August 20th, 2005, 11:32 AM
What numbers of kilometres should I be worried about when looking for a used car. I currently drive a 1984 that has well over 700,000 km on it, so I didn't think a car with 150000 or 200000 would be bad, but now I'm hearing that most newer cars stop working around that point.
The other problem I'm having, is all the cars I'm inquiring about don't have service records.
August 20th, 2005, 11:36 AM
Hey Raingirl! 700,00kms!! That's awesome! Is it a honda or toyota you're driving now? From what I've found with used cars, is under 200,000kms is your best bet. If you like something with over 200,000 kms on it, then be careful about the price as you don't wanna be ripped