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Can you help - my pomeraniam is in agony and we can't find out why??

uiaman
May 1st, 2006, 06:00 AM
Thanks in advance, this is breaking our hearts.

Our little pom is screaming out in agony and we can't tell why, we're helpless. If he lays still he is sometimes ok then he will start all over again with a high pitched scream.

He is 7 now and usually he screams like this if he caught his leg or a ligament on something, or we accidentally stepped on his foot, he would then lick the affected area and the screaming would stop in no time. Now when he screams he looks directly at one of us as though he hasn't a clue whats going on.

We have taken him to the vets twice and on the first occasion it was apparently his swollen prostate glands. This was dismissed on the second occasion as a natural occurance that would not affect him, besides we kind of thought he would lick them if that was the problem.

2 days ago we went to the vets and he actually screamed in agony while we were there and when he was being checked. The vet then kept him in for a while, drugged him, and carried out several x-rays. Everything looked normal. He thinks it could be something with his back, or perhaps his legs although we think its probably his back as he would normally lick his legs otherwise.

We have been subscribed anti-flamatory tablets and I do not know what these are for. He was fine for a day and a half after the second time he seen the vets, perhaps because of the injection I don't know. We have been advised to rest him and not to take him on long walks. It was when we put the lead on this morning that the screaming started again, and continues as I type :-(

(This is my first post on this forums so apologies if I am breaking the rules with any of the above)

chico2
May 1st, 2006, 07:28 AM
Hi and welcome!
I believe having an animal in such obvious pain would break anyones heart:sad:
It's unbelievable to me,any vet would let him suffer in this way.
I can offer no advice,other than going to yet another vet and not give up,something is very wrong with your little Pom.

OntarioGreys
May 1st, 2006, 07:44 AM
Is the lead attached to his collar ? if so may be a cervical spine problem

Anti-inflammatories are used to reduce swelling , the shot may have been prednisone which can be used to reduce pain and swelling, or some other injectable pain killer


Since he is in such extreme pain, my suggestion would be to contact your vet and see if s/he can refer you to a veterinary college or teaching hospital, they would have a greater range of diagnostic equipment there so they should be able to determine exactly where the pain is , what is exactly wrong and then figure out the best way to treat

uiaman
May 1st, 2006, 09:06 AM
Thanks OntarioGreys and Chico2.:)

Yes his lead was attached to his collar and the vet suggested we take this off and replace with a harness. He is also taken on rather long walks sometimes 3-4 miles but its speculation as to what is the cause from our end.

Since making my first post some hours ago he has been resting and occasionally changing position or moving to the other side of the room without a murmer. He has even taken a stroll to the garden and done the necessary! (Its amazing how things you take for granted one day become important the next)

Your suggestion about the veterinary college is a good one and I will indeed ask our vet tomorrow morning. For now though hes going to have more rest than ill insomniac.

uiaman
May 2nd, 2006, 02:42 AM
Poor Smokey looked fine yet again this morning, but hes back to screaming out loud on and off. He has started to shake now and appears to be crying making eye contact with us..he rarely does this. :-(

joeysmama
May 2nd, 2006, 07:20 AM
Please take him to an emergency clinic or hospital. Your vet is missing something terribly wrong here.

Prayers for him to get well !!:fingerscr

chico2
May 2nd, 2006, 07:45 AM
That goes double for me:fingerscr :fingerscr
Please insist they help him,that you cannot bear seeing him in such pain:sad:
I know,were it one of my cats,it would be unbearble.:sad:

Luba
May 2nd, 2006, 10:58 AM
Oh yes please please take him 'now' to an emergency clinic where they have access to specialists and appropriate equipment.

The poor darling!

SnowDancer
May 2nd, 2006, 12:00 PM
Ask your vet if the spinal X-Ray showed any swelling of the discs in your dog's back or neck - check both. If they are calcified they could well be pressing down on the spinal column and nerves - the pressing on the nerves will cause the screaming in agony. The pressure on the spinal column could result in paralysis. I have been through each situation - the pressure on the spinal nerves making it very difficult to lift my dog to carry to vet due to extreme pain - we had to carry him - each taking the corners of a blanket - fortunately at the time we lived within walking distance of our vet. Please take your pup back to vet as soon as possible.

rainbow
May 2nd, 2006, 05:19 PM
Sorry to hear that Smokey is in such pain. I do hope you have taken him back to the vet (preferably a different one) by now. :pawprint:

uiaman
May 4th, 2006, 04:37 AM
Update on Smokey..a good update..

Obviously its too early to be too optimistic, but, he wasn't in pain yesterday or today so far. When he was screaming he was wagging his tale and the last time he did it we wondered what he would do if we sat down next to him i.e. if his back hurt the last thing he would do is move suddenly. Anyhow he jumped up on us wanting to get closer to our face for some bizarre reason...the pain seemed to come and go but it was not dependent on his position.

Maybe the medicine has kicked in so theres 2 challenges now, firstly that it continues like this...secondly that after the course of medicine is complete he continues to be ok.

We contacted the vet again and nothing seemed broke and he said its best to wait a while and see how the medicine works. I think he was relieved that Smokey wasn't constantly in agony and started talking about headaches, migraines and a recovery period.

Anyhow I will ask him again about the pressure on his spinal column and thanks so much for pointing that out Snowdancer. :-) Thanks to everyone else too, all the comments so far have been great and I'm actually amazed at the empathy people have in this community.

Anyhow I think Smokey wants to say hello soon so watch this space for a piccy and of course will keep this updated with any progress.

Thanks a million everyone!

catsnatcher-CDN
May 4th, 2006, 05:01 AM
That's good news.

Perhaps you should seek out another vet for a second opinion.

uiaman
May 4th, 2006, 05:56 AM
Its a great idea, and believe me my nan lived another 10 years of her life because of a second opinion..but last time we did that the vets said they couldn't do anything as he was under the responsibility of another practice.

I think it was the chip in his back that he scanned, it must have been, it holds all his records etc. They were a bit cheeky on that as I don't think its compulsory in the UK but they convinced my parents that it should be done just in case he is stolen or lost. I think its a conspiracy to prevent fraud in the insurance sector, very cheeky, but who knows whether the chip is causing the problem.

Today he has been as good as gold, trying to stop chasing the birds is giving my mother a full time job (I'm at work).

:usa: :ca: wow am I the only UK member on here??

uiaman
May 14th, 2006, 07:34 AM
Incase anyone is interested, our little Pom is doing great now. We took him for a walk for the first time in weeks yesterday and hes loving his new harness!

So a big :thumbs up to everyone who offered advice and support.

chico2
May 14th, 2006, 07:41 AM
Uiaman,that is wonderful news:thumbs up thank's for keeping us updated:love: