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Dog obsessed with drinking water - Answered by Dr. Van Lienden

buffytwin
April 28th, 2006, 08:17 AM
I have a 10 month old Boxer who is absolutely obsessed with water, is this normal? Or do you think something is wrong? He drinks it as if he's been in a dessert for a week without any! If you gave him a bucket full of it he would drink and drink until its gone. We don't let him drink a lot at a time b/c of Bloat, so we're constantly stopping him. But even when we bath him he freaks b/c he's just trying to drink the water coming out of the shower head, seems a bit over the top. If he see's a puddle he'll lick it bone dry if you let him. He tries to drink the water in our backyard where our fence posts are! He's so obsessed with it, we take it away from him after a certain time at night just so he's not peeing all day the next day and he constantly walks around where it would be looking for it... He is crated all day while we're at work, and we have a friend the checks on him in the middle of the day. We don't put water in his crate b/c we've tried everything and no matter what he tips it over and just makes a mess, so we gave up on that, we literally tried everything, plus he pee's in his crate too, probably b/c all the water he drinks. The lady that checks on him gives him a very small amount, again b/c we don't want him peeing in the afternoon, which he does anyway. Does any of this sound normal to anyone, or think something may be wrong with him? Other then this he's completely fine, seems very healthy, very active and just a wonderful dog, but I'm wondering if we should take him to the vet or if some dogs just love water that much? Thanks!

Lucky Rescue
April 28th, 2006, 08:51 AM
Insatiable thirst is NOT normal, is a symptom of some underlying problem and can have a number of causes - diabetes insipidus, Cushing's disease (pituitary tumours) etc.

You need to have this thoroughly checked out asap.

jawert1
April 28th, 2006, 10:19 AM
My pointer is the same - it's not normal, you need to take your pup in for an ACTH test, as well as the usual battery of hormone testing (pituitary, diabetes, etc). Good luck

Beaglemom
April 28th, 2006, 11:56 AM
I'm going to agree with the others. Your pup needs to see a vet asap. There could be so many different things causing his thirst. The one that really jumps out at me is Diabetes. Cushings also has thirst as a symptom, but I would rule out diabetes first as cushingoid dogs are normally middle aged to senior. Your vet would run a couple of tests, normally a complete blood test and a urinalysis and would take it from there depending on the results.

rainbow
April 28th, 2006, 12:09 PM
I agree with everyone as this is definitely not normal. Please take your dog to the vet ASAP and let us know the results.:pawprint:

buffytwin
May 2nd, 2006, 07:24 AM
Thanks for the advice guys, I did exactly what you said and took him to the vet asap! We're just waiting for the test results, they said they'll have them today and will call me, so I'll let you know what happens. They ran a couple tests to see if there is anything wrong, they said this test will show if there is anything wrong anywhere! So I will let you know the outcome! Thanks again for the replies!

buffytwin
May 4th, 2006, 11:19 AM
We got the results from his blood work yesterday and it all came back fine, so that is great news! They are still running the urine tests, they do half in the vet and send half to a lab, the half they ran tests on in the vet he said looks like he may have crystals in his urine. He's going to call me today with the lab results and let me know:) We went out lastnight and bought him a huge XPen to run around in rather then keeping him in his crate while we're at work, so now he can run around and play and has lots of space:) And this way he's still safe and not destroying our house, lol

buffytwin
May 4th, 2006, 01:15 PM
We just heard back from the vet and said everything came back fine. He said there is a tiny tiny amount of crystal in his urine but nothing to be concerned about. He said a dog should drink approx. 1 litre of water a day. B/c he doesn't have water in the day while we're at work maybe it just seems like he drinks a lot. Either way now that we have the pen for him he'll have a nice bowl of water there all the time for him to drink! Im just very happy he's fine and nothing is wrong, always better to be safe then sorry!

Lucky Rescue
May 4th, 2006, 01:52 PM
To find out how much your dog is really drinking, do what I did: Measure out the water into a measuring cup, then at the end of 12 hours see how much is left. If you aren't going to home, use a gallon bucket and fill it.

When I did this, I found out my dog was drinking 12 cups of water in that time period. WAY too much but I wouldn't have known had I not measured it.

She also did obsessive things like your dog, such as trying to lick rainwater from the leaves outside.

buffytwin
May 5th, 2006, 02:31 PM
And was there anything wrong with your dog? We did measure it the day before we took him to the vet, he told us to, and he drank just under 8 cups in total and that was on a Sunday so we were home all day to measure and watch. So really it wasn't as much as we thought. But a good idea to do while we're not home just to see. I'm thinking now that he has water all the time he'll spread it out more and not drink as much all at once. I think that might have been the problem. We'll soon tell. But good to know that he has a clean bill of health, what a releif!

petdr
May 9th, 2006, 05:46 AM
There are a number of reasons for this presentation. A urinalysis and complete blood profile will help begin to answer the cause.

My rule-outs would be: diabetes insipidus,diabetes mellitus, psycogenic thirst that has led to medullary wash-out, liver shunt, renal dysplasia, polycystic kidney disease, nephroblastoma, infectious nephritis and the list goes on.

Do not be surprised if your veterinarian orders abdominal x-ray films, abdominal ultrasound, urine culture and various hormonal assays to further refine the diagnostic work-up.

Sorry that is not an easy fix, and the reason is that many serious problems can present just like this, but the astute owner and veterinarian will avoid quessing, thereby guaranteeing the best outcome possible.

