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Harrassed By Liberal Campaign Worker!

babyrocky1
December 21st, 2005, 05:53 PM
Im going to try and post this in small bits cause Ive posted it or tried three times and it keeps logging me off. Today while taking Rocky out for his pee, on our property a group of women walked by and one said "ooh look at that Scary a$$ed looking dog. I made a comment back about him only looking scary cause he was wearing a muzzle. It turned out these people were liberal campaign workers! Later they knocked at my door, I hadn't figured it out yet because only two of them came and the one that had insulted Rocky wasn't there.

babyrocky1
December 21st, 2005, 05:59 PM
when I answered the door I went out in the hall to talk to them because Rocky was barking, they asked me if I had EVER voted Liberal, I said no, and I wont be this time either, however, I belong to a national orgaization , the DLCC, and we are concerned about BSL, if you would like to get a statement from the candidate regarding this matter I will be happy to pass it on, they are a non-partsion organization. They siad they would have someone get back to me, this is a pat answer, its what I was always told to say if I didn't know were the party stood. Anyways after I shut the door...DUH! I realise that they were with the woman who had insulted me, I went back out into the hall and said, just a minute,,, wasnt' it one of you who just insulted my dog, One of them from down the hall says yeah that was me, hes a pit bull isn't he, I said yes he is and its ignorant comments like yours that perpetuate negative stereo types that make it possible for YOUR party to exploit innocent animals and eventually MURDER them, she was saying things like "give me a br eak then the other one said shes entitled to her opinion.

babyrocky1
December 21st, 2005, 06:07 PM
she meaning the canvasser, I said you might be if you werent on my property, knocking at my door and Harrasing me! If you have such a problem with my dog get the he!! out of the building! By this time theres a screaming match going on and one of them talks the other into apologising but by that I mean an arrogant as heck...SORRY! obviously having a shouting match with a constituant isn't what the politicians usually have in mind, There was more to the argument but I cant remember it all, also this is the THIRD time Ive typed this...it kept logging me off. Anyways I thought I would capitialize on my anger so I called the campaign office and told them off. They appologised for the canvassers attitude, and re BSL told me that the federal fibs and the provincial fibs have entirely independent sets of policiys. Thats what they always say, sometimes I believe it, however, I mentioned that a federal cab minister once said that Candadians dont need dogs that weight over forty lbs. and that the provincial fibs never mentioned anything about bsl before they were elected eithier, sooo we would like to be proactive and have a statement from all the federal partys, apparantly theyre getting back to me, I did reinterate that I wont be voting for them but that I would happily pass on the info to the national organization. I honestly dont care if the federal fibs win, I guess I hope they do, we all know how I feel about Harper, but Tony Ianno, my riding, he is so arrogant, that canvasser was probalby a relative:rolleyes: :evil:

seeker
December 21st, 2005, 08:10 PM
I would welcome any Liberal campaigners into my house to see "little sharkie"

seeker
December 21st, 2005, 08:18 PM
Seriously , you did the right thing in calling the campaign office . Keep us informed on how things pan out .
I would like to see civil rights as a election issue but nobody cares enough.
Also :Isn't it wonderful how one level of government always passes things off to the other level in a way to justify inaction.

Prin
December 21st, 2005, 08:38 PM
THIRD time Ive typed this...it kept logging me offMaybe the Liberals have internet taps?:evil:
I would definitely complain about that. Way to win a vote there, moron. :rolleyes:

babyrocky1
December 21st, 2005, 09:17 PM
Maybe the Liberals have internet taps?:evil:
I would definitely complain about that. Way to win a vote there, moron. :rolleyes: No kidding, I still can't believe that it happened, I have campaigned for at least twelve seperate elections and I have never seen anything like that, Ive had people be rude to me at the door but not THAT rude and I certainly didn't go in trying to Pick a fight geesh! Oh well Im sure the rest of the apartment dwellers on my floor got a good laugh! Makes for good amusing anecdotes at the Xmas parties. Hopefully I will get some info to pass on I also just called Olivias campaign office and they said they would get back to me as well. Geesh, Seeker your creature is way too cute for this crew LOL "scary a$$ed dog" GRRRRRRRRRRRRRR! If I had more time I would have followed them through the building telling everyone who answered the door what they did, Rocky is a very popular boy in my building, unfortunately I had to leave for work...Could have been an enjoyable hour though:evil:

babyrocky1
December 21st, 2005, 09:25 PM
BTW thanks to whoever fixed my Liveral to Liberal, I tried but couldn't delete it:confused: I was thinking of fixing the other typos but after three times...well nah! And about the fibs messsing with our site, I know that they cant do that but there was this one night were i was on the BSL forum all by myself and there was alot of political chat, very political chat, and when I looked at the bottom of the page there was me and 49 guests!!! Kind a freaked me out! LOL They were all reading a negative post about Bryant...all of them...same post ooooh spooky!

Loki
December 21st, 2005, 10:12 PM
Maybe the Liberals have internet taps?:evil:


Actually, you aren't far off. The Liberals introduced a bill to allow for warrantless monitoring of email and phone conversations etc. I think it died when the government was defeated, though.

Wow, Babyrocky. Sorry to hear you went through that.

babyrocky1
December 21st, 2005, 10:19 PM
Thanks Loki, but after all was said and done, yelling at liberals wasn't a bad way of spending a day, somewhat theraputic even LOL (I will be reporting it to the relavent websites this week)

Georgiapeaches
December 22nd, 2005, 12:19 AM
Wow! What a situation to be in. I hate to say it, but I can only dream of being in a situation like that, (having someone, just so happens to be a Liberal campaigner that insults my dog) it would be like striking gold :)

BTW thanks to whoever fixed my Liveral to Liberal, I tried but couldn't delete it:confused: I was thinking of fixing the other typos but after three times...well nah! And about the fibs messsing with our site, I know that they cant do that but there was this one night were i was on the BSL forum all by myself and there was alot of political chat, very political chat, and when I looked at the bottom of the page there was me and 49 guests!!! Kind a freaked me out! LOL They were all reading a negative post about Bryant...all of them...same post ooooh spooky!

Didn't the DLCC change their forum from public to private just for that reason?

Prin
December 22nd, 2005, 12:57 AM
BTW thanks to whoever fixed my Liveral to Liberal, I tried but couldn't delete it:confused:Aww, I thought it was Liveral on purpose (because they make you want to drink!).:D

Lizzie
December 22nd, 2005, 07:46 AM
I think that's just terrible. Canvassers have one job to do, that's to encourage constituents to vote for their party. They are not there to judge, harass or impede on your own life. The candidate for that riding, had it been a newbie, would likely have been very upset by this. However, since it's an incumbant who is more than likely to win, I fear that your complaint was lost as the phone call.

As for the BSL issue, I'm afraid that as much as people would like to disagree, it is in fact a provincial issue. Each level of government in Canada has its own jurisdiction. While one silly cabinet minister may have made a stupid comment, it was his own personal view, not the view of the federal government.

Out of respect and the rules, the federal government does not infringe on the provinces rights. Take public education for example. This is a provincial issue. The federal government does not have jurisdiction here...if they step in, they impose on the toes of the elected MPPs and MLAs--and in turn, force their opinion on, in some cases, a population that shares very different views (ex. some provinces have a PC government so having a Liberal federal government step on their toes could cause quite a problem).

Anyways, i'm afraid the issue lies with the provicinal government, whether we like it or not.

As for your door knockers...I'd put your complaint in writing to the president of the electoral district association. At least this way it'll be documented and a matter of record.

Schwinn
December 22nd, 2005, 09:00 AM
Scary a$$ed? I don't think it was the muzzle, then. Seems she was afraid of the other end.

Daisy has been a scary a$$ed dog for a few days now...I think it's something she ate...smells bad.

Oh, and I've been waiting for them to show up at my door, except I get home at 8 pm, so Cheryl's promised to introduce Daisy when they do. We also got a new door that's bigger than the old one. Slams real good...

Schwinn
December 22nd, 2005, 09:01 AM
Oh, also, I agree about the federal and liberal parties being different. I just don't like Paul Martin.:D

babyrocky1
December 22nd, 2005, 05:04 PM
I agree that the feds and the provincial partys can sometimes be different, however, what is to stop a federal government from deciding that Pit bulls or persion cats for that matter shouldn't be banned nationally. Many other countries have banned breeds of dogs. Theres no guarantee that it couldn't be done federally here, Before the provincial election none of us were concerned about breed bans provincially either, it was then more likely to have come from a city bilaw. I think its very unlikely to happen but I don't see why it couldn't, Bill 132 is most certainly a provincial bill so we cant fight the feds on it... I get that...but since we are insisting that the bill violates our Charter rights, well that makes it federal.

babyrocky1
December 22nd, 2005, 05:06 PM
As for your door knockers...I'd put your complaint in writing to the president of the electoral district association. At least this way it'll be documented and a matter of record. Thats a really good idea, I never thought of that one!

babyrocky1
December 22nd, 2005, 05:14 PM
I think that's just terrible. Canvassers have one job to do, that's to encourage constituents to vote for their party. They are not there to judge, harass or impede on your own life. The candidate for that riding, had it been a newbie, would likely have been very upset by this. However, since it's an incumbant who is more than likely to win, I fear that your complaint was lost as the phone call.

. Ianno won by 800 measly votes last time...He needs to worry, however, not about our building, we are one poll and we vote over 98% for Olivia.. He has made it very clear to us that he will do nothing for us because of the way we vote,.he knows me very well so he probably enjoyed the story if anything! He has nothing to lose in our building, thats probably why these idiots were dispatched to us in the first place, sending them to somewhere were they couldn't do any harm.... I meant to point that out to them but I was too involved in explaining how I wouldn't put up with them making ignorant comments about my dog or his breed.

babyrocky1
December 22nd, 2005, 05:22 PM
Wow! What a situation to be in. I hate to say it, but I can only dream of being in a situation like that, (having someone, just so happens to be a Liberal campaigner that insults my dog) it would be like striking gold :)



Didn't the DLCC change their forum from public to private just for that reason?I don't know Georgiapeached, Im new to their site but it seems reasonable. I know they have warned people that it still isn't completely private. I guess thats cause they cant check out each member but you have to be invited to thier site now. You are so right about the canvassers, talk about playing into someones hands. Starting an argument with me of all people about my baby, hey when it was over I just kinda felt like ahhh thanks I needed that LOL This is how stupid they really are though, yesterday when it happened we had signs in both elevators asking for donations of blankets for Bullies in Need....they would have seen that right after they insulted Rocky...uh how many clues do they need????LOL

Shaykeija
December 22nd, 2005, 05:32 PM
I think all you guys who own pits should have this posted on your front doors...
If you are a Liberal Pain in the ass..Beware of the owner not the dog.

babyrocky1
December 22nd, 2005, 07:52 PM
Bill 132 is most certainly a provincial bill so we cant fight the feds on it... I get that...but since we are insisting that the bill violates our Charter rights, well that makes it federal.

I just read a response on another site to that point, the candidate said that it was up to the courts to protect our rights under the charter, so I guess its a good thing we have a GOOD lawyer LOL

seeker
December 22nd, 2005, 10:30 PM
I just read a response on another site to that point, the candidate said that it was up to the courts to protect our rights under the charter, so I guess its a good thing we have a GOOD lawyer LOL

We do have a good lawer and that is why we must support him.
Be sure to send that letter .You were obeying the law and you were being harrassed for no reason ,so bitch like h*ll. These people need to be told and hopefully your local Liberal will be told on election night.
Liberals =:evil:

Me and Kayla
December 22nd, 2005, 10:52 PM
Thanks Loki, but after all was said and done, yelling at liberals wasn't a bad way of spending a day, somewhat theraputic even LOL (I will be reporting it to the relavent websites this week)

That was my initial thought when I read this. Very theraputic!

How come I never get to let off steam like that to stupid people?? The best that I get is someone yelling out their car window at me as they are zipping by at 80kph. Somehow, yelling back at a fading car in the distance doesn't quite cut it. :(

Glad you let them have it! Thats harrassment, plain and simple.

