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Going to jail for your dog

StaceyB
December 8th, 2005, 07:34 AM
The radio station 89.9 is taking calls right now asking if you would go to jail for your pet.
Call now 723-8990

Roxy's_MA
December 8th, 2005, 10:06 AM
I can't listen, but I would be curious to know what some of the people say.

StaceyB
December 8th, 2005, 10:08 AM
Everyone who called would go to jail to save their dogs life. It is a good question, I would, would you?

Rottielover
December 8th, 2005, 10:16 AM
I would have my mom look after Harley, and YES I would go to jail for my dog. With the BSL it may not be too long either

StaceyB
December 8th, 2005, 10:23 AM
You never hear the whole story in the media it seems so this guy going against the whole ban laws is probably going to get the pit owners some good press in a wierd way.
I think that this is the first but not the last person to do this. What will they do if everyone chooses to go to jail vs have their dog pts.

Roxy's_MA
December 8th, 2005, 10:24 AM
I would definatly go to jail for my dog! If I had to go to jail and leave her, I know my BF or mom would take care of my little girl.

technodoll
December 8th, 2005, 10:44 AM
easier said than done though... how long would the jail term be? maximum or minimum security? then i'd have a criminal record right? i love my dog more than life itself but what good am i to him, if i *have* no life?

such wide-open questions as this can lead to misdirected debates, IMO...

Luvmypit
December 8th, 2005, 11:41 AM
Im certainly not misdirected nor afraid and I will go to jail for sure for my dog. Up to 6 months jail time is what is in Bill 132. 6 months for the life of my dog, minimum or maximum.. my BF is a correctional officer so hopefully I can get special treatment. Plus if you like you can go to protective custody and not have much contact with other inmates.

Yes Ive already thought about it.

StaceyB
December 8th, 2005, 11:44 AM
It is pretty bad that one would even have to think of this possibility for owning a pet.

technodoll
December 8th, 2005, 11:51 AM
yeah staceyB.... i agree... what has this country come to? :confused:

Loki
December 8th, 2005, 12:57 PM
The thing with Ontario though, it isnít as cut and dry as going to jail to save the dogís life. If the owner is charged Ė the dog dies. All the government has to do is claim itís a ďpit bull typeĒ dog.

The way I understand the case in Ottawa, the government has given the owner the following choices:
1. Decide, on his own, to have his dog put down and he walks.
2. Be charged under the provincial law (where the dog automatically receives a death order) and additionally face $10G in fines and 6 months jail time.
3. Somehow prove that his dog is a poodle, and he walks.

The $10G fine / jail time is an intimidation tool to be used against anyone that would consider challenging the law.

Donít defend yourself: you walk (or get a smaller fine), but your dog dies.
Defend yourself: face prison and fines, and your dog still likely dies (unless you can prove the impossible).

Roxy's_MA
December 8th, 2005, 01:00 PM
So even if you go to jail, your dog still has to be murdered?

gdamadg
December 8th, 2005, 01:13 PM
Yup, either way your dog loses his life. The jail term is intended to scare these "bad owners" from getting another of these "bad dogs" again.

twodogsandacat
December 8th, 2005, 04:12 PM
OR


The judge finds the law vague and the charge is thrown out.

Let's face it judges hardly hand out severe sentences for gun crime. Why do you believe that they would throw somebody in jail for six months and impose the maximum fine for being in violation of the DOLA? I'm not speaking of an attack here but the muzzling, neutering and such.

Let’s look at a real case for example. Under the previous law two dogs attacked. Problem dogs where the owner already had unpaid fines was convicted and where the neighbours were already circulating a petition against this owner.

Based on the severity of the attack (in which one dog was shot) he was fined around $2500. The maximum he could have been fined was $5000 per dog – for a total of $10000. This was definitely a case where the owner deserved the maximum and he didn’t get it. Yes, the dogs were pit bulls. Un-neutered, free roaming, out of control pit bulls owned by an irresponsible owner and he gets 25% of the maximum fine.

LM1313
December 8th, 2005, 06:00 PM
I would if it would save the dog's life. But if the dog would still be PTS, well . . . I love my dog, but if it wouldn't help her, what would be the point?

~LM~

Loki
December 8th, 2005, 06:56 PM
Why do you believe that they would throw somebody in jail for six months and impose the maximum fine for being in violation of the DOLA?

Personally, I don't.
However, I do believe that they will use the threat of the maximum fine and jail time to try to bully people into accepting whatever punishment they are given, without a fight.

In other words: Here is your punishment, accept it. If you think it is unjust, feel free to appeal, but know that we will pursue charges under the DOLA if you do.

OR
The judge finds the law vague and the charge is thrown out.


Which is why I think they would want to try to intimidate people into not putting up a fight (with threats of Max fines/ jail time if they do) .