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badger
December 7th, 2005, 09:51 AM
I've got an orange cat, a big male by the looks of him, with a wickedly infected eye, camping out on my back porch. He's in pretty good shape except for his eye, but it needs to be treated. He would love to come inside, and I am very close to being able to get my hands on him, but there's no room at the inn.

Is there anybody who has a place for this fellow, or any kind of solution?

poodletalk
December 7th, 2005, 10:15 AM
He's a beauty! See PM.

Lucky Rescue
December 7th, 2005, 10:19 AM
OH he's gorgeous!!!

IN the meantime, you can get a styrofoam cooler, tape the top on and turn it upside down. Cut hole for a door. Put something heavy on top. This will keep him warm.

I hope someone can help this guy. I"m also full up at the moment.:(

SOS MIOW
December 7th, 2005, 08:29 PM
Call Steri-Animal at 514-744-9107 - they specialize in this type of thing (trap, neuter, release) and can help you with capturing and treating the poor fellow.

We have rescued and treated a similar tom and his rescuer ended up adopting him. So there's hope for the big guy as well.

poodletalk
January 21st, 2006, 09:36 AM
Badger,

Did you catch the orange cat?

chico2
January 21st, 2006, 09:42 AM
Yes,please let us know what's going on with him:love:

badger
January 21st, 2006, 10:48 AM
No luck in catching him yet. I hesitate to use a trap - one failed attempt might run him off and then he wouldn't be getting his calories either. The eye is the same, no better no worse. Aaargh!! I've always prided myself on being a bit of a cat whisperer but this guy isn't hearing me yet.
But I'm not giving up!

Lucky Rescue
January 21st, 2006, 11:59 AM
A trap is the best way to catch him. Let him go hungry for a day, then put a can of salmon in the trap. Put some snow over the bottom wires, so he wont' even notice. You'll catch him and it's urgent you do, to get his eye looked at.

badger
January 21st, 2006, 01:29 PM
Does anyone have a trap I can borrow? I don't mind lugging it home on public transport, if you are within reach, but I don't have a car. There's a foster home and vet treatment waiting for this guy. If he only knew it!

Inverness
January 21st, 2006, 01:53 PM
I used to have two traps, but they got lost after I lent them to someone - I don't mean I would not want to lend them to you, I just don't have them anymore ! :(

I think I might know someone who has one in Montreal. If I get a hold of her, I'll PM you. Otherwise, I have a friend who has one, but she's a little far from you. I'll check if she's going to Mtl soon at all.

A suggestion to make sure you don't scare the Ginger man off:

Start right now by feeding him in the trap for a few days by blocking the trap door (see pic below). After he's used to being fed in there, set the trap for good and you'll have him.

http://img26.imageshack.us/img26/5649/ct9kl.jpg

Lucky Rescue
January 21st, 2006, 03:13 PM
Having you tried calling the SPCA to rent one? I don't know if this is possible, but it's worth a try.

Without it, you might never get this cat and with a foster waiting for him it would be a darn shame if he got killed on the street.

Don't worry about it scaring him off. I trapped my feral mommacat twice! When they're hungry enough, they'll go in!

chico2
January 21st, 2006, 04:53 PM
Our HS,delivered a trap for me to catch my George,but he would not go in the cage,so after a few days I broke down and fed him.
Maybe George had previous experiences with cages:confused:
It is definetly the best and safest way to catch a cat,I wish your SPCA would cooperate more:sad:

cpietra16
January 21st, 2006, 05:39 PM
Can you some how get some antibiotics in him...WOuld your vet feel comfortable giving an unseen cat antibiotics. The eye looks terrible and it may not be savable but at least the infection might get cleared up. Pm me if you need anyhelp. I don't have a container but I might be able to help in other ways. One of the feral cats that I once caught used to trust me enough, eventually, to walk into my cat carrier to eat. One day I just closed the door and down to the vet he went...he was not happy, but atleast he got the care. Once he was released he stayed away for a few weeks and then finally came back...never did go back near the carrier though:o

