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Frenchy
March 17th, 2006, 06:09 PM
I'm posting here because right now,this is a rant.I brought my 10 yr old golden Daisy to the vet this week for check up and vaccins.He found a large bump under her anus,as big as a clementine,a bit bigger than a tangerine.It doesn't look good.He took a sample (actually 3 before he could get one without too much blood in it) it's not a fatty lump.She had a mast cell (cancer) last year and had it removed,went back 2 other times for other bumps to get tested since,fatty lumps.This one is big and hard.I have to wait 2 to 10 days to get the results.Even if it comes back negative,we can't be sure,he explained that the cancer cells can be close to where he took the sample.They will not remove it because it's too close to her anus,it can tear and will never close.That was wenesday evening,I called at 5h00 just in case,the lab called but wants to talk to my vet before sending the results,my vet was off for the day so I have to wait monday.What could that mean?I tought maybe it's not conclusive and they need another sample,but the girl said they wanted to send the results but had to talk to my vet first.My rant is why my Daisy.I got her from the spca 2 years ago,she was 8 yr old and got dump there because she was too old to have puppies,and believe me,she was someone personnal puppy mill,she was all fat and "difformed" from having way too many litters,she had just had one before going to spca and they kept one of her puppies (a female!!) and dumped Daisy.I had her spayed sooo fast!I wished for her many healthy years to come,still hope for it but it looks very bad.I don't want to put her tru chimio,I'm against any treatment that would take away her quality of life.I will have to wait for the results,will probably look for an holistic vet.I feel like my heart is breaking,everytime I look at her I want to cry.She is such a good friend to me,Sam and Bailey are typical male goldens,they want to be pet all the time,they are big babies.But Daisy is more "mature",she is there for me and I know if something would happen to me,she would be the first to try and help me.I give her extra cudles this week,I don't want to loose her.Sorry for the long post,I know you guys here understand and some of you have been there.It's really hard.I just don't want to believe this is hapenning.

BMDLuver
March 17th, 2006, 06:12 PM
Ahhh Frenchy, the worst part is the waiting.. I'll say some prayers that it's not cancer but if it is... and you want to approach it hollistically... Dr. Haltrecht in Dorval is very good. :grouphug:

mesaana
March 17th, 2006, 07:02 PM
Hugs to you and to Daisy! :sad:

I'd just like to say one thing (and if you want more details, you can email me): dogs do not have anywhere near the side-effects that humans get with chemo. Seriously. No nausea, no hairloss... They really get through it much much better than we do. So I would encourage you to not eliminate that idea outright....

First, let's wait and see what the lab says. Then, I think you should maybe talk with a veterinary oncologist (there are a few around) to get a better idea of the prognosis with and without treatment. Then, you can make an informed decision. Just my 2 cents.

Please keep us up to date. I'll keep my fingers crossed for you.

Lyne

Beaglemom
March 17th, 2006, 08:37 PM
Frenchy, I'm so sorry that you and Daisy are going through this. The waiting is the hardest part, the not knowing is very hard. I will keep you and Daisy in my thoughts and prayers. :grouphug:

Prin
March 18th, 2006, 12:14 AM
I'm so sorry. I hope the tests and everything else comes back negative so Daisy can go on living her happy life.:fingerscr :fingerscr :fingerscr

domesticzookeep
March 19th, 2006, 01:57 PM
Frenchy, we are all keeping our fingers crossed for your little baby. :fingerscr

My lab was diagnosed with lymphoma at 3 yrs old after I brought her in for, what I thought, was an anal gland infection / needing them expressed. The wait time for getting the results was the worst - and when my worst fears were confirmed, all I could think about was how/why did this happen. Then my very smart vet redirected me to accepting what I could not change (and likely could never be answered) - and focusing on treatment and rearranging my life to deal with her new 'schedule'.

I agree with mesaana - chemo is much kinder to dogs than humans (having watched both human relatives & my lab go through it). It slowed her down -usually for a day or two after the 'big' treatments, but it was more like having a 7 yr old lab, rather than my highly active 3 yr old.

