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I think this may be a lab!! SICK

happycats
November 15th, 2005, 09:12 PM
Cross posting, I think this is a lab, they will go to great lengths to get poor pets to experiment on, there should be a law against this!!!!
The following email has been posted to some of the cat yahoo groups
I am on. Please cross post to make all aware of this.....Pam In NJ

We will pay for rescued Cats and Dogs
by ****, 11/11/05 20:30 ET
Hello well intentioned people,
My company has an immediate need for 300 small dogs and 500 cats.
De-clawed cats are fine! The animals need to be fairly healthy
animals. They need to be alive for at least 30 days after our intake.

The price for these animals are as follows:

If we pickup in Arkansas or Mississippi $5 = cats, $9 = dogs

If animal is shipped to our home office in New Jersey (address to
follow) $25 = cats, $29 = dogs

In addition to this, we are providing an incentive to the person who
rescues the most animals for us. At the end of December, we will
tally up the rescue efforts. The person who we conclude to be the
greatest asset will win an all inclusive trip to Las Vegas, Nevada
for two people for 5 days. This will include air transportation from
Louisiana, hotel stay at 3 star or better resort, meal tickets for 2
meals per person a day, entertainment coupons including 1 fully paid
entertainment concert, and $300 in casino comps spending monies.

We are really concerned about the well being of the cats and dogs
after the Hurricane and want to do our part to insure the animals welfare.

For more information please contact:

Myself, *******

Our website is
****** "Companion
animals Veterinary medicines and vaccines help to keep them healthy
and permit the human / animal interaction that benefits human
physical, emotional and psychological well-being. "

*******

Joey.E.CockersMommy
November 15th, 2005, 09:34 PM
I saw the website its definately a lab, they say they only use animals if they have to, but then they are asking for 300 dogs and 500 cats. Also that trip to Las Vegas for bringing in the most stray animals is in poor taste IMO.

Also I wouldn't call capturing a dog or cat and selling it to a labratory a rescue.

happycats
November 15th, 2005, 09:49 PM
I just sent them an email, to see what they have to say for themselves!

CyberKitten
November 15th, 2005, 11:25 PM
This is indeed a research lab studying a variety of illnesses and issues. They will claim they are one of the best in the US, they are associated with universities - they are, Princeton amg others. How horrible to actually hold this contest - this is an inducement to bunchers to grab pets and any "strays". Yet another reason to ensure your cat stays indoors!!! And dogs are on a leash!!!!

twodogsandacat
November 15th, 2005, 11:41 PM
Or it's a hoax trying to implicate the company in exploitation of Katrina and Rita hurricane victims. Don’t get me wrong but I think somebody may be trying to exploit the four-legged victims of Katrina and Rita to discredit this company more.

We are really concerned about the well being of the cats and dogs after the Hurricane and want to do our part to insure the animals welfare.

No rescue in Mississippi or Arkansas would sell rescued victims to a lab. It stinks of ‘misinformation’ to me. The reason could possibly be in hopes of flooding their email and phone systems.

I say somebody should email them and ask if they really posted this.

Prin
November 16th, 2005, 12:08 AM
Well the person's title is "toxicologist" and I had a job offer as a toxicologist for a pharma company and my job was to kill 200 monkeys, 50 dogs and 40 cats by gradually upping their dose of a certain drug. (I didn't take the job, of course).

Don't send your animals to this person (unless of course you have no morals, no heart and no soul).

twodogsandacat
November 16th, 2005, 12:15 AM
Well the person's title is "toxicologist" and I had a job offer as a toxicologist for a pharma company and my job was to kill 200 monkeys, 50 dogs and 40 cats by gradually upping their dose of a certain drug. (I didn't take the job, of course).

Don't send your animals to this person (unless of course you have no morals, no heart and no soul).

I have no doubt this is a lab. I do have doubts that they posted the text at the top of the page.

Good for you to turn that job down. You have to be able to live with yourself and I couldn;t do it no matter what it lead to a cure for.

White Wolf you removed ALL the personal info. Can I post a link to the web site for the testing company?

Prin
November 16th, 2005, 12:20 AM
Oh, I definitely could never do that for a living. I figure that the people who get into vet school without ever having cared for an animal are destined for those cruel and disgusting jobs. Just leaving the interview I was so upset. I was told beforehand that it would be an animal health job- far from it- more like animal death job.:sad: :mad:

White Wolf
November 16th, 2005, 12:20 AM
I think it's a bad idea to post their info because it becomes publicity for them anyway. I think it's enough to say they are a lab and if anybody gets an offer like this, they should be aware of the motivation behind it. What purpose would it serve to have their website on here?

twodogsandacat
November 16th, 2005, 12:28 AM
I think it's a bad idea to post their info because it becomes publicity for them anyway. I think it's enough to say they are a lab and if anybody gets an offer like this, they should be aware of the motivation behind it. What purpose would it serve to have their website on here?

Because the lab has a statement regarding it’s testing of animals. It is informative and as I usually say in cases like this - where the truth is ugly - it is real.

I agree with removing the phone and name of the employee as I doubt the authenticity of the post but it’s just a link to a website.


Just a thought……

White Wolf
November 16th, 2005, 12:40 AM
If the post is not likely to be authentic then posting a website that appears to be affiliated with it is slander.

Posting a website of an institution that does not hide its animal testing is one thing, but posting it in the context of an employee offering to pay for pets for their testing, which we don't know is authentic, is slander.

Anybody could send an email claiming to be an employee of a company they don't agree with and I don't think the admins here would like us to take that chance.

twodogsandacat
November 16th, 2005, 12:45 AM
I didn't consider that angle. :thumbs up

CyberKitten
November 16th, 2005, 01:45 AM
I posted my info since I have heard of this company - whether they would do this I do not know. They are, however, a legitimate company and they claim to be one of the best in terms of how many animals they use in research Sadly, the fact is that while they do use animals in their research (and are affiliated with a certain Ivy League univ), they are actually correct in that they are one of the better orgs. Many are much worse!!

I would check snopes to see if this email is valid before vilifying them. There are so many fraudulant emails these days. Or ask them? Universities do pay people for animals but whether they would provide an incentive like this seems unlikely but I guess anything is possible, sighhhhhhhhhh!! The fact is much research can be done without animals and I wish more universties and labs would recognize this! I also wonder if in the world if academic politics (something I am too familiar with), that would be one way of getting back at a collegaue or competitor for grant money. Just my thoughts on the issue.

CyberKitten
November 16th, 2005, 01:51 AM
I think it might be best to close or remove this thread - this whole thing is a fraud. Somehow, I am not surprised. Here is the description by Snopes:

http://www.snopes.com/critters/crusader/huntingdon.asp