Dr. Van Lienden

Dr. Raymond Van Lienden DVM
The Animal Clinic of Clifton
12702 Chapel Road, Clifton
Virginia, U.S.A. 20124
703-802-0490

oreokitty
July 31st, 2006, 05:07 PM
It isn't normal and I would get it checked out ASAP! Kohl our three year old Doberman has been obsessed with water since day one and now three years old and he has been diognossed with kidney failure. Please, please take your dog in to see your vet and DEMAND that they look for kidney failure. They might not want to because your puppy is so young but learn from my mistake and demand it.

OntarioGreys
August 1st, 2006, 04:46 AM
There are the odd dogs that do binge drink that have nothing medically wrong with them.

He is crated all day while we're at work, and we have a friend the checks on him in the middle of the day. We don't put water in his crate b/c we've tried everything and no matter what he tips it over and just makes a mess, so we gave up on that, we literally tried everything, plus he pee's in his crate too,

It could be part of the reason he is binge drinking, as he wants to tank up knowing it is not always available to him and can be contributing to the cyrstal you are seeing, I never withhold water from my dogs unless absolutely necessary for surgery There are a couple ways to handle water in a crate, you can buy buckets that clip in the crate or you can use a water bottle like those used for rabbits. once he realizes that water is always available for him he may actually start slowing down. Normally if there are crystals in the urine there is usually bacteria as well(UTI) which can cause increased water consumption, sometimes it does always show up as a high count on the urine test, I had a foster that was like that she was on an antibiotic(cephalexin) for spay surgery that had opened up, but she was peeing more than normal, her urine test did not register hjigh for bacteria, but the fact she was peeing every couple of hours did indicate that she had a UTI so the vet prescribed a different antibiotic(baytril) which is a bit stronger, within 3 days , there was a major improvement.

With crystals in the urine increased water consumption is needed to help flush the the crystals out if they remain inside the can bind together and become bladder or kidney stones.

Kristin7
August 1st, 2006, 06:51 AM
I had a dog a few years ago who I thought drank a lot, and told my vet that, who said that is normal for a dog. Well, it's really not. Finally they checked her out more thoroughly when she started peeing her bed at night. Turns out she had chronic kidney disease. They tested her blood as well as gave an abdominal ultrasound to diagnose. Poor girl was only with me for a couple years, but I made sure she had fun in her short life.

oreokitty
August 1st, 2006, 09:46 AM
Kristin7 what did your dog pass away from? Kohl is the same way he LOVES water and we were told the same thing that it was normal. It ISN'T!

Prin
August 1st, 2006, 11:40 AM
I think it was kidney failure.:sad:

Kristin7
August 1st, 2006, 12:24 PM
It's kind of a long story. The vet's weren't sure, but she was diagnosed with pancreatitis, which effectively destroyed the rest of her poorly functioning kidneys. She had just started taking medication (I forget the name) for incontinence, as she had been peeing more often in her bed at night, and a side effect was high blood pressure. The day after she started taking it, I had to bring her to the ER, and she never came back. She did rally a bit, but her kidneys weren't functioning well, plus, her blood pressure never came down and she was vomiting a lot, and when she went back downhill, I had to let her go. :sad: While she was there, they checked her blood and kidneys and said she probably wouldn't have lived another year (she was almost 3 when she died). It sounds like you were given the same line I was, oreokitty. To anyone w/ a dog who drinks a lot, oreokitty is right, insist on blood tests, etc, to make sure the dog doesn't have kidney disease!! Even puppies can have this. I was told my dog was probably born with the condition, because they were so deteriorated in such a young dog. Your dog needs special food and care and can lead a fairly normal, although shortened life. I have a lot of guilt from that, because i didn't insist on the tests earlier, and agreed to have her take the medication that seemed to have triggered her fast decline. Plus, when she was a pup, she also took medication for mange which probably didn't help her kidneys either.

Prin
August 1st, 2006, 12:27 PM
Aww, I'm so sorry.:sad: :grouphug:

Kristin7
August 1st, 2006, 12:33 PM
oh, my dog's symptoms, besides drinking a lot, were not obvious and she appeared the picture of health to those who did not know her condition. Over time she did develop ulcers (watch for blood in the stool) and I had to give her daily antacids, she was somewhat underweight as she did not eat much, she had a sensitive stomach, but otherwise, seemed very normal and active. The vet only took notice after my dog started peeing in her sleep, and when i brought in a urine sample for testing, the vet noticed right away something was wrong, as her urine was not very yellow and almost like water. Your dog's urine should be yellow, not very pale or very dark, or something is wrong. I'm very sorry to hear about your dog's kidney failure, oreokitty.

oreokitty
August 1st, 2006, 05:40 PM
Kristin7

It sounds exactly like what Kohl has. I didn't know I just thought that Kohl had training problem with peeing all over the house. The thing is that we brought Kohl for testing only three months ago and found nothing. Why would it go from good to so bad so quick? They think he was born with this also. Nothing we did (thank goodness but still second guessing myself) Kohl is only three. I pray that the vet is wrong because Kohl is like my son. Sorry can't finish this post because I am at work and I can't cry at work...

Sorry for hijacking this post..

But I would seriously have your dog checked for Kidney disease because it happens in puppies too. Even if it isn't in your dogs lines (like mine) it can still be there.

Kristin7
August 2nd, 2006, 08:45 AM
oreokitty,

I totally understand how you feel! I was and am still heartbroken over this. I'm sure it is nothing you did! It is strange that his tests were fine three months ago. Did your vet have an explanation for that? My dog was tested at a year and a half the first time and did have abnormal kidney values then (BUN, creatinine). I'm not sure if testing for those values is routine or have to be requested. What were the tests? Could one of these sets of test have been wrong? Maybe try a different vet and see what they say. If there is a good vet school near you, you could also have them take a look. I hope the diagnosis was wrong :fingerscr

Mahealani770
August 2nd, 2006, 01:55 PM
Well, Buffytwin hasn't been on here since May, so I wonder how her dog is doing?

