December 6th, 2005, 11:05 PM
I am at my wits end! My Border Collie has had 4 treatments with surolan and regular cleanings with Epi-otic, It just keeps coming back as soon as the surolan is finished. The vets just want to keep him on surolan! Its getting rediculously expensive with no results! I need some suggestions! Poor guy is going crazy, it really bothers him! HELP PLEASE!!:sick:
December 6th, 2005, 11:09 PM
Have you tried changing foods? Ear issues can be allergy related, and I'd start with changing foods. Eliminate corn and wheat and change protein sources first.:)
December 6th, 2005, 11:30 PM
Sorry this is so long, but some of this information may be useful. I used the Blue Power on my cat's ears and after two or three treatments, they were clear.
16 Oz. bottle of Isopropyl Alcohol (standard 70%)
4 Tablespoons of Boric Acid Powder
16 Drops of Gentian Violet Solution 1%
Mix together in alcohol bottle and shake well.
shake solution every time you use it to disperse the Boric Acid Powder.
Purchase a flexible plastic bottle with the opening at the top so that the solution may be gently squeezed out and dispense solution to affected ears. The ideal is a hair-dye bottle available at a pharmacy, Wal-Mart, Target, etc, or a beauty supply store.
1) Evaluate condition of ears before treating and if very inflamed and sore:
do not attempt to pull hair or clean out ear at all. Just flush and then wait until inflammation has subsided, which will be about two days.
2) Warm the solution (as instructed above) and shake the bottle each time before
using it for treatment,.
3) Flood the ear with solution (gently squirt bottle).
4) Massage gently to the count of 60, wipe with a tissue.
5) On first treatment: flood the ear twice, wipe with a tissue, and leave alone without massage.
6) The dog will shake out the excess, which can be wiped with a tissue.
Note: the Gentian Violet does stain fabrics, etc. so you may want to wear gloves.
The SCHEDULE of treatment is as follows:
• Treat TWICE a day for the first week to two weeks, depending upon severity
• After the second or third day you can clean out the ear with a Q-tip or cotton
balls (see caution below).
• Treat ONCE a day for the next 1-2 weeks.
• Treat ONCE a month (or even less frequently, depending on the dog).
Caution: When using a Q-tip, only insert it as far into the ear canal as you can actually see. Use care to prevent the gunk from falling down into the ear canal.
Note: All of these ingredients should be available at a pharmacy, and some
will special order items for you. One brand of the Gentian Violet 1% solution
is "Humco" and the one ounce bottle typically sells for slightly over $3. It is
called an "Antiseptic First Aid Antiinfective". The Boric Acid powder in the 4 ounce size typically sells for about$3.25 and is usually in stock at the pharmacy.
Users of the Blue Power Ear Treatmenthave found that despite the alcohol, the dog will not object to even the first treatment. The Boric Acid Powder
soothes the ear. The Gentian Violet Solution is an anti-infection agent, as it
is a dye mixture that acts as a bactericide, fungicide, and anthelmintic
(destroys worms). Remember, gentian violet will stain fur, clothing, etc.
The Blue Power Ear Treatment as detailed above appears to work well on any and all ear problems from mites to wax to canker. The success rate for this treatment is said to be 95-99%. Those who do not succeed have usually not done the treatment long enough or have not been regular about it. According to the reports, dogs on the verge of ear canal surgery have been
returned to normal with only the regular follow-up treatment to keep the ear
healthy (www.ItsForTheAnimals.com ) If an infection seems to be remaining in the treated ear after the above course of treatment, may also be some Pseudomonas bacteria in the site. This can be eradicated by using a gentle flush of raw apple cider vinegar and water (warmed). Use 2 Tablespoons of vinegar to one cup of water (warmedup), TWICE per week. The Blue Power Ear Treatment has been found to be effective for treating fungus type infections on the feet and elsewhere on the dog.