At all stages of treatment, the bottom line was always to have her maintain a quality of life - and that was something I found really hard to 'define' - but she was my little girl :angel: , and I had to give her every chance I could.

There is also a ton of info (both good & bad) on the internet about other dog owners experience. Also, as mesaana said, there are veterinary oncologist (cancer specialists) around. I was referred to one immediately and she was fantastic! Her knowledge was tenfold of my regular vet when it came to treatment options and side effects. If you don't live close to one, you may be able to find one that is willing to 'consult' long distance on Daisy's condition.

Just remember to a take a deep breath - we're all keeping you & Daisy in our prayers,

C.
:ca:

jesse's mommy
March 19th, 2006, 04:29 PM
Frenchy, you and Daisy are in our prayers.:angel: I hope everything turns out for the best and you both have lots of long happy times ahead of you both. :fingerscr :fingerscr

chico2
March 19th, 2006, 04:43 PM
Franchy,I am so sorry you must be worried sick,Daisy sounds like a wonderful dog and we'll all keep our :fingerscr she'll have a few more happy years with you:love:

Skryker
March 19th, 2006, 06:01 PM
Oh, Frenchy! Good luck to you and Daisy. :grouphug: and :fingerscr .

doggy lover
March 19th, 2006, 06:58 PM
I hate the C word, and lately that is all I hear. In the last 2 years I lost my dog, my Nan and now my hubbies Gran and 2 uncles are dying of cancer. My friend lost her 32 year old brother in law and another friend her 41 year old friend. Its just crazy the amount of times you hear that someone is sick or dying of cancer. I hope you doggy will be ok, I'll keep my :fingerscr and Tucker will keep his:pawprint: 's crossed.

Frenchy
March 20th, 2006, 12:35 PM
Still waiting,but I talked to my vet this morning,he left a message at the lab,I asked him why they want to talk to him before sending the results,he says he doesn't know,it never happened before.Usually they just send it in and that's all.He thinks maybe they found something and can't understand what it is??If it's the case,it's not cancer...All I do is think think think!Maybe it will be something so simple,maybe.Thanks all for your concerns.:pawprint: X

SnowDancer
March 20th, 2006, 01:17 PM
A similar thing happened with one of my dogs - they thought he might have had an anal cancer. Had to wait the weekend, vet finally reached the lab - they wanted the test re-done. Couldn't they have just said that. Turned out not to be cancer - I really hope this is the case with your pup.

mastifflover
March 20th, 2006, 01:26 PM
Oh this is awful. Fingers and paws crossed here for a good result.

Frenchy
March 20th, 2006, 07:27 PM
Thanks to everyone for your support.It is cancer and looks like a very bad one.Sorry if you guys don't understand half of it,I don't know the english terms for everything that my vet explained to me.It's an agressive anal gland tumor that can cause "métastases";when it multiplies and spreads.So tomorrow,Daisy will have her lungs X-rays,it might be there already but I don't think so (my gut tells me no) and she will have a "biochimie" ;another blood test.And I'll go from there,if it's not too advanced,I have a chance of treating her,but not 100%.Like everytime I have news like this,I feel numb and it will take time for me to "get it out",I just hope I'll be alone when it happens.I will keep you posted,it helps talking to you guys about it,thanks for being here.

jesse's mommy
March 20th, 2006, 07:39 PM
Awww Frenchy, I'm so sorry to hear this. It's just awful. I can't even express to you how truly I am sorry. I know you will do everything you can for Daisy. Here's a hug from me...:grouphug:

BMDLuver
March 20th, 2006, 07:40 PM
awww Frenchy, was hoping for better news for you and Daisy. Sorry to hear it's not. Hope that there is a way to give her some comfort and time.

mastifflover
March 20th, 2006, 08:02 PM
Frenchy I am so sorry I was hoping for a better outcome. But lets hope it has not gone much further. I am sure you will do the best for her we will be hoping for the best

mesaana
March 20th, 2006, 09:04 PM
So sorry to hear that. You and Daisy are in my thoughts...