Tiggerclr
October 29th, 2006, 12:53 PM
hello! I found this forum looking for help for my Great Dane, who has begun drinking about 3 gallons of water a day and stopped eating. He was also vomiting quite a bit and needed to go every 3 hours. Baron is 7 1/2 years old and used to be able to wait long periods of time between walkings, so it's been quite an adjustment!

He has been to the vet and all the ultrasounds, bloodwork, urine culture, lymph node aspiration, have all come out basically normal. The only two things that were odd were that one of his liver values was elevated and his potassium was quite low.

My next step is to a diagnostician to see if they need to do a water-deprivation test. What does this mean?

deltadawgs
January 7th, 2007, 05:53 PM
Our new puppy, Fielder, is only six months old. He's been a big water drinker since day one, but it's intensified lately to the point where he will drink out of our backyard pond until we stop him. He's also peeing all over the house (walking and peeing). We've taken him to the vet who said something about hypogenic dyspepsia and not to worry. After reading these posts, though, I'm very worried!

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boomdia
January 21st, 2007, 09:06 PM
Tiggerclr,,,,, just to mention this,,,, two years ago my dog, collie/golden retriever cross, quit eating one day. after a few days, we knew it wasn't just being silly, so at the vets we started the tests,,,,, needless to say i had to soften food, and make her eat some. she lost 9 lbs in 3 weeks, with really no results from tests. friends had some similar problem and found out their dog had Addisons disease,,,,, controlled with meds. i asked to have this test done,,,,,$180.00 for test. but they admitted her in morning, took a blood test,,,, injected her with a serum to activate gland that produces hormores associated with brain activity telling them they are hungry... then another blood test,,,, then home at noon . she came in the house,,, straight to her food container and scratched for food. i fed her,,, same at suppertime,,, she ate and before bed she wanted more.... next day breakfast was good then the injection started to wear off and back to not wanting to eat again... SO vet gave me meds for Addisons which after about 4 weeks i weened her off them like vet said to ,,,, been fine ever since. Now she seems to be drinking water a lot,,,, after 3 weeks of this, back to vet last Sat. jan 13/07 at which time she said Taylor looks in great health,,, little overweight but no signs of a problem... but she too blood for testing and monday i am to collect urine and stool samples for testing also. Vet did say her eyes were very very slightly cloudy, but not overly, or like a catarac problem. I will collect the urine from her first pee in morning as that will not be diluted with all the water she drinks,,,, so outside at about 5:30 am with my rubbermaid containers. will update. and thanks so much for letting me join this forum,,, i found it very interesting, and lots of caring people of pets too.[/SIZE][/SIZE][/SIZE][/SIZE]

boomdia
January 31st, 2007, 09:02 AM
Update for Taylor drinking too much water.... after blood tests, urine tests,,,and ACTH test they did find that her thyroid was just a little low but her urine is not concentrated. The Vet has not asked for a 'water consumption ' activity for 3 - 5 days. Then she will instruct me on a ' water deprivation activity' but have to be very careful with that one so no dehydration occurs.
The Vet also suggested that with these results maybe an internist for dogs be called in to help diagnose also. She said Taylor, who is 9, part collie part golden retriever, may have Diabetes Insipidus.
will update on this....
has anyone been through this?

Hagbard Celine
January 31st, 2007, 10:20 AM
Hi all, this is my first post. My boxer pup, Izzy, is approximately four months old and has recently begun drinking excessively. Today is Wednesday and I took her to the vet to get her third wave of vaccinations on Saturday. Following the vaccinations she has had unquenchable thirst. When water is put in front of her she drinks and drinks until it is gone and then she begs for more. I have the same problems at buffytwin with her tummy becoming bloated due to the amount of water in it and then she pees every 10 minutes. I'm going insane and not getting anything done outside of watching her like a hawk all the time. I've called and spoken with a four-year vet student at the University of Auburn who said it didn't sound like an emergency and everyone I've spoken to tells me to "give her the water if she's asking for it." I do of course, but the amount she's drinking is not normal. To my untrained eye it seems like her body is not absorbing any of the water and it's just going right through her. Is there a dietary or electrolyte fix for this? I figured she was just acting weird from getting her vaccines, but vaccine grogginess usually only lasts for a day or two at most. She's been doing this for four days now! Help!

OntarioGreys
January 31st, 2007, 10:57 AM
Make an appointment with the vet and take along a urine sample, could be something minor like a UTI could be something a lot more serious

Hagbard Celine
February 5th, 2007, 11:25 AM
The vet said that a measure of her intestine felt swollen and/or firmer than usual. He also said she has a mild case of puppy vaginitis. He gave me pills to regulate her intestinal contractions as well as some antibiotic pills to stave-off infections. He told me not to feed her for 24 hours and to regulate her water intake to a normal amount by metering it out throughout the day. The vet visit was Saturday morning. It's now Monday but I haven't seen a change. I called the vet this morning and he said to call him back this afternoon if there was still no change. I'm going to mention the possibility of diabetes millitus to him. She's exhibiting a lot of the symptoms associated with that disease (weight loss, extreme thirst/urination, loss of energy) however, she also seems to have lost her appetite, which is not necessarily associated with canine diabetes. I'm at a loss. She's starting to get very skinny but she doesn't act like she's in any pain. She keeps urinating in her crate even when the door is open and she is able to walk out of it to pee. I'm worried that she has a serious problem and I cannot afford to pay high vet bills. I'm just a kid right out of college!