Inverness
January 21st, 2006, 05:56 PM
We really need to focus on catching him. We have a vet waiting for this guy, money to pay for his care, and whatever his temperament is, an adopter for him, so let's all send him "into the trap" vibes !!! ;)

There are SPCAs who lend traps, and some rescue groups who have some too (Sphynx Project, Steri-Animal). I've PM'd Badger with a few contacts so she'll try them out. If anyone finds a trap in the meantime, let her know !

cpietra16
January 21st, 2006, 06:19 PM
Yes Iverness, this cat need to be caught ASAP, but I don't think there's anything wrong with giving him something for that eye. catching him may take more time and time may be running out for his eye. It just looks painful:(

poodletalk
January 21st, 2006, 06:34 PM
The Bond Foundation knows people with traps, call them and maybe someone can lend you one. Also, Steri-animal has traps, I am seeing them tomorrow so I can ask.

badger
January 21st, 2006, 06:49 PM
The worst part, for me, will be denying him food! He'll be starving! But I've got a big cat carrier, so I'll put it out there tomorrow morning and try to get him 'primed'. I have also contacted Steri-Animal about a trap.

Cpietra, I spoke to the vet about getting some meds into him right away, but he said even a one-time dose of oral antibiotics would be unlikely to help much. Personally I think it's probably herpes plus secondary infection but we'll have to wait on that. He may already be blind, poor thing. He's a skinny fellow too, but his coat isn't bad.
I just want him to be warm and safe.

Thanks everyone. We can get this done.

cpietra16
January 21st, 2006, 07:38 PM
Badger, if he comes around when your there use the cat carrier. Put food in there once or twice; getting him use to it and then try to be there when he gets in on the next meal time and just close the door. I really hope you can get him in...good luck....vibes are coming your way:fingerscr

Lucky Rescue
January 21st, 2006, 08:17 PM
The worst part, for me, will be denying him food!

I know, but going hungry for one day is better than suffering and maybe dying outside.

As long as you keep feeding him, he'll never go in the trap.

You can try the cat carrier thing, but you better be very fast if you want to close and secure the door before he busts out.

For feral or terrified cats, especially big toms, traps are really the only safe option.

cpietra16
January 21st, 2006, 08:39 PM
LR, you are right, You have to be very fast , my feral almost ramed right through the door. But if a trap is hard to come by maybe this may work especially if the cat feels comfortable around Badger. Just remember not to feel nervous...they seem to pick up on that very quickly.

SOS MIOW
January 22nd, 2006, 11:54 PM
Don't know what part of town you are in, but the Centre Canin du Suroit will lend out a trap. Also, I'm surprised that LR didn't give you JH's name and phone number - JH is part of CASCA and they deal with ferals.

Lucky Rescue
January 23rd, 2006, 12:02 AM
Badger is in downtown Montreal. If she were anywhere near here, I would take her a trap myself.

maddoxies
January 23rd, 2006, 09:24 AM
Lucky: One of our volunteers lives in Hudson and works at the Old Port. I am 99.9% sure she would transport the trap for you. I will pm you with name and phone number.

Lucky Rescue
January 23rd, 2006, 01:17 PM
I'm trying to find out if our trap is available right now. If it is, I'll take it myself if Badger can meet me at the Jolicoeur metro station.:)

poodletalk
January 23rd, 2006, 01:36 PM
Badger will probably have a cage by a rescue group in MOntreal. If that rescue group can't give her a cage by Wednesday, another group is willing to help. I believe Badger is ok for now.

chico2
January 23rd, 2006, 04:39 PM
That's great news,hopefully she can catch the poor little guy.
You guys are great,pulling together like this for a little wounded cat,sometimes I wish I lived in Montreal..but I probably would have a houseful of cats.