Me and Kayla

Schwinn
December 23rd, 2005, 11:15 AM
He needs to worry, however, not about our building, we are one poll and we vote over 98% for Olivia.. He has made it very clear to us that he will do nothing for us because of the way we vote,.

A similar situation happened a few years ago where someone was having some difficulty, and when they called the MPs office, they were told "Why should I help you, you didn't vote for me" and there was a HUGE brouhaha in the papers about it, and the member caught serious flack for it. I don't remember who it was, or even exactly when, but I do remember it was in Toronto. You might want to pass on something like that to the papers if you really want to see it get attention.

seeker
December 23rd, 2005, 04:01 PM
A similar situation happened a few years ago where someone was having some difficulty, and when they called the MPs office, they were told "Why should I help you, you didn't vote for me" and there was a HUGE brouhaha in the papers about it, and the member caught serious flack for it. I don't remember who it was, or even exactly when, but I do remember it was in Toronto. You might want to pass on something like that to the papers if you really want to see it get attention.

Great idea .Comments like that from any member of parliament is unacceptable and the public should know all about it call the papers especially small local ones if there are any and the big ones if there are no small ones , let them all know .
Maybe you can help this guy lose a few more votes!!!!

babyrocky1
December 23rd, 2005, 06:15 PM
I just got a calll from the campaign manager about forty minutes ago! I am feeling way too sick for this, anyways...this was the most frustrating conversation Ive e ver had, as we were having three conversations at once, If I got the guys name Ive forgotten it. I think his point in calling was to tell me that the campaign workers did nothing wrong... he said the comment she made to me was NOT to me but rather a private conversation that I just overheard!!! It was intentional. Even still he said she was entitled to her opinion in a democracy, I said that insulting someone on there property is more than expressing an opinion...it is harrassment, it went back and forth like that for quite sometime until I just asked...did you just call me to start an argument? I didn't ask to talk to you BTW!!!!

Eventually we got around to Tony I annos stand on BSL...he siad that Tony doesnt support it, If it were introduced as a bill he would not suppport the bill.

The campaign managaer went on about the differences between the feds and the provincial BUT he works for both! I said that no one that sat through the four days of committeee hearings could have possibly come away with the opinion that Pit Bulls should be banned, although he did not say what his opinion was, he did say that he was there all four days, and that there was enough evidence for bill 132 that when the committee voted it was passed. Ofcourse I pointed out that the committtee was stacked with Liberals, and that I believed that they passed it only for political reasons. I said something like they lacked integrity but I cant remember what exactly....at one point when he told me that Tony was against BSL and that he had his own dog but it wasn't a pit bull, I said if its a short haired muscular dog, its a pit bull! He said oh no, the leg is very specific. thats when we agreed to end the conversation, before we started arguing again. I told him we would definately meet again in the PROVINCIAL election. We ended it on a civil note, but it was pretty nerve racking! I guess its good that we got a concrete statement, and since I am a person of my word I posted it but WOW the guy had a real attitude! My head is stilll buzzing!

babyrocky1
December 23rd, 2005, 07:06 PM
Great idea .Comments like that from any member of parliament is unacceptable and the public should know all about it call the papers especially small local ones if there are any and the big ones if there are no small ones , let them all know .
Maybe you can help this guy lose a few more votes!!!! Ill talk to the other members here and find out exactly what was said but I know he didnt come right out and say that, I remeber it was close though. but implications are hard to prove. Iannos not that stupid! Also it was probably two mandates ago.