Echo
February 5th, 2007, 10:50 PM
I have a 2 1/2 year old boxer and I have been dealing with this same issue for a few weeks. She just recently started drinking double the water she usually drinks. I have taken her to the vet and they have done both urine and blood tests, which all came back good. Along with the excess drinking, she has started peeing in her crate when I leave. I have no idea what to do. :confused:

Yonna 'n Tzaar
February 22nd, 2007, 09:46 AM
i have a one year old dobermann male who was rehomed to us (and i know his prev owner personally)two months ago, and has really settled in well.
when we brought him home he wa rather slim and we have worked hard ever since to get him to gain weight and to build muscles.
he weighed about 28 kilos when we got him and three weeks ago when we did the mandatory ad/hd x-ray they clocked him in at amazing 35,4 kilos..
a week after that all of a sudden he stopped eating, i thought it was because there might be some bitch in heat in the area..no such luck..
i fiddled and desperatly tried to get him to eat but all he wanted to do was drink...and drink...and drink... about 7-9 LITERS per day ....and no matter what i tried to offer him he didnt wanna eat... not even grinded meat or beef or...well anything...no dogfood brand or variations was untried..
had to seriously cut back on the trainingsessions...
i kept calling the vet ever day (started the second day when he was excessivly drinking) and was yet again put off with a well he drinks so there should be no problem..
i finally went to the vet and refused to leave before they had a look at him... he was by then down to 27 kilos (a loss of more than 30 % of his weight in two and a half week)and shaking like a rattler. severly dehydrated and shaking unable to walk it became even more acute since his problems escalated while we were waiting...
now nthree days on dripbag and several tests later all they can say for sure is what it is NOT... they have test for diabethics,addisons,cushings,kidney problems,etc...
what they could see was that he had very very low levels of natrium and kalium in his blood.and a little bit of urea... noting else seems wrong except for the fact that no matter how much drop (NaCl) they give him his levels doesnt raise and his urine doesnt seem to get much dilluted... now they are sorta giving up...with lets try cortisone so i reach ouut and ask is there anyone out there who has any idea or has experienced anything similar???
Note: kidney x-ray and ultrasound is done,ACTH test is done,and bloodworks aswell...

Rocky4me
March 5th, 2007, 10:59 AM
This is my first time on this forum. Our 9 yr old boxer has started drinking an excess amount of water also. We also took him to the vet where they did 2 urinalysis and two different blood tests. All came back OK. The only thing they saw was that his Valley Fever seems to be coming back ever so slightly. He has been on anitbiotics for 1 week now and I do not see any improvement. His appitite is still good, however the vet would like him to lose anywhere from 15 - 20 lbs. He had Valley Fever when he was younger and was antibiotics for a couple of years. I do not remember this being a sympton back then.

What do you think? The vet wants to wait a couple more weeks before he examines him again to give the anitbiotic time in his system.

Yonna 'n Tzaar
March 5th, 2007, 03:14 PM
i am sad to say i had to let the vet put Tzaar to sleep they are now performing a autopsy to determin what it was that he was suffring from.
they say addissons ,but yet they say it is not quite..
we had him at te animal hospital for a week and they had him on triple dropbags cause they had tried with less and thn his levels of natrium and kalium didnt elevate even the slightest..
they said on friday that with cortisone he should be fine and sent him home... that evening he was relativly okey... saturday he began to get tired and just wanted to sleep..a 200 meter walk took so much energy of him that he was rembling badly, and he didnt want to eat..with a bit of persuation we managed to get the meds into him...and on sunday... we persuaded him to take the meds again... and got his faVOUITE FOOD to make him eat some... he reluctantly ate some... and an hour later he puked everythingup... meds from friday undigested same with saturday and sundays meds...
we went to the vet again and even tho he had been drinking he was yet again severly dehydrated... he wasnt getting any better... he could hardly walk becaue he was shaking ... i had to carry him...so we decided to do the most humane thing and let him go to dogheaven... because only time he was somewhat okey was when he was on dropbags..and we cant keep him o that for ever... it was the most horryfying experience in my whole life... from perfectly healthy to deadly sick in less than two weeks...
i hope no dog ever have to experience what he went tru...
and you people who have dogs that start acting strange and drink loADS of water...please please go to a larger vetrinary center because many times the smaller vetstations dont have the resources to check and diagnose more than the most common problems...
wish you all well.. in time maby ill get a new dog...but for now im glad when i can get thru the day..
/Yonna grieving Tzaar

JamesWilkinson
April 15th, 2007, 09:39 AM
Hello:

I have a 4 year old mixed breed Black Chow Chow / Samoyed named "Hoshi Kita" and she has recently started drinking, we think, more water than normal.

Historically Speaking...
We moved in mid-December from a condo in Montreal, where she did not have an outdoor space - beyond the balcony that overlooked the street, to a home in Sorel-Tracy that is fairly secluded in woods and is teeming with birds, squirrels, chipmunks, marmots and we've even seen one coyote!

Today...
Kita is outside more often and is more active - in the morning she goes for an hour long walk in the woods - pointing out pheasants, etc. To me, this is idyllic for her. However, she will at times, pace back and forth from one window to another throughout the house, looking outside - no doubt for evidence of some "Varmit Trespasser" and we think this might be providing a slight elevation in her stress levels - but isn't that natural? Dogs are natural born hunters, right? Especially, Chow Chows. It would be expected that she be excited to see all "this" and be excited and somewhat protective of "Kita's Park", right?