One gal let me know that her dog's ear
problem responded only when the
Gentian Violet was omitted. Another
gal, Diane Whitehouse, a Poodle fancier,
states: "First, the stuff has worked
miracles for us, too! I'm so glad to know
about it ... the recipe I was initially given
years ago called for 16 drops of 2%
Gentian Violet, rather than 1%. I've
always mixed it that way, and passed
that along to a couple of Poodle friends
who did not have success with the recipe
[with only 1% Gentian Violet] on your web page. In both cases, adding the
additional Gentian Violet resulted in
success. She adds a helpful caution:
"And.....my initial instructions also say
"The vet must rule out a punctured
ear drum before using The Blue
Power Ear Treatment." The one
Poodle friend who told me his Poodle
reacted as though treatment was very
painful took his girl to the vet and
learned she did have a punctured ear
After your dog's ears are
looking normal for a while, it really
would be a good idea to find out what is
actually causing the ear problem.
As mentioned in the book, It's For The
Animals! Natural Care & Resources,
back when I was feeding commercial
feed, my dogs' and cats' ears had quite a
bit of that 'black gunk' in them. In 1984,
I'd been told by my holistic vet, Richard
Kearns, DVM, that this was one of the
body's ways of detoxifying itself. Sure
enough, after being fed only fresh foods
for a few months, that 'black gunk'
Also, it's been my experience, and that
of many others, to notice a favorable
improvement in their dog's and cat's
ears-- and overall health, when the
following three supplements mentioned
below added to the diet.
Three Important Considerations Which
May Be Related to Ear Problems:
1) Probiotics These are commonly
referred to as intestinal flora
'normalizers', Acidophilus, Lactobacillus
Acidophilus, and Bifidus are what I've
used. Known as the friendly bacteria,
they're found in a healthy intestinal tract
and are crucial for good health and
proper absorption of nutrients.
According to a recent study (Hamilton-
Miller 1996), only 2 out of 13 products
had what their label claimed in viable
friendly bacteria. So, I buy only the
refrigerated brands, either powder or
capsules, and rotate the strain.
Some of the experts suggest that only
one strain of Probiotics be taken at a
time because they compete with each
other. These products are found in the
health food stores' refrigerated cases.
2) Digestive Enzymes To my
knowledge, Prozyme Digestive Enzyme
formula is the only digestive enzyme
product with peer-reviewed scientific
studies to prove that it increases the
absorption of vital nutrients (up to a 71%
increase), including EFAs (Essential
Fatty Acids). Prozyme comes in a
powder that is sprinkled on top of the
food in the dish at dinnertime. I also
sprinkle a capsule of Pancreatin (any
brand) on the food for my older dog's
protein digestion. First-time users of
Prozyme may get a free 85-gram trial
size by calling Prozyme at 800/522-
5537, there's just a $5 shipping and
3) Essential Fatty Acids (EFAs)
My favorite EFA is Omega Nutrition's
certified organic, Hemp Seed Oil as it is
said to be 'nature's perfectly balanced
Another good organic EFA blend is
Omega Nutrition's Essential Balance
and has the 1:1 Ratio of omega-6 to
Another very good organic EFA
blend is Barlean's Omega Twin and it's
available in the refrigerated case of most
health food stores or you can call 800/
445-3529 for the nearest distributor.
In addition to the EFA's, I add a good
amount of butter (preferably organic) in
addition to broth (from cooking bones)
in the water that the grains are cooked
for "Helen's Big Batch Recipe".
Some people have found that their dog's
ear problem was related to thyroid
dysfunction. So, you may want to
consider having a complete thyroid
panel test through Hemopet and more
information is available at the following:
HTM 714/ 891-2022 (Pacific Time).
I suspect the pesticide
residue in the conventionally grown
grains could very well be the culprit for
what some folks refer to as a "grain
allergy" in their dogs. Pesticides are just
one of the chemicals that can be
adversely affecting our companions (and
us). Seriously consider feeding only
organic food and supplements.
Since 1978, I've been following a
holistic approach to health. In March of
1995, after reading Ann Martin's article
in Natural Pet magazine, Does Your Dog
Food Bark? A Study of the Pet Food
Fallacy, I completely eliminated
commercially manufactured feed stuff. I
just can't consider it healthy food.