babyrocky1
January 11th, 2006, 06:56 PM
I met the Liberal campaign organizer that phoned me, I don't know if Im allowed to put his name here or not, so I wont. I snooped around til I found out who he was and lo and behold he outright interupted me while I was talking to the Conservative guy. We grumbled at each other a bit but no big deal, I feel better knowing who he is and that he knows I know who he is. Oh he was at the all Candidates meeting for Trintiy Spadina, I was there in the hopes of getting the candidates to sign my Banned Aid petition, the one asking for a law for Courtney Trempe, no one would sign it, Ianno said he couldn't cause hes a cabinet minister, Conservative guy said he couldn't cause hes candidate but said BSL is dumb and that we should have hired him at a way cheaper rate than Ruby:rolleyes: Im assuming hes a lawyer....anyway, I couldn't get to the Green party candidate but his campaign worker wouldn't sign cause he said pit bulls bite people:mad: He did clarify that it was his own opinion and that he didn't know were the candidate stood on the issue. Finally, i got Olivia as her handlers were literally pulling her out the door, she said she couldn't sign cause she didn't know much about the issue and because Ianno would crusifie her for getting involved "out of juristiction" its one of the things he likes to go after her on. She said she will meet with me in Feb. and suggested that I talk to Rosario who is my MPP and Peter Kormos, of course you all know Ive done that! So for my own conscience, I feel that although Olivia didn't say what I wanted to hear, she gave me an honest answer, the provincial NDP has opposed BSL and spoken eloquently on our behalf. I now feel that its time for me to volunteer in the election with Olivias campaign. I needed to talk to her about this first, for me its enough for now. BTW Im going to try and start a Trintiy Spadina large breed dog owners assosciation....if you know anyone in the area.....

CyberKitten
January 11th, 2006, 09:38 PM
If this happaened to me, I would write to the individual's official agent - who is responsible for any workers or the person in charge of canvassing as well as the Riding President who in some cases in not all that friendly with the candidate (it happens more than you think, lol) The agent is selected by the candidate. Then I would send it to the Chief Electoral Offiocer (Jean Pierre Kingsley - check out elections.ca because what they did was illegal - small technicaility under the Elections Act but illegal is illegal) - with copies to the other parties. If you are Trinity Spadina (I scanned so I am not sure, I would send it also to Jack Layton;s campaign if you have amind to vote NDP - they can then accuse the Grits of attacking voters). Just my thought!

babyrocky1
January 11th, 2006, 10:09 PM
Not only am I voting NDP, I will be volunteering for the campaign, I told them all about it, but they didn't know what to do, Lizzie posted a link as well which i need to folllow up on. Tony Ianno has been the incumbant for gosh eight or so yrs, at least so i imagine that the riding pres likes him but you never know. I believe the reason that he called was that he felt like bullieng, obviously no offence meant to "bullies:pawprint:" and I had declared myself as an NDP supporter. I do know his name now and he also works provincially for the liberals,THE ENEMEY! he told me he was at the pit bull hearings everyday, including the out of town ones, so Im now very curious as to what role he played in those hearings, I tried to google his name and pit bulls but I didn't get anything, does anyone know a better way to find out more about him?

babyrocky1
January 11th, 2006, 10:13 PM
If you are Trinity Spadina (I scanned so I am not sure, I would send it also to Jack Layton;s campaign if you have amind to vote NDP - they can then accuse the Grits of attacking voters). Just my thought! I am in Trintiy Spadina, its were Jack lives but his wife Olivia is the candidate. I think Jacks riding is Toronto Danforth. doesnt matter we all party together LOL

Catt31
January 12th, 2006, 08:01 AM
I would love for a Liberal to come knocking on my door! Brick isn't a "pit" but he sure looks like one!!! Won't they be surprised??? I just have to say how happy I am to read all the comments from Ontarians (is that a word??) that they won't be voting Liberal!! Here in the west, we are all counting on you guys to NOT vote Liberal, as we are too little to have a whole lot of impact (I mean we do, but there are more of you out East than out here!) Thanks!:fingerscr

Invicta
January 12th, 2006, 09:17 AM
babyrocky1, I just checked Hansard for the 4 days of hearings and interestingly enough, his name is not mentioned at all. Not on the committee or even a stand-in for the committee. Somehow I doubt that he was just sitting around the hearings for 4 days when he probably had other work to do and could've sent one of his little doobies to sit there for him. So I call BS on Mr. Ianno. They really do believe all the lies don't they.