Being as how, we've only ever lived in the city and this is our first experience in the country with a dog (and a cat, too! Lord Almighty lest I forget to mention Miss "Boo Boo Bucle" Simone), we're not sure if she's drinking due to stress, a urinary-something, or is she too hot and just needs to cool down?

I've seen people write in this thread that their dog is drinking excessively. How do you "know"? What is excessive drinking for a 70lbs to 80lbs dog with a double layer of fur that is now, as is normal, falling out and making our floors look like the Wild West with tumbleweeds of fur blowing everywhere... Kita-Kat is probably drinking around 8-12 cups of water a day. Is that excessive?

What we're seeing also is that she will drink her daily does of water most often, close to - or just as, she goes to bed. Same with eating. She eats mainly at night, hardly touching her food at all during the day. She does eat and she does drink but is any of this "normal"? She doesn't urinate excessively - that is normal too. Longer squats, for sure but again, this is to be expected, right?

Hoshi Kita's active, playful, emotional, cute-as-can-be and pretty! Oh so pretty! Those big brown eyes!

(She's watching me write this, of course.)

Any thoughts?

Cheers!
James

Yonna 'n Tzaar
April 19th, 2007, 03:26 AM
I am sad to announce that Tzaar did not make it... after two weeks in intensive care at the vetrinary hospial he hadnt gotten any better and even tho they had him on intravenuos fluid he became more and more dehydrated... and was so weak he couldnt even walk 20 meters without shaking like a leaf... so we had to take the devastating decision to put him to sleep.

wicked
October 26th, 2007, 12:59 PM
I have a 4 month old male great dane and he just recently started drinking water like it was going out of style..is this something normal? I have taken up all water so he doesn't get any after 7pm but he still pees everywhere:wall:.. I thought at first he was just thirsty from being outside but they have water out there so this couldn't be it... and I have had a problem with him not able to hold his pee.. but he seems to be intentionally do it like he thinks its funny...Ugghhh can anyone help... Any suggestions???:pray:

sugarcatmom
October 26th, 2007, 01:17 PM
I have a 4 month old male great dane and he just recently started drinking water like it was going out of style..is this something normal? I have taken up all water so he doesn't get any after 7pm but he still pees everywhere:wall:.. I thought at first he was just thirsty from being outside but they have water out there so this couldn't be it... and I have had a problem with him not able to hold his pee.. but he seems to be intentionally do it like he thinks its funny...Ugghhh can anyone help... Any suggestions???:pray:

Please take your dog to the vet for blood work and a urinalysis. And DO NOT limit his water intake! The increased water consumption could be a number of things, diabetes for instance, but only a vet can diagnose that.

Shanadog4ever
November 17th, 2007, 10:42 PM
I have an 8 yr old Boxer who I adopted from a rescue last year. Joe drinks excessively and was lethargic when he first arrived. I just figured he was old and not quite used to me. He never seem interested in play for very long. Mostly just slept. Our vet said he was a healthy dog who was showing signs of arthritis. After about 9 months or so Joe began to lose his hair along either side of his body. On the next visit to the Vet they ran tests of his thyroid. Joe now takes meds twice a day for his thyroid. His hair grew back with in weeks of the medication. He's a whole new dog. You would never guess he's an old man except for the gray beard. He loves to jump and play. So if you have an excessily thristy dog check on his/her thyroid.

Buddy72
January 28th, 2008, 02:50 AM
Buddy is my 2 year old yellow Labrador. I have read through all these posts and I'm still not convinced that Buddy is suffering from some problem other than he's mental. I have had Buddy since he was 8 weeks old. He is house broken and has been kennel trained from the day he came through the front door. When we leave the house he is placed in a kennel. When we have company over he is placed in a kennel. He is as healthy as a horse. He has regular Vet check ups and the Vet always says Buddy is in fine shape.
Buddy Drinks Water until he barfs it up. We have managed his water since birth. That was part of the way he was house broken. We never left water out for him to drink whenever he wants. Other wise he would be peeing all over the place. He gets plenty of water throughout the day. I wonder what is wrong with him? He has had blood tests...all normal. Well I'm at a loss..:shrug:

tenn9fan
September 22nd, 2008, 11:50 AM
For those of you who do want to leave water for their dog while they are in their crate/kennel, but do not want to use a bowl due to spillage, I can tell you what we use. And, it helps out at other times with our boxer that likes to drink all the time like the other dogs on the post.

We use a hamster water bottle. The kind that hangs on the cage and has a little ball on the end. They lick the end with the ball and water is released without spilling, albeit kind of slowly. But, the dogs we use it with are two small dachshunds.

We put water in a bowl for them while they are not in their kennel, but sometimes they prefer to drink from the hamster feeder. And, at night when we don't want any water out for our boxer to drink (he will drink any water he finds), this allows them to still get a drink of water if they need to. The boxer has never drank from the hamster feeder. He is so much bigger, the little amount of water that comes out per like would probably just make him mad.

timmycan
October 20th, 2008, 06:44 AM
hi all,
i have a 7-year-old maltese. i've read all the posts and almost all of them are so similar to timmy's problem. you wouldn't believe how much water he drinks, especially in the morning.

we've had all those tests for diabetis, kidney, well nothing abnormal. he just keeps drinking and drinking. he's a smart dog and he feels ashamed when he asks for water, that just worries me so much. i am so at a loss and i really don't know what do to. we've visited almost 10 vets but they just drive me mad, saying it is normal.

if it is not an illness, not that he just likes drinking either, what is it? how can a dog drink half of his total weight in one day?