Prin
March 20th, 2006, 10:28 PM
I'm so sorry. That's so sad. We're sending as many big hugs as you need.:sad: :grouphug: :grouphug:

chico2
March 21st, 2006, 07:59 AM
Frenchy,I don't know what to say,other than sorry for you and Daisy:sad:
We know she is in good loving hands,she could not have a better mom:love:
:grouphug:

Beaglemom
March 21st, 2006, 08:29 AM
Frenchy, I'm so very sorry. I know you will do everything in your power to help Daisy. Please keep us updated on Daisy's test results.:grouphug:

RaYne
March 21st, 2006, 08:53 AM
I'm so sorry to hear about Daisy test results. :sad: Paws crossed that it has not spread.

poodletalk
March 21st, 2006, 12:47 PM
Frenchy,

I am so sorry to hear about your precious Daisy-I was hoping for better news.
Let me know if there's anything I can do to help you through this difficult time.

Rick C
March 21st, 2006, 01:55 PM
Sorry to hear that news. Best wishes.

Rick C
www.goldentales.ca

Writing4Fun
March 21st, 2006, 01:57 PM
Oh, Frenchy! You and Daisy are in my thoughts and prayers. :grouphug:

Skryker
March 21st, 2006, 02:21 PM
I'm so sorry it wasn't better news. :sad: . I'll keep you and Daisy in my thoughts and hope for a good outcome. :grouphug:

Bushfire2000
March 21st, 2006, 02:25 PM
Daisy is a special dog and you are a special person for giving her such a good life. All my best and you are also in my prayers.

Frenchy
March 21st, 2006, 07:04 PM
Thanks everyone.I got other results today;blood is #1,x-rays....not sure.They see something dark on her lungs,to make sure,they're sending them to a specialist tomorrow.They think it could be cancer BUT it could be because she is an older dog too.IF it's not cancer,the vet (today I talked with his wife who is also a vet and is more "optomistic") we could maybe talk about an operation!woohoo!!!I will have the results either friday or next monday. The suspense is killing me but at least there is hope!Will keep you guys posted.PAWS X.

Prin
March 21st, 2006, 07:15 PM
Everything is crossed over here. Good luck!:fingerscr :fingerscr :fingerscr :fingerscr :pawprint: :pawprint: :pawprint: :pawprint:

NaNa8
March 21st, 2006, 09:50 PM
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Sorry to hear about the test results. Keeping our fingers crossed that from here on, everything is looking positive.

doggy lover
March 22nd, 2006, 04:32 PM
Sorry to hear that your doggy has cancer hopefully they will be able to do something for her. :sorry:

CyberKitten
March 22nd, 2006, 08:05 PM
I am so very sorry about Daisy but as was mentioned earlier, dogs handle chemo and narcotocs and other treatments so much better than we humans do. They do very well and can live long lives after fighting the disease and miracles do happen - I see it every week with human children and I know dogs and cats who have beaten cancer and are doing extremely well now. There are many resources available online if you are interested - I know I posted them previsouly but they are bookmarked on another computer and I am typing from work.

Good luck!! I hope you can find a protocol that works well for her!!! There are also some amazing new drugs - tho we say amazing because they target the cells and do not kill all the healthy cells in close proximity. That seems to help humans tho sho suffer much more from nausea and other adverse effects than do animals. Cats for example can do well with less pain meds than humans. There is a great web site about a cat with cancer named Punkie Louise. If you type Punkie Louise in one of the search engines like google, you will prob find her.

Bonne chance!!!! :grouphug:

Melei'sMom
March 22nd, 2006, 08:15 PM
all paws and fingers crossed for you and daisy here too. know I am new, but wanted to add my support.:fingerscr :pawprint:

loveyadogs
March 23rd, 2006, 09:46 AM
I too adopted a dog, I was told he was going to be put down, they said he was 5 years old...they said he was healthy.They sold him for 10.70..10.00 plus 70.00 GST...sickening.We got him home, he had to be shaved, he was matted so bad, and lumps on his body! and not fixed.He ended up being ..oh they figure 11 or 12 years old, cancer and was probly a puppymill breeding dog.
we had him a good 11 months and he passed away.
so either the person who dumped him was lying to the rescue place or the rescue place was lying to my hsuband.Vet said no way he was 5 years old.
he was a shih tzu but not pure we dont think.
we never expected that to happen when we adopted him.I would have taken him anyway! but I woud have liked truth upfront!