Lucky Rescue
January 23rd, 2006, 06:13 PM
OH that's good news about the trap!:)

badger
January 23rd, 2006, 08:07 PM
GOT HIM!! He's going a little nuts, shut inside a large cat carrier in the bathtub. He went in there (the carrier) to eat, which he has been doing for the last couple of days, and I managed to shut the door on him.

Now the question is, do I let him out. There's a litterbox in there, and a heating pad, but one of my cats is absolutely mad to get at him and there would likely be serious confrontations under the door overnight, which will make him feel even more threatened and crazy. Plus the issue of getting him into another crate when he's picked up. I don't fancy getting bit.

Any ideas? I hate to leave him in there overnight. I think I'll just wait for a couple of hours to see if he settles down.

cpietra16
January 23rd, 2006, 08:15 PM
Congrats:thumbs up . If the carrier is big enough for him to get up and walk around I would leave him in there. I assume it won't be for that long anyway. I would be afraid that the other cats might scratched under the door and you don't know how sick this cat is. Go in there and reasure him and give him some tuna ...my ferals loved it. If he's already in the carrier than you don't have to move him...one less stress on you both:p . Congrats again and I hope all goes well. :D

badger
January 23rd, 2006, 08:36 PM
He'll be in there at least overnight and perhaps until tomorrow evening. Seems a bit long to hold it.

cpietra16
January 23rd, 2006, 09:35 PM
If you can secure the other cats from getting too close then let him out in the bathroom, but you may have a problem with getting him back in later. Then again he might just enjoy the fact that he's indoors and not outside in the cold. At the end you have to make the decision since you know him best and he knows you and has trust in you. I am not much help..sorry.

Just was thinking ...to add to the confusion:confused: When my kittie was in for a few days at the vets she was kept in her holding I am sure, for the entire time and she didn't seem to mind. Cats like small enclosed places, but again it all depends on how the cat reacts.
Bottom line; if it were me...if the cat looks really nervous and frightened I would let it out. if the cat looks like its calming down I would let it stay there.
I think I'll quit while I'm ahead:o

Lucky Rescue
January 23rd, 2006, 11:04 PM
When I have "under the door" fighting, I just block the crack with a towel jammed under it or some books.

Some cats go ballistic when caged, but calm down when released. If you let him out, just keep feeding him in the carrier, so he'll continue to go in.

Congrats on catching him! You must have the speed of a gazelle!!:thumbs up

badger
January 23rd, 2006, 11:36 PM
Actually, I was hiding behind the door holding one end of a string like a complete wimp. I didn't put the food far enough back in the crate and his tail was half-hanging out. Luckily the impact of the door, although gentle, surprised him enough so that he pulled his tail in and no harm done.

He's out of the crate now, still quite anxious, but I was able to stroke him and tell him he wasn't at any risk, which is after all the big fear. He is grimy and the eye looks terrible, I hope the vet will be able to give him some relief.

Thanks everyone.

Lucky Rescue
January 24th, 2006, 12:12 AM
Thanks everyone.

No, thank YOU for caring so much!

Sounds like this poor boy is not feral at all, just frightened, and that's good news indeed.

Please let us know what happens at the vet!

cpietra16
January 24th, 2006, 08:39 AM
Again, Great job...He is too frightened right now, but I think he knows that he is going to be well cared for...you did great....pat yourself on the shoulder for a job well done. :thumbs up

Inverness
January 24th, 2006, 08:49 AM
Great news Badger ! We will be picking up our Ginger man tonight and off to the vet he goes ! Thanks for catching him !!! :thumbs up

I'll keep you all posted. :)

chico2
January 24th, 2006, 09:39 AM
Tissue time again,I am sooo excited,you guys made my day:thumbs up
Badger,I don't know what to say,I am so happy for him,can hardly contain myself:D
I hope he's not too wild,but if he already lets you pet him,that's a good sign,right?:love:
I am very eager to hear how it goes tonight..
A great big hug to Badger,Inverness and everyone else involved:grouphug:

badger
January 24th, 2006, 11:02 AM
He's going to be a big purry boy when this is all over, he totally responds to touch and voice, settles right down when I sit with him. He has a cold as well, in addition to his other woes. It is a good feeling to know that he is safe and not crouched under a car somewhere. Anybody who thinks cats 'do OK' outside needs to have their head examined.
Anita, you are such a softy, that's why we love you.

poodletalk
January 24th, 2006, 02:28 PM
I am so happy to know he's safe and sound! Keep us updated what the vet says about him.