Patches&Dozer
October 25th, 2008, 12:44 AM
This is my first time on this website, I was looking to see how to better manage my dog patches' diabetes. She has been my best friend for the past 13+ years, so I typed in my dog drinks too much water and found this thread. We went through all kinds of tests and many mis-diagnosis, all of the cures for what wasn't the problem just seemed to make things worse, the last one, pills for incontinance almost cost Patches her life. but I luckily stopped giving her the medicine and when I took her back her blood sugar levels were so high they kept her 2 days and told me that she would probably not make it, the next day I went in to pick her up. She came home with instructions on how to give her shots twice a day, that was more than a year ago. I will not take her back to that Vet. It was by the way one of the largest Vet Clinics in Portland. But unfortunatly lately her insulin levels are off much more often, and she is going blind, but she makes it very clear that she is not ready to go yet. I am hoping that someone might have some advise. I'm not ready to loose my best friend.

hazelrunpack
October 25th, 2008, 01:00 AM
Welcome to both of you!

if it is not an illness, not that he just likes drinking either, what is it? how can a dog drink half of his total weight in one day?

If all the physical tests are coming back normal, could it be behavioral? We have a dog that will drink just for the sake of drinking. All the tests came back normal. So we manage it by letting him take as much as he wants during the day, and limiting his access to water after his evening meals (one small bowl and that's it). During the day he can go out as often as he needs to, but we're once again sleeping through the night! :thumbs up Ask your vet if he thinks a schedule like that might be helpful for Timmy.


unfortunatly lately her insulin levels are off much more often, and she is going blind, but she makes it very clear that she is not ready to go yet. I am hoping that someone might have some advise. I'm not ready to loose my best friend.

Patches&Dozer, this being such an old thread, you might want to start a new thread in the health forum. :o More people will see it. Use a descriptive title that mentions insulin levels and diabetes :thumbs up There are quite a few members who have been managing their pets' diabetes for years and I'm sure there will be more than one with some advice!

Reno and Giz
December 14th, 2008, 12:51 AM
My vet has just diagnosed my lab with generally being very healthy except he drinks too much water. His kidneys are not concentrating his urine. After several sets of blood, urine and xray tests, he was diagnosed with healthy kidneys but after monitoring we realized he drinks way too much water. (We had a kiddie pool all summer which may have caused this problem to start). As best as I can understand, his kidneys are healthy but not being used because of the large amount of water he is drinking. We always knew our lab would overeat if his food was not monitored but now we have to regulate his water intake as well. Based on his weight, the vet has calculated he needs just under 1 litre water per day. We now give him water 4 times a day. We live in a cold climate so right now the weather is not a factor. I am not sure what we will do when the hot summer days come. As this problem was new to me I thought I would share it as its sounds like others may experience this with their dog. This diagnosis was from the vet after numerous tests ruling out diabetes, etc.

TheBabe
February 21st, 2009, 08:58 PM
So I'll be the third boxer owner who's dog drinks water obsessivly. (11 years old) I've taken her to the vet, got blood and urine tests to check for issues. (cushing/kidney/infection etc) All came back clear.

The drinking water doesn't bother me, it's the urination and in HUGE quantities all over my carpets and floors every other day that have me considering some perminant solutions to this problem.

She's on the Protin now, and as of 3 weeks still peeing on my floor. I let her out 9-12 times per day to pee, and still she pees on my floor. It's unreal. I even tried the doggie diapers, she pees right through them and onto my floor.

So now I'm trying to put water down on a schedule. Honestly between the diapers/pills/vetbills/carpet cleaning/paper towels and extreme aggravition I'm feeling, I'm starting to loose hope.

This has been going on about 4 months, and the vet doesn't know what to do either.
Any tips? :fingerscr

corky/max
February 22nd, 2009, 12:21 AM
So I'll be the third boxer owner who's dog drinks water obsessivly. (11 years old) I've taken her to the vet, got blood and urine tests to check for issues. (cushing/kidney/infection etc) All came back clear.

The drinking water doesn't bother me, it's the urination and in HUGE quantities all over my carpets and floors every other day that have me considering some perminant solutions to this problem.

She's on the Protin now, and as of 3 weeks still peeing on my floor. I let her out 9-12 times per day to pee, and still she pees on my floor. It's unreal. I even tried the doggie diapers, she pees right through them and onto my floor.

So now I'm trying to put water down on a schedule. Honestly between the diapers/pills/vetbills/carpet cleaning/paper towels and extreme aggravition I'm feeling, I'm starting to loose hope.

This has been going on about 4 months, and the vet doesn't know what to do either.
Any tips? :fingerscr
Please get your dog off of PROIN. Please go over to http://www.i-love-dogs.com/forums and read all postings (18 replies). Look under Dog Health and Nutrition--click on it and then find: Is Your Dog on Proin (sorry, but you have it spelled wrong and this is what your dog is on!) and click on that. And if that isn't enough--put Proin/side effects in dogs or something on that order in your browser---and please hurry!

