dryDogSup5MixSwtPot

meb999
July 30th, 2006, 11:44 AM
if you want to compare most of these foods side-by-side : http://www.pets.ca/forum/showthread.php?t=28957

Puppyluv
July 30th, 2006, 01:12 PM
Yes, I saw that meb, thank you!
I've looked at all the links before, and again now, but they can only mean so much to me. I think I'm going to reccomend my mom not do evo, and try ocean blue.

Umm "dog wrangler"? not really..... at least I don't think so, what exactly is a dog wrangler????

mastifflover
July 30th, 2006, 03:06 PM
They are the handlers on a film set they usually work for the trainers. They are behind the scenes giving the animal signals etc.

Puppyluv
July 30th, 2006, 03:28 PM
ahhhhh ok, I just couldn't get cowboys out of my head.:p No, no wranglers per se. She'll be with her trainer the entire time, so he'll be doing it all.

chico2
July 30th, 2006, 03:38 PM
I have never heard of a Groenendale before:confused: she is really beautiful:dog:

Puppyluv
July 30th, 2006, 04:01 PM
Thanks chico! A Groenendael is commonly reffered to as a Belgian Sheepdog, but it is not the only variety, and can be a little confusing when you just say "Belgian". Most parts of the world call it a Groenendael, but NA doesn't usually. (The others are Trevuren, Malinois, and laekenois)

Prin
July 31st, 2006, 12:21 AM
You have to give her another option with the Ocean Blue in case they don't have it around their area... (Timberwolf doesn't sell much in Canada yet).

Puppyluv
July 31st, 2006, 07:09 AM
Well the website lists 14 stores in Calgary that sells it (C'mon, Alberta is litterally the States anyways ;)) So hopefully one will.

rainbow
July 31st, 2006, 03:08 PM
C'mon, Alberta is litterally the States anyways

Yeah, it's just like oil-rich Texas. :D

Did you find out the TV show yet?

Puppyluv
August 1st, 2006, 12:17 AM
Yeah, it's just like oil-rich Texas. :D

Did you find out the TV show yet?

Not yet, my parents are on a week-long heli-hike trip, but they get back tomorrow night, so I'll ask my mom then.

Puppyluv
August 22nd, 2006, 08:06 PM
Well the Old Fart is on Evo now, and loves it. Eats it like she hasn't eaten in days, and has happy poops alreadyhttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v514/ichthys_/poo.gif

Oh and the TV show, I asked, and forgot, so I will have to ask again...

Prin
August 22nd, 2006, 08:08 PM
cool. Evo is low in fast fiber, so that's probably good for her old digestive system (slows it down).

rainbow
August 22nd, 2006, 10:01 PM
The only thing happy about that poop plop is the smile on its face. :D

Puppyluv
August 22nd, 2006, 10:09 PM
The only thing happy about that poop plop is the smile on its face. :D

Yeah, I wouldn't be too pleased if I had to pick that up.... looks a little goopy:yuck:

Puppyluv
September 1st, 2006, 12:43 PM
Well, I spoke too soon. She won't touch the Evo anymore. Today she got so mad at it, she kicked her water and food dishes over so that they spilled all over the place and stalked off... what an attitude:rolleyes:
She's been shaking her head like crazy, and can't stop itching....it looks like it's time to find a new food:(

Prin
September 1st, 2006, 02:16 PM
So no more chicken then. I'd stay away from poultry all together for the next food.:shrug:

Puppyluv
September 1st, 2006, 02:46 PM
Yeah, my mom and I were talking about it, and she might try to go back to venison, which she was on as a pup, and was fine on it.

Puppyluv
September 1st, 2006, 02:50 PM
Oh, sorry, I never specified which Evo she was on.. it was the "Red Meat" one :
Red Meat (http://www.naturapet.com/display.php?d=product-detail&pxsl=%2F%2Fproduct%5B%40id%3D%271404%27%5D) SO it's not poultry, it's beef and lamb baaaaaaa