Inverness
January 25th, 2006, 01:01 AM
I don't look too impressed at the moment, but just give me a bit of time and I'll shine ! Thank you Badger for saving my life ! :love:

Oh ! By the way ! I have a new name now: it's Toulouse ! :)

http://img91.imageshack.us/img91/2296/img21694fz.jpg

badger
January 25th, 2006, 08:10 AM
Great name! I spent a year studying in Toulouse once. If my circumstances had been any different, believe me I would have kept him. A stray that rolls over for a tummy rub on Day 2 is a keeper. Look forward to hearing the vet's assessment.

chico2
January 25th, 2006, 08:43 AM
My husband was born in Toulouse,France and he feels honoured:D ...then there was Toulouse Lautrec,the great artist.Lets hope our Ginger man has nothing seriously wrong with him??
Was he already neutered?

Badger,thank's for the sweet words,I am a wuss,but can be evil,if fighting for the defenseless,be it animal or human...luckily I do not see much of it around here,but I am keeping an eye on all the neighborhood animals,sort of a very nosy neighbor:D

chico2
January 25th, 2006, 08:47 AM
and by the way,just knowing Toulouse is warm and comfy is a wonderful feeling:love:
I could not imagine beeing out there not finding any place to get warm,a horrible existence for an animal:sad:

cpietra16
January 25th, 2006, 09:36 AM
WOW...a tummy rub on day 2...definately goes to show you that he thankful and trusts you:) ....what an honor

Lucky Rescue
January 25th, 2006, 10:15 AM
Those orange boys really are special! Poor little sweetie. I"m so happy he's safe and being cared for!!:)

SOS MIOW
January 25th, 2006, 10:59 AM
We have a foster home available in DDO if you need one. Let me know.

:thumbs up

badger
January 25th, 2006, 12:08 PM
Whoa - stampede on the horizon...

cpietra16
January 25th, 2006, 12:12 PM
that's great news...what a team when we all want the same things:D Now if only we could help catsnatcher and her furbabies:angel:

chico2
January 25th, 2006, 04:37 PM
CPietra,yeah come on all you heroes,Catsnatcher needs you,I'll be moral support and a cheerleader:D

cpietra16
January 25th, 2006, 04:56 PM
Sure I can be a great cheerleader as long as I don't have to wear the cheerleader suit...:D

chico2
January 25th, 2006, 05:04 PM
Well,I certainly would not win any beauty contests,but I'd put in on if it would help those kittys:D
Grandma(only doggie grandkids!)in a cheerleading outfit,what a sight!!

catsnatcher-CDN
January 25th, 2006, 06:50 PM
Thanks Cpietra and Chico2,

My babies are still outside. I had used a carp to stop the wind from hitting their shelter but the carp has frozen into the flood on the floor.

My landlords/inlaws are very upset now because the cats are stuck under the balcony and are no longer roaming the streets so their dog can no longer use the backyard. They're scared of a potential cat fight since the dog chases the cats.

It's a matter of time before I'm given an ultimatum. I can't imagine what I can do for them anymore if they confront me. I've been trying to home them for 2 years. It's put such a strain on our household. :sad: :sad: :sad:

cpietra16
January 25th, 2006, 06:59 PM
CAtsnatcher....I'm guessing that as much as they trust you they won't trust anyone else??
I was just wondering how they would do in an, "adoption day " situation. I haven't had anyone interested in my 2 sisters yet. If I had an extra room with a door, they would already be here. I am hearing from my friend who's brother owns a hobby farm on friday regarding the other 2 ferals that you have:fingerscr .

catsnatcher-CDN
January 25th, 2006, 07:25 PM
Thanks for your help Cpietra,

3 of the 5 may trust someone else. They took to my husband this summer very quickly and he is now also able to pet all 3.