Anniepink1
March 8th, 2009, 04:29 PM
I have a german/shepard akita male. He is 13 1/2 years old. My other child, my best friend. He has been drinking alot of water especially at night about 8:30-12:30, drinking, going out, sometimes until 1:30 am sometimes 2:00 am. I also took him to vet, urine tests showed severe urine infection, i have had him on antibotic for 3 weeks. No better, actually worse. When he first started antibotic it helped for few days then became more & more of drinking water & going out. Every night he pee's in his sleep. 2 big floods. I have bought 3 different types of diaper/guards and male wraps but none work. First one was too small. Second one the guard was made more for a female dog. Now the 3rd one i bought last night fits but is very constricting. He fell after i put it on him. You see i should mention my dog has a spinal disease. No its not the same as hip displasia. It is called degenerative myelopathy. It eventually paralysis dog- they cant walk any more. There is no cure for it. Sometimes dogs get it at a slow pace-over the years but then some dogs, it hits them in months time. My dog started with it about 3 years ago-it wasnt that bad-he could walk and run-but his hind legs would give out sometimes and his back feet would drag a little bit. But now the past 4 months it really is hitting him. He falls alot, his feet curl under and make it hard to walk for few seconds. Ive read about it and it can make them loose there bowl and urinary use when the disease is really hitting them. My vet knows this but hasnt mentioned if thats the cause-instead he says we have to let him finish the antibotic, then for one week he has to be off and we'll do another urine cullture. My dog is generally feeling ok during the day, except day before yesterday, i tryed him on one of those urine leaking pills. What a mistake..i thought he was going to get a heart attack. Then last night or i should say this morning 4;30 am he woke me up breathing hard. He had peed on rug and when i did let him out again, he fell several times. Going out -then coming in. Today he feels bad, i know he does. I know when he does do accidents he puts his head down-like im sorry mommy-dont be mad at me..but i never yell at him-never had to his entire life, he has been such a gift to me--my best friend, i know his days are numbered now, i'm crying as i type..only people that are really close to their dogs can know how i feel. I am a stay at home mom, and this dog has always been a big part of my daily living. Everyone that knows him knew how he was so close to me--i use to have to take him in bathroom with me when i showered-cause he'd cry if i didnt-things like that. Well if anyone out there has any suggestions-or has ever been this route-or even a few nice words would help-thanks for listening-annie

boost and noob
March 13th, 2009, 11:18 PM
okay i find this almost hard to believe that you guys would jump to conclusions like this and automatically assume that there is something seriously wrong with her puppy.

i have 2 pit puppies right now, similar to boxers, one is 7months the other is 4months.. before my 4month old (female) i had a 6 week old, she died of parvo, then a 5 1/2 week old a month later, also died of parvo a month after getting her...she was obsessed with wather..(btw during all this time I had my 7 month old, i got him first at 6 weeks, then started getting the females, then we moved on after that, learned a bit about parvo and how to get rid of it, then got a 3month old, she was adored water, but she was rather skiddish, and we were afraid she wud get scared when she was older and bite a child so we found a good home for her, the next one was the same was also 3months and loved water but skiddish.. our final one, turned out to be the most well-behaved and perfect pup ever.. but she also is obsessed with water, and so is my male, who has been since he was a baby baby..

So with my background being stated... I think since they are puppies they just love water, it just needs to be rationed and given to only when you are able to keep a full watch on them. They dont understand when they are full and cant really hold their bladder as well as a 4 year old would be able too..

this is why they tell you to give a cup of food per 10lbs, there is a reason for that, so they dont over eat, do the same with water, and take them outside as soon as they are finished and every15 minutes after that for about an hour. puppies are like children, they have to be watched and be forgiven for mistakes. and with her boxer being 10months.. id consider that still a puppy.. id consider a 2 year old still a puppy...

quit scaring the crap out of people, yes go to the vet if you are really concerned, but dont automatically jump and say your dog is going to die because it drinks to much water.

but if you know your dog and have had it for a long time, and its doing something that isnt normal, take it to the vet. my baby girl was sleeping more than normal and had a runny nose and i knew it wasnt normal, so i called the vet, turns out she had allergies bc of spring...so i gave her a benadryl so if you feel something is wrong, then get help.

WooKeef
November 29th, 2009, 02:08 AM
:)There are a number of reasons for this presentation. A urinalysis and complete blood profile will help begin to answer the cause.

My rule-outs would be: diabetes insipidus,diabetes mellitus, psycogenic thirst that has led to medullary wash-out, liver shunt, renal dysplasia, polycystic kidney disease, nephroblastoma, infectious nephritis and the list goes on.

Do not be surprised if your veterinarian orders abdominal x-ray films, abdominal ultrasound, urine culture and various hormonal assays to further refine the diagnostic work-up.

Sorry that is not an easy fix, and the reason is that many serious problems can present just like this, but the astute owner and veterinarian will avoid quessing, thereby guaranteeing the best outcome possible.

Dr. Van Lienden

Dr. Raymond Van Lienden DVM
The Animal Clinic of Clifton
12702 Chapel Road, Clifton
Virginia, U.S.A. 20124
703-802-0490

I live in Paris, France but am an U.S. Citizen. I have been here about a year and have two dogs (Rat Terriers) The oldest (12 YOA) is also obsessed, as the original poster describes, with drinking water. We took her to the vet, as I feared she may be diabetic. The vet (very expensive) in Paris did all, or most of the test I think you mention above with no luck. She does not have diabeties and her kidneys seem to be functioning fine. No x-rays or scans were done of her though. She seems healthy in every way and very active for a 12 YOA dog. Recently her obsession has gotten so obsessive with drinking water that she goes into the bathroom and tries to lick water out of the shower! she looks for it in the city streets (which worries me very much) and I am starting to think something is wrong with her mind! I am very worried and would like to have further guidance or encouragement.

The OP made me feel justified that I was not obsessing. We give her water and ensure she is not dehydrated, but it is only in small doses and frequently. Should we do this in another way? When she was a pup we tried the water in the kennel and in the bottles but she is way to high strung to deal with that. She gets water everywhere. We kennel our dogs much like the OP only I am not working while in Paris with my husband and she is kenneled much less frequently.