babyrocky1
January 12th, 2006, 04:41 PM
Its not Tony Ianno that was supposed to be at the committee hearings, he is the federal liberal...His campaign organizer, who is also a provincial liberal, told me that he, the organizer, was at the committee hearings, I know the post is so confusing, but the guy who was harrasing me kept switching the conversation, first hed be talking about bieing a federal guy, then hed start arguing about bill 132 as a provincial liberal. Hes not an elected representative anywhere, hes a paid employee and a dumb A$$, thats why I dont know if I can post his name or not cause hes not a politicain so maybe not fair game. Ill pm you more, I tried to yahoo you the other day but it didn't work, doesn't work from here Im at work, thanks for looking though!!!I was going to search the links to hansard that are here tonight, I don't knw if they still work.

seeker
January 12th, 2006, 06:15 PM
By the way things are looking there will be a few less Fedaral Libs around real soon . Look at it as a warmup to Oct 2007 .

Conners
January 17th, 2006, 12:26 PM
What that woman did to you was against the law. Next time you know you have the right to call the police on her. I have a letter here that I carry in my packback at all times and I'm just waiting to use it. Even the police can't dispute this letter. I'll show you the parts of the letter I have high lighted for just such an incident.
"In regards to your concerns about harrassment of pit bull owners, I can state unequivocally that verbal abuse and/or physical assaults on pit bull owners and/or their dogs are wholly unacceptable. Where there is potential criminal activity, individuals concerned for their safety should call the police immediately. The pit bull ban is designed to increase public safety. It is not to intended to encourage harrassment of pit bull owners and it certainly is no excuse for such behaviour."
Now for the cop out answer when asked how to defend myself should an attack occur;
"In regards to your question about self-defence, I cannot provide you with legal advice. Simularily, I cannot provide you with dvice on how to respond to threats to your pwerson safety as such responses need be considered on a case-by-case basis with regards to all particulrs circumstances. Where police are unavailable, individuals are able to defend themselves in keeping with provisions of the Criminal Code and the common law. Generally, self-defence is complex and reiterate that responces need to be considered on a case-by-case basis with full regard to the law."
Tell that one to the person that is attacking you and your muzzled dog. Sorry buddies, but you are breaking the law. You MUST stop! Good grief Charlie Brown!
Again I have this part high-lighted;
"Section 3(2) of DOLA exempts dog owners from civil liability in relation to dog attacks that occur in relation to criminal acts on the owners' property. Section 3(2) provides: "Where a person is on premises with the intention of committing, or in the commission of, a criminal act on the premises and incur damage caused by being bitten or attacked by a dog, the owner is not liable under section 2" then goes on to say unhighlighted "unless the keeping of the dog on the premises was unreasonable for purpose of the protection of the protection of persons or property."
I feel badly for what you went through Baby Rock, but keep this in mind should an incident happen again, you do not need a yelling match. Simply call the police and nail them for harassment straight from the words of Michael Bryant himself. Go get em Tiger!!!!

Loki
January 17th, 2006, 01:37 PM
If I'm not mistaken, Ianno's campaign manager is a senior advisor to Bryant.

Remember the guy that was sending emails to constituents, asking them to sign the petition to ban pit bulls? Same guy.

babyrocky1
January 17th, 2006, 06:00 PM
OMG!!!!that explains a whole hell of alot doesn't it...oh that sleeze bag! when we ran into one another, or I should say I went looking for him, he came up behind me and I had his name written on an envelope, which he saw, and we ended up exchanging a few growls at one another. I will pm the name.

babyrocky1
January 17th, 2006, 06:12 PM
Connners, I just read your post, the justification on there part would be, that I "overheard a private conversation" thats what the guy told me as the reason that they did not owe me an apology. Also im paranooid now about them making false accusations about Rocky, if anyone knows how to manipulate this law and how many rights have b een taken away from us, its this guy!!!!! Democracy is dead in Ontario!!!!