The truth is I've been trying to stay here long enough to find them a home. I put up websites, contacted all the rescues incessantly, pleaded with friends and family to take them in, have been on horrible terms with my landlord/inlaws over this. All the while, they got older and less cuddly and harder to home.

The spring is near and rescues will be even busier than they are now and thousand of new cute kittens will be looking for homes.

I don't have much hope for them and am beginning to realize that I will have to accept their situation. When I move away sometime this year, I won't be able to take them with me and they will no longer have a shelter or regular food. I'll have to just accept the fact that there's really nothing I can even imagine doing more.

Lucky Rescue
January 25th, 2006, 08:19 PM
I also made up posters of these cats and took them to adoption events. No takers.:(

Getting indoor homes for feral or semi-feral cats is not impossible, but very VERY difficult. It's hard enough getting homes for sweet, cuddly cats.

The best thing for these cats would be a barn home. I hope cpietra has some good news for them!

poodletalk
January 25th, 2006, 09:09 PM
My dogwalker found a little black and white cat last week, she just brought it to the vets last night to get him sterilized. She asked the vet if she knows any good homes for the cat, the vet just called her to tell her that she found a home for the cat living in a heated barn.The cat would be a "mouse snatcher"

My dogwalker is on the fence if she should let this cat live in this barn, she pictured a loving family to take the cat. If she doesn't give up the cat to the farmer, I will ask the vet who's my vet as well, if she would ask her client to take a cat or two from catsnatcher.

I can't promise anything, but I will try

catsnatcher-CDN
January 25th, 2006, 09:23 PM
Thanks Poodletalk,

Please make sure that the cats in the barn will be taken care of by someone. I was told that most barn cats are mouse catchers and are usually not properly looked after or fed regularly.

My 2 ferals would have to stay indoors for at least 6 months so that they don't attempt to escape back here.

Inverness
January 25th, 2006, 09:25 PM
Ok, so here are the latest news about our darling Toulouse. The neutering for tomorrow is cancelled. His rhino has gotten too severe now - stress probably didn't help much - and he can only breathe through the mouth, so intubating him is out of the question. We've started a course of antibiotics and we've rescheduled his neutering in two weeks. We'll deal with the big "matou" smell for a little bit longer... ;)

A bit of a sad discovery, although I know Toulouse is strong and has already learned to live with it: his eye injury is worse than we thought. Actually, there is no eye left. He was probably in a fight and had a puncture wound. We are going to treat the infection and when we neuter him, we'll simply close the eyelids for cosmetic and hygienic purposes. He'll look like a pirate ! :cool: Funny enough, for those who know the French character, Toulouse's adoptive mom (yes, he has an adoptive mom waiting for him) called him "le pirate Maboule" when she first saw his picture... maybe she knew it all along ?

So anyways, off he goes to his forever home tomorrow, for his antibiotic treatment and a lot of TLC, then he'll make a very quick trip back to the vet in two weeks for the big snip, and his lonely days outside will be just an old dream... and knowing his new mommy like I know her, I should be able to post pictures of him quite soon... :thumbs up

PS SOS Miow, if your offer for a foster home still stands, why not take in catsnatcher-CDN's beautiful Maine Coon ? You'd probably place him quite easily ! :love:

poodletalk
January 25th, 2006, 09:32 PM
It's sad to read about Toulouse's eye, but I am happy to know he will be in a home where he will be loved and appreciated. I can't wait for updates and pictures of him when he's in his new family.