Incidentally, one of the reasons we had grown increasingly concerned was that she would drink water too fast and then vomit is back up almost immediately. We were terribly worried but the Vet here says it is fine and we should only give her small doses.

I appreciate support and input.:):):o

hazelrunpack
November 29th, 2009, 10:27 AM
Has the vet checked for Cushing's, WooKeef? That can also cause excess drinking/urination. Especially in an older dog, we like to rule out everything we can before deciding it's just a behavioral problem.

But if everything has been checked and physically she's fine, than rationing her water is a suitable solution. We have two dogs that can't make it through the night unless we cut off their water supply after 6:30 p.m. The other six have free access to the water but these two have been trained not go to the bowls once they've had their after-dinner drink. They do just fine all night without free access and aren't even particularly thirsty when they get up in the morning (at least, they don't make a beeline for the water bowls :o).

WooKeef
November 29th, 2009, 02:38 PM
Has the vet checked for Cushing's, WooKeef? That can also cause excess drinking/urination. Especially in an older dog, we like to rule out everything we can before deciding it's just a behavioral problem.

But if everything has been checked and physically she's fine, than rationing her water is a suitable solution. We have two dogs that can't make it through the night unless we cut off their water supply after 6:30 p.m. The other six have free access to the water but these two have been trained not go to the bowls once they've had their after-dinner drink. They do just fine all night without free access and aren't even particularly thirsty when they get up in the morning (at least, they don't make a beeline for the water bowls :o).

I have never heard of Cushings..not to say the vet has not ruled it out. It is difficult since I speak limited French and for medical treatments for myself and my pets are in english. Sometimes the translation is off. I will have to look into this.

rainbow
November 29th, 2009, 02:49 PM
You may find some help here ...

http://www.k9cushings.com/forum/

labowner
January 15th, 2010, 09:25 PM
I recently became an owner of an 8 year old lab who has the same problem.

According to his previous owner, this is a psychological issue that he was tested for at the vets many years ago.

I give him water when he eats, and a few other times during the day, but that's it.

He's not crated, he sleeps on the living room floor.

WooKeef
January 16th, 2010, 02:01 AM
After much evaluation I am fairly certain that my dog does not have cushings. I believe it is "manic" as my French vet says, or psychological. I suppose this is a product of her aging...as she is 12 years old.

msullivan
June 21st, 2010, 01:43 PM
I'm curious if the boxer puppy resolved the obsessive drinking. I have a 4 month old bull terrior pup. She is obsessed with both water and food. We have to ration both......otherwise she will gulp down as fast as she can.

She has been to the vet and had many tests to rule out diabetes, etc. She is a healthy pup.

To reduce her possessiveness of food, I have started feeding her half of her food in the bowl, addiing 1/4 more food to the bowl and then the remainder of food is fed to her from my hand. I want her to begin associating people with giving....not taking away food. Its a work in progress.

However, I have not resolved the obsession with water. If it is a rainy day and I take her outside to go to the bathroom, she simply focuses on drinking from the puddles and then she releaves herself ALL over the floor.

clcarlton
February 3rd, 2011, 06:35 PM
I saw on one website that over drinking during the day could be alleviated by using a horse "lick" bottle and a rabbit bottle at night. Does anyone know where I can find a "lick" bottle?

Jpkaplan
March 7th, 2011, 09:48 AM
I recently became an owner of an 8 year old lab who has the same problem.

According to his previous owner, this is a psychological issue that he was tested for at the vets many years ago.

I give him water when he eats, and a few other times during the day, but that's it.

He's not crated, he sleeps on the living room floor.

Lab Owner,

I am very much interested in chatting with you over your lab's psychological issue with water. I believe I have one with the same problem but some feedback from you would be so helpful.

Sarahpocky
February 28th, 2012, 09:22 AM
I have the same problem with my dog too. I have a 15 years old Black Miniature Schnauzer. He had the same exact movement as your dog... So it was time to take the shot for the vaccination so i went and told my vet. They checked up on him and say that he had less then a year to live.... He is now 15years old and still lives but have the same problem... when my vet told me i lost half of my life... this baby of mine has less time to live and i didn't have much time to spend with him because my uncle was fighting cancer... But as days go by he sleeps a lot, drink a lot and some time he runs around like a puppy .... so i was like what in the world was my vet thinking .... my Pocky is still alive after they told me he only have a less then a year to live.... that time i was so stress out my uncle is about to die and now my Pocky is leaving .... i could not stand the pain and sadness.... Sad thing my uncle passed away but thankfully my dog is living more than a year and still lives.... That made up my life so baldy.... still trying to find a cure but i think i'm going to try pedialyte where a lot of site says its good... I can't trust vets anymore because my vet that told me those word was a good vet in USA so the only hope is the internet, talking to the owner of a pet they love and truly understand how they see there own pet suffer and trying to find the cure is the best vet i think i can ever find!!!

DOGGYPACK
October 1st, 2012, 12:15 AM
After a painful registrations and losing my long message, here i go again for the sake of the dogs: IT IS THE FOOD!
Before taking your pet to the vet, give her brown rice and cooked or raw (better) chicken, the appetite will come right away and will drink normally. Try it, it does not matter if for a day has loose stools. She will get well. Comercial dog food is poison has GMO corn and soy, among other poisons. No matter how expenssive the food is, it is unnaturally processed, and it ruins their kidneys, liver and nevous system.
Add to the brown rice and chicken some peas and sweet potato. Trust me, just try it. If this does not work, THEN you take her to the vet. Nature must be the first approach because we are ruining our pet's health as we have ruined ours. Good luck.