Conners
January 17th, 2006, 09:15 PM
Connners, I just read your post, the justification on there part would be, that I "overheard a private conversation" thats what the guy told me as the reason that they did not owe me an apology. Also im paranooid now about them making false accusations about Rocky, if anyone knows how to manipulate this law and how many rights have b een taken away from us, its this guy!!!!! Democracy is dead in Ontario!!!!
Sorry BabyRock, my computer has been down for awhile and when I saw what you first posted, I had taken it that that insult was directed to you... which I'm sure it was, but as you say, 'a personal conversation.' Sheesh, they must have been talking loudly enough for them to over hear them. How about a noise disturbance?
You're right though, those noise makers KNOW they don't have our vote, so they think, lets make them even more miserable.
No Liberals will dare knock on my door. I have so much 'stop BSL' and the Liberal Party with the circle and cross, saying, LIBERALS NO! I'll vote for you when we matter. A picture of different creeds and a pit bull, along with Shasta in her muzzle saying racial profiling is wrong, a sign saying, 'Ontario more dogs will suffer, plus my YES! I have a Pit bull sign that says this is up for her protection, not yours. How much more clear would it be to know I'm not voting Liberal. I HOPE I OFFEND them!!! :evil:

gdamadg
January 17th, 2006, 09:46 PM
That's horrible. No matter what they say, the Liberal Party both Provincial and Federal seem to be the same. I got a phone call from a Representative from my local Federal campaigne off, seeking my support on election day. :yuck:

I asked the guy where the Member stood on BSL as it was a infraction on my Charter Rights, meanwhile avoiding his initial question. He told me that it was a Provincial issue and that bull about the seperation of the Federal and Provincial Parties. Then he asked me again if he had my support and I told him that I had already voted as I am a member of the Canadian Forces and my home riding is in a western province, so I have to vote in special advance polls. He then had the nerve to ask me who I voted for. When I told him no I didn't mind and that I voted Conservative and was about to list my reasons, he interupted and said thank you and hung up.


I like some of the NDP's platform, but right now we need a major change and I didn't think they were strong enough to win and get the job done. And I do not totally agree with all of the Conservative platform, but I know that the rest of the government will keep them in check on the major issues (ie. same sex marriage).

babyrocky1
January 18th, 2006, 05:27 PM
If I'm not mistaken, Ianno's campaign manager is a senior advisor to Bryant.

Remember the guy that was sending emails to constituents, asking them to sign the petition to ban pit bulls? Same guy.Just to clarify, Loki was not mistaken, the guy that called me is a senior advisor to Bryant and was caught by the provincial conservatives soliciting signatures from liberal staffers asking them to sign the petition FOR the ban. I believe Loki meant to post staffers rather than constituants, thanks for the great detective work Loki! Do you guys believe this????? Im glad I didn't know who exactly he was when I spoke to him or I may have been too flipped out to speak but I did get a few good remarks in, albeit polite, but thats okay...you carry more weight when its said in a polite and sincere way. Today Tony Ianno himself came to my door and I told him what happened with the whole crew of them. I also brought Rocky out with me after asking permission from him cause of the "shared enclosure" Tony knows I volunteer for Olivia but we are civil to one another as I am active in the community and oftentht requires a non-partison approach.

Invicta
January 19th, 2006, 07:08 AM
babyrocky1, that may explain why he told you he was at the hearings. If he's Bryant's senior advisor he may have been sent there to observe. I just don't remember seeing him.

babyrocky1
January 19th, 2006, 04:33 PM
That explains it alright, I just didn't realise he had such an active roll in the murder of innocent dogs! I figured he was more of a "go for" not a senior advisor busying himself with padding petitions! so I guess he was in there as a spy for Bryant himself. I mean he could have been an assisitant to any of the Joe Blow Fibs that were on the committee. I was blown away to find out who he really is and that he had such a major role in bill 132! Its almost as bad as talking to Bryant himself, it sounds like this guy is #2...ahhh way too close for comfort.

seeker
January 25th, 2006, 05:04 PM
Well I suppose any threat from these clowns ended Monday night .

Babyrocky I got your PM
The only "good" liberal is a "downed" liberal and there are 16 good ones in the province this week . More to follow in 2007.

Conners
January 25th, 2006, 05:37 PM
Well I suppose any threat from these clowns ended Monday night .

Babyrocky I got your PM
The only "good" liberal is a "downed" liberal and there are 16 good ones in the province this week . More to follow in 2007.
Question? Now that the Conservatives are in, does that mean Michael Bryant is out? I know this is Federal, but doesn't that also get some of the Liberals out in Ontario and replaced? So, should Clayton Ruby have less of a fight on his hands? Did this Federal election erase some of the Provincial MP's is I guess what I'm asking. :confused:

babyrocky1
January 25th, 2006, 06:48 PM
Unfortuantely Conners, I dont think it makes a bit of difference. The liberals like to be totally separate, provincially and federally, Our big fight will be in court AND in the provincial election in 2007. Theres quite a few people meeting in St Pauls, thats Bryants riding.:thumbs up

babyrocky1
January 25th, 2006, 06:54 PM
What Seeker and I are refering to is that an aid to Bryant was also Tony Iannos campaign organizer, when Tony lost to Olivia, the campaign that I was working on, it looked really bad on the organizer....which is a very happy thing for me personally since hes the one that gave me a hard time about the bill on the phone. I learned quite a bit about this character in the last week. He will probably be involved in the provincial election so we will know who to look out for cause he doesn't play nice! That is if hes still employed after the mess he made of Iannos campaign.:evil:

Conners
January 25th, 2006, 07:03 PM
:sad: Shoot! That's disappointing! I thought that gave us a better chance.
Well I'm glad you guys (gals) are involved and keeping a handle on this...and happier still you know what's going on and who to watch out for. :thumbs up

Loki
January 25th, 2006, 07:07 PM
Did this Federal election erase some of the Provincial MP's is I guess what I'm asking. :confused:

The federal election has no effect on BSL.

A side-effect, however, is that 2 Conservative and 1 NDP Mpps resigned to run federally. The Provicial NDP now have 7 Mpps - they need 8 to have "official party" status. ( Without official status, I think, they aren't guaranteed a chance to speak during question period)


McGuinty will have to hold 3 by-elections to fill those 3 seats. Fingers crossed that the NDP wins a seat in one of them.

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Congrats, Babyrocky (and Olivia Chow).

babyrocky1
January 25th, 2006, 07:20 PM
Thanks Loki, I lost my voice from hooting and hollering so much at the "victory party" it was a long haul. I worked on all three of her runs at him, I must say though, the victory was a little sweeter because of the organizer LOL! So it did have to do with BSL ,for me, after all. I wouldn't mind volunteering in the provincial riding that Marilyn Churley used to hold if I can find the time and a little more energy. We have to have the NDP to speak for us, can you imagine losing Kormos' input! I dont know much about it but I would assume the NDP would have a strong candidate to take her place or they wouldnt have had her run federally, ofcourse, theres always a risk.

babyrocky1
January 25th, 2006, 07:23 PM
The federal election has no effect on BSL.

A side-effect, however, is that 2 Conservative and 1 NDP Mpps resigned to run federally. The Provicial NDP now have 7 Mpps - they need 8 to have "official party" status. ( Without official status, I think, they aren't guaranteed a chance to speak during question period)


McGuinty will have to hold 3 by-elections to fill those 3 seats. Fingers crossed that the NDP wins a seat in one of them.

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). I think your right about losing thier time in question period, they also lose alot of funding! I think McGinty can allow them to have party status if he chooses too, hmmm I wonder what the chances of that are:rolleyes:

Loki
January 25th, 2006, 07:38 PM
I read that McGuinty will let them keep their status until the by-election, but he won't make an exception if they don't pick up another seat.

babyrocky1
January 25th, 2006, 07:41 PM
no suprises there! :mad:

Schwinn
January 26th, 2006, 10:25 AM
This has happened twice. First when the Conservatives were in power (the allowed NDP party status) and then with McGinty, who originally said no. I think a lot of people were upset and he changed his mind, or they had a by-election, or something. I don't remember to be honest. I just remember that they lost party status, then one day they had it back. I'm kind of hoping he does it again, just so it makes more people angry (I don't like NDP, but even I was put off by it. I'm sure I can't be the only non-NDP'er who was annoyed.). I'm sure if the same situation happens, they'll renege again.