so we still have coco or wee montreal blizzard of 1997 stray dog and we have bought bazil, who is now almost 7 months old shih tzu.

rainbow
March 23rd, 2006, 01:41 PM
So sorry to hear the bad news. I lost my last two huskies to cancer so I know what you`re going through.:sad: One of them had a four inch tumour removed from his intestines and then his intestines stretched and sewn back together. The vet said his prognosis was 8-10 months but he survived for 20 months. Our fingers and paws are crossed for you too.:fingerscr :pawprint:

Frenchy
March 25th, 2006, 05:50 PM
loveyadogs;I'm really sorry about your dog,I know what you mean when you say you would have adopted him anyway.Daisy was 8 yr old when I got her,she is now 10.I did get the x-rays negative for cancer.Then,the other vet (my vet's wife) told me she would operate to take out the tumour.So,she's saying she would,her husband (my usual vet) says otherwise!I've ask people from the rescue I volunteer for their opinions.Not good.I had my vet faxed all Daisy's results to the rescue vet.I called three times,he's supposed to call me back,I've been waiting since yesterday.All I do is wait,everytime I get an answer,it brings back more questions,more tests!I took the appointment for the surgery,but then I had mixt feelings.It seems like taking chances,witch can end up with bad results.I just don't know....I'm against chemo for animals,and my vet told me that type of cancer doesn't respond well to chemo anyway.So that's out of the question.The waiting part,the different opinions,it's all very nerve wracking.If I get her operated and something would happen,I could never forgive myself.I guess I will base my decision on the third vet's opinion.If he could just call me!

Frenchy
March 25th, 2006, 06:04 PM
In addition to my dog having cancer,it's been 22 years today that I lost my dad to cancer.I was 13 at the time.My dad was only 58.It's not a sad day for me,it's been a long time and I would rather think of happy memories.But,having lost other people to cancer,I'm pretty sick of hearing the word.You would think that in the 2000"s years we would be closer to a cure.:sad:

toby's tracy
March 25th, 2006, 06:09 PM
Frenchy - big hugs for you from me and Toby :grouphug:

chico2
March 26th, 2006, 08:24 AM
Frenchy,I am sorry you and Daisy still don't have any definite answers:sad:
Operation or no operation???
Maybe Daisy,being older,will be happier just being home under your loving care,unless she is suffering pain.
Some vets,I am sorry to say,would operate no matter what the predicted outcome,but how do you know??
Whatever your desicion,it will be based on your own instincts and Daisys wellbeing,quality of life etc..
Hugs to you and Daisy:love:

cpietra16
March 26th, 2006, 08:48 AM
Frenchy....my thoughts are with you and Daisy...a miracle sure would be nice.

jawert1
March 26th, 2006, 10:02 AM
many many hugs to you and Daisy from all of us :grouphug: :grouphug:

mastifflover
March 26th, 2006, 10:24 AM
Frenchy you and only you will have to make the decision for Daisy. But a few things to maybe think about she is an older dog and anesteshia at any age is risky, so will the surgery give her a longer quality life. If it is only a few months why put her through that all the trauma and the recovery. If they think they can give her a lot more time then maybe it is worth the risk. But if she is not in pain and maybe they can manage the cancer and give her quality life maybe a shorter time but happier. I know this is really tough for you and when we are stressed like this sometimes you just need to sit back and try and clear your mind and write down all the positives and all the negatives it may give you a clearer picture. Whatever you decide I am sure it will be with Daisy's best intrests in mind. I hope you and Daisy get better news soon :grouphug: :fingerscr

Prin
March 26th, 2006, 10:35 PM
I'm sorry for the cancer and all the decisions it brings. :sad: Nothing I say will help much, so I'm just sending hugs..:grouphug: :grouphug: :grouphug:

Frenchy
March 27th, 2006, 06:37 PM
I finaly decided to go ahead with the operation.After speaking with the rescue's vet (the one I'm volunteering for,not the vet,I mean the rescue!) He assured me it was a simple operation and nowadays goldens live an average of 13-14 years so it could buy Daisy some time.The only thing is if they screw up,it can lead to fecal incontinence.But every surgery has it's risk.So she will spend 2 days at the vet,operation is april 10.It will be her second operation for cancer in 9 months.It will be her last,if it comes back,I'm not going to fight it.So things are looking up.:fingerscr Thanks everyone for your kind words,it help me a lot.

mesaana
March 27th, 2006, 07:06 PM
I'll be thinking about you and Daisy and keeping my fingers crossed.

jesse's mommy
March 27th, 2006, 07:10 PM
Frenchy you and Daisy are in my prayers. :angel:

mastifflover
March 27th, 2006, 08:04 PM
Frenchy if Daisy has your resolve she will be fine. Fingers and paws crossed that everything goes great. You and Daisy will be in our thoughts

Frenchy
April 14th, 2006, 03:24 PM
Just to let you know that Daisy had her operation last monday and I picked her up Tuesday.EVERYTHING WENT/IS FINE!!!The operation was a success and it was about time,it grew from the size of clementime to the size of an orange in 2 weeks.You would never think she had an operation,she is 100% herself,went back today for them to check if eveything was ok.Stitches are fine,it's all little swollen but that's normal.I'm home today so she is not wearing her cone and being a good girl,no licking whatsoever,I do put compress twice a day and have to put vaseline to keep it "tender".Her but is all shave,sexy Daisy!She did find a way to relieve herself by "scratching" her bum on the carpet,tried to put spandex shorts on her but they didn't last long,they split open after an hour!All she needed was a bra and I could have getting her in a Madonna's lookalike contest!So now my only wish is that there is no more cancer elsewhere.Things are sooo much better this week!:)

rainbow
April 14th, 2006, 03:44 PM
Glad to hear the operation went fine and that Daisy is recovering so well.:thumbs up What a big relief for both of you. We`ll keep our fingers crossed for no recurrences.:fingerscr :fingerscr

Prin
April 14th, 2006, 05:14 PM
Yey!! That's good news!:highfive:

chico2
April 14th, 2006, 05:18 PM
Oh yes,that's wonderful news,keeping my :fingerscr that she'll have many more happy years with you:love:

OntarioGreys
April 14th, 2006, 05:40 PM
That is great news!!!! and this is coming from a person who next month this time will be a 25 year cancer survivor :thumbs up

jesse's mommy
April 14th, 2006, 06:22 PM
That's so wonderful!!!!

cpietra16
April 14th, 2006, 06:58 PM
What fantastic news:D :thumbs up

alajoagra
April 14th, 2006, 07:26 PM
Great news I am so happy for you, i have been watching your posts but have not responded as the subjest hits close to home for me too, I am such a cry baby I have tears in my eyes right now! My father passed of cancer 12-20-05. Right before christmas was really hard, I don't think I really ever mourned it yet either. But anyway enough about me, so glad to see another cancer survivor going strong! You are a fabulous mother! :D

mummummum
April 14th, 2006, 07:33 PM
:grouphug: :grouphug: Atta Grrrl Daisy !!!! So happy for you Frenchy !!!:grouphug: :grouphug:

mesaana
April 14th, 2006, 07:52 PM
Great news!!!

CyberKitten
April 15th, 2006, 02:19 PM
Thx for sharing your wonderful news Frenchie! You are truly a good person to help your beloved pooch this way. I hope she does well from now on. I am sorry to hear about your dad - I am an oncologist who is also coping with my own chemo protocol (and working at the same time) and lost two grandparents to cancer so I know how you feel. Some days I feel our research is making a difference and other days I am ready to scream. But I have also seen many miracles so I always hold out hope for everyone, two legged and four pawed!

Frenchy
April 15th, 2006, 02:53 PM
Daisy and her mom says thanks to everybody!Ontariogreys;congratulation on your 25 yr anniversary:party: ,I'm very happy you could overcome such a terrible disease,survivor you are:thumbs up !Alajoagra,you are not a crybaby,I'm sorry for your loss.I understand what you are going trhu,lost my father to cancer when I was 13 yr old.With time,it's gets less painful,I try to remember only the good times...and take comfort thinking what a great father he was with us,always happy and loving.Some people are not that lucky.:sad:Keep your head up and take care of yourself.

mastifflover
April 15th, 2006, 03:56 PM
Frenchy I am so happy for you and Daisy. I am truly pleased she is feeling so good. Ontariogreys congrats to you, I lost my mom in 89 to the awful c word.

Frenchy
July 24th, 2006, 09:11 PM
Well,it has come back.Only 3 months after her second operation.I saw "it" on friday evening.I couldn't bring myself to believe it.I tought if I don't talk about it,it will go away. I wanted to call my vet,couldn't do it,didn't want to hear about it. But they called me this morning to tell me they had a cancellation and could take my foster to get her spay tomorrow.So I told my vet about it.I knew it,I didn't want to hear what he had to say.Operation without chimio will be usefull.It would start at $5000.00 and could cost up to $7000.00.No garantee,like humains,some dogs respond well,some not.Not only I don't have that kind of money,I wouldn't put Daisy thru this. He told me to "get ready".Since the tumours she had always come back faster,it could mean there is not much time left....I knew I didn't want to hear it.I will unfortunatly stop fostering for a while,I did foster 12 dogs in the past 10 months,but I feel horrible.I just want to cherish the time she has left with me. I hope she wont suffer,I hope I will know when to let her go.....

Prin
July 24th, 2006, 09:18 PM
Aww, I'm so sorry Frenchy.:grouphug: :sad: I don't know what to say. :sad:

jesse's mommy
July 24th, 2006, 09:19 PM
Awww Frenchy, I'm so sorry to hear this. It's so terrible. I don't even know what to say. I'm so sorry.

mastifflover
July 24th, 2006, 10:26 PM
Frenchy I feel so bad for the both of you. I think you will know when the time is and I think Daisy will let you know when the time has come. You and Daisy will be in my thoughts. Make the most of the time you have :pawprint: :grouphug:

BoxerRescueMTL
July 24th, 2006, 11:20 PM
I'm so sorry Frenchy! I have some interesting nutritional info for dogs with cancer since I have had a few myself :( If you'd like the links, pm me.

we3beagles
July 25th, 2006, 12:23 AM
Thank God for you frenchy. For making what time she had with you so loving and comforting. Please believe that she is so grateful to you and knows that you will only do what is best for her when the time comes. Prayers for you and her that what time she has will be quality time. :grouphug: :sad:

chico2
July 25th, 2006, 07:06 AM
Oh Frenchy,so sorry:sad: my thoughts are with you and Daisy,I know she could not be in better loving hands than yours:love:

Frenchy
July 25th, 2006, 12:55 PM
Thanks for your support everyone.I feel better today,I'm much more optomistic.Thank you so much for the links Crystal,sounds like Daisy MIGHT get swith to raw diet.Oh man,that means I will have to actually prepare food and put my hands on meat :yuck: :eek:

BoxerRescueMTL
July 25th, 2006, 01:02 PM
that means I will have to actually prepare food and put my hands on meat
Lol, I had trouble with that at first too considering I don't eat meat myself. Maybe you can also look into those dehydrated type dog foods out there (they don't have carbs do they?)..Or a grain free kibble?

Stacer
July 26th, 2006, 05:23 PM
that sucks frenchy, hopefully daisy can live out the rest of her life in happiness and love.

Frenchy
July 26th, 2006, 07:37 PM
Thanks Stacer,I think Daisy is getting some more happiness since yesterday, she gets to eats sardines ! :yuck:

Cruiser
July 26th, 2006, 10:27 PM
I feel for you Frenchy,it is not easy to know when to let go.
You have certinly done more then a lot of folks would and i must say it is not an easy task taking care of a sick family member like this but you are doing it with grace and courage.I am going to light a candle for Daisy and you.Many hugs.

OntarioGreys
July 27th, 2006, 09:16 AM
:grouphug:

You could try EVO high in protien and low in carbs.


Just some resources and info for you


This is what someone else in doing for one of their dogs with cancer
I've been using artemisinin for almost 2 years. Winnie was diagnosed with osteo in May of 2004 and had her right rear leg amputated in July 2004. And she's still going strong! It may be luck, the fact that she's a tough, stubborn old girl (she'll be 11 in Nov.), or maybe I'm helping some with the supplements I'm giving her. She gets 1 100mg artemisinin every day, as well as glucosamine, Vitamins C and E, and a fish oil capsule for those omega fatty acids. All of these things are immune system boosters. I also give her Pycnogenol, 1 capsule a day in the morning (artemisinin in the evening). I forget just where I researched pycnogenol, but it apparently works like the artemisinin. I don't really know why this works, but at 2 years and counting, I'm not going to start questioning now. Winnie didn't have chemo. After the amp, I just started changing things to boost her immune system. I changed from Purina One to Chicken Soup for the Dog Lovers Soul (main ingredient is chicken, few additives), and started giving her steak with her meals. She's on the Feed the dog, starve the cancer diet---low carbs. I'm just ordering more artemisinin now. I get it online from Nutricology, an approved source. The CG article lists the best sources. You should keep it in the fridge, and not give it close to when you give the Vitamin


CG(Celebrating Greyhounds) is a magazine unfortunately I did the get that issue but the website they are ordering from is this one http://www.nutricology.com/

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/artemisinin_and_cancer/



This is a yahoo group for artemisinin for pets, you can do a google search on to understand why it is being used

This Ohio state Oncologist Dr Couto recently did a seminar in Kentucky saying that artemisinin looks quite promising http://vet.osu.edu/GuillermoCouto.htm he is very approachable, I have emailed him myself asking questions and for advice

He is currently usiing less expensive chemo treatment for bone cancer that he is using in his research studies, I am not sure if it would be effective on mast cells, it is $120 US a dose compared to former chemo treatment which is a $1000 a dose, some info about here. If it is feasible for use with mast cell , it may make chemo treatment still an option. I know for greyhounds he will shipped the chemo drug to the local treating onocologist.http://home.comcast.net/~greyhndz/osteo.htm

He does a lot of cancer research with greyhounds but he also has been doing cancer research on Flat coated Retrievers

http://www.fcrsainc.org/healthmanual/status.html

And with one persons grey who had a cancerous lump the chemo treatment he did was was localized by injecting the chemo drug right into the lump, or possibly was a surgery site where clean margins were not possible anywhere it was the first time I had eve heard of a chemo treatment done in such a manner


I know there is a yahoo support group for owners with greyhound with cancer
so I took a look to see if I could find for all breeds

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/CanineCancer/

Frenchy
July 27th, 2006, 06:35 PM
Thank you Cruiser for the :candle: it's really nice of you.Thanks Ontariogreys, I have a lot of reading to do,but it's all worth it!

cpietra16
July 27th, 2006, 06:59 PM
Oh Frenchy, I have nothing usefull to say or to help, but I just want to how sorry I am and you'll be in my thoughts....sometimes, just sometimes miracles happen to the good guys

Smiley14
July 27th, 2006, 11:03 PM
Oh Frenchy, I'm so very sorry. My heart breaks for you. Please give Daisy lot of hugs from us. :grouphug: And spoil her with those sardines! :)
You'll both be in my thoughts.

rainbow
July 28th, 2006, 12:48 PM
Frenchy, I'm so sorry to hear about Daisy. It's a terrible thing for both of you to have to go through. :grouphug:

mummummum
July 28th, 2006, 02:33 PM
Frenchy and Daisy ~ I'm so very sorry. I hope that you continue to celebrate each day you have together with joy and love.:pawprint: :candle: :pawprint:

Frenchy
July 28th, 2006, 06:37 PM
Thank you all,your words are sure helping :grouphug:

glasslass
July 28th, 2006, 07:56 PM
Frenchy, I missed this thread in April and didn't realize you had been going through all this. I'm so sorry! I also went through this with my second poodle. I understand how you're feeling. It's hard to try to keep your furbaby from sensing the anguish you're feeling, but you keep trying because you want the remaining time to be quality time for her. I wish I could give you a real :grouphug: !