Remember, most animals should have
this transition to fresh foods gradually. I
also avoid exposure to other chemicals,
including flea/tick preparations,
unnecessary vaccinations, and
Toxins can be chemicals which may be:
• Absorbed either through the skin as in topical flea/tick treatments, dips, shampoos
or through the paws as with cleaning products, and pressure treated lumber
• Inhaled - room fresheners, indoor/outdoor pollution and outgassing of new carpeting.
• Ingested - pesticide-laden food, heartworm drugs, antibiotics, or other medications.
• Injected - vaccinations and other drugs. Be advised that all vaccine manufacturers' package inserts say: "Only healthy animals should be vaccinated". Even a rash, itchiness, or a slight infection means that an animal is NOT healthy and should NOT be vaccinated.
Another factor contributing to ear
infections may be all those
vaccinations that the animals are
Since 1994, my animals have NOT
received those notorious annual
"booster" vaccinations. because I'd read
the quote from from Kirk's Current
Veterinary Therapy, Volume XI "A
practice that was started many years ago
and that lacks scientific validity or
verification is annual revaccinations.".1
By becoming educated and making the
changes for the better, I know that it has
helped my companion animals to be
healthier and happier.
Also see this Web Page:
tm "How we treat ear infections" "....fill
the ears with a natural ear medication
(antibacterial and antifungal) called
"Zymox-E" once a day for 5 days."
Other people have been using Colloidal
Silver (CS) with great success -- which
is very dependent upon the particular
brand or quality of CS. Some folks have
seen immediate results with CS, whereas
the Blue Power Ear Treatment may take
several days to notice improvement. I
would think that it would be better to
warm the solution prior to putting it into
an animal's ear. This can be
accomplished by simply soaking the
bottle in a bowl of hot water. The
typical method is to use an eye dropperfull
of CS in each ear to thoroughly coat
the entire area every two hours, and most
folks notice that the animal will no
longer be shaking his or her head. Then,
treat with half a dropper-full every two
hours. Also, after applying the CS, it's
recommended to gently wipe the ear
with a wash cloth soaked in warm water
(wrung out) and then repeat this an hour
later. Treat twice a day for the first few
days, then after improvement is
noticeable, reduce the treatment to once
a day, and later to once every other day.
It's suggested that optimal results are
obtained when CS is used frequently and
in small doses. Caution: if you must
dilute Colloidal Silver, CS, use distilled
water or well water. Tap water,
typically contains chlorine and when
combined with silver it creates silver
chloride which is NOT to be used.
Many people consider the CS available
at the Health Foods Stores to be of
inferior quality as it's not really true
electro colloidal silver but a diluted
liquid of silver protein. It's not a
panacea, and will only be effective if it
actually comes in contact with the viral,
bacterial or fungal infection. Keep it
refrigerated and if it gets cloudy, discard
it. One reliable source I've found to
obtain high-quality CS (total silver PPM
will be between 5 to 15), is Rich
Adams, e-mail: firstname.lastname@example.org
5106 Northern Ave., Kansas City, MO
64133 I ordered it from him, at $5.00 a
quart. Typically, he puts two quarts at
$5.00 each, then ships Priority Mail (6 1/2
lbs.). For his information about
Additional information about Colloidal
Silver is here: www.silverlist.com
Some folks are recommending a liquid
herbal product specifically formulated
for companion animals: "Natural Ear
Comfort" by BioPathics
They are the manufacturers of the
product which is so helpful for joints and
connective tissue health, "Cartilade". I
would appreciate hearing from folks
who have found it to be effective.
December 6th, 2005, 11:40 PM
I think that breaks the record for longest post..:D :party:
December 7th, 2005, 07:49 AM
I was just reading up on Gentian Violet, and didn't realize that studies have shown it to be carcinogenic and mutagenic with long term use (in rats). I have used in the past. It's made out of a coal tar.
December 9th, 2005, 04:07 PM
I would also recommend a food change. My dog had recurrent ear infections as well that we kept treating, but eventually we figured out that it was a food allergy.
December 9th, 2005, 04:43 PM
I also agree with Prin and Hunter's Owner.