Cat snatcher, if my vet recommended this family, then they are quality family who takes excellent care of their animals. I should find out tomorrow what my dogwalker has decided, I also will be seeing my vet on Saturday. The farmer raises chickens, they live in the SouthShore, there barn cat just recently died so they are looking for another one.

catsnatcher-CDN
January 25th, 2006, 09:39 PM
Thanks Poodletalk,

The barn life would be for Thelma and/or Louise. If he has room for both, I'd rather keep them together but i'll settle for anything. Also they would need to remain confined for at least 6 months to prevent their escape.

Thanks Poodletalk, I'll check back daily. :fingerscr

catsnatcher-CDN
January 25th, 2006, 09:40 PM
Thanks Poodletalk,

The barn life would be for Thelma and/or Louise. If he has room for both, I'd rather keep them together but i'll settle for anything. Also they would need to remain confined for at least 6 months to prevent their escape.

Thanks Poodletalk, I'll check back daily. :fingerscr

Inverness, good thing Toulouse is in your hands now and finally safe and warm.

badger
January 25th, 2006, 11:12 PM
Inverness, did the vet give you an estimate of Toulouse's age?
I know blood panels are expensive, but was he tested for FIV, etc?
Poor baby, I was hoping it was herpes which, while not pleasant, eventually resolves. And, of course, I wonder now if I had gotten to him sooner...
Thank you Inverness (and everyone who pitched in), and thank you to the kind woman who is adopting him, of course her love will be returned a thousandfold. As Chico says, tissue time!

Sorry to hijack here, on to the next rescue eh?

chico2
January 26th, 2006, 08:34 AM
Inverness,forgive my ignorance,but is Rhino something serious??

poodletalk
January 26th, 2006, 08:48 AM
No Chico, rhino is not serious. He will need to take antibotics and stay away from other cats since it's contagious. Rhino is like a cold in cats and it's airborne.

chico2
January 26th, 2006, 09:06 AM
Poodletalk thank's! I've had cats forever,but there still is much I don't know:confused:
:fingerscr that nothing else will pop up:fingerscr ,but no matter what,he is warm and safe!

Lucky Rescue
January 26th, 2006, 10:36 AM
Nearly all the stray and abandoned cats get rhino (upper respiratory infection) once rescued. It can be serious or even fatal in tiny kittens or old or sick cats. It usually needs no treatment in healthy adults and passes in about two weeks, unless secondary infection occurs.

My two 6 month old fosters here had it when I got them and they were sneezing blood all over the place.:(

poodletalk
January 26th, 2006, 06:00 PM
Catsnatcher,

It looks like the cat my dogwalker found will be going to the farm! I will ask my vet on Saturday if she knows anyone else who has a heated barn.

Inverness
January 27th, 2006, 07:35 PM
The royal suite while Toulouse heals and learns to trust... :)

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http://img95.imageshack.us/img95/773/jesuisbeau9aw.jpg

badger
January 27th, 2006, 07:50 PM
What a sweet picture. And all those lovely windows! I forgot to tell you, Inverness, he is very fond of canned food. I never once got him to eat crunchies, even Wellness.

Lucky Rescue
January 27th, 2006, 10:27 PM
Seeing these pics is a great end to a really lousy day!! I bet that sweet boy thinks he died and went to Kitty Heaven.:thumbs up

chico2
January 28th, 2006, 08:46 AM
Oh yes,these pics are the best picker-uppers I could ever ask for:thumbs up
Lucky,lucky Tolouse to have been saved from a winter of misery:pawprint:

Inverness
January 28th, 2006, 09:21 AM
Lucky Toulouse, but one of so many homeless creatures... so let's keep trying for the others, right ?

chico2
January 28th, 2006, 09:35 AM
Inverness,yes,the situation with so many others is heartbreaking,it seems a never ending story:sad:
45 cats in Lancaster,Catsnatchers poor cats and I am sure a thousand others,but to see Toulouse safe is still a great feeling..
I also wish I could be more pro-active,was younger,could have more than my own 3 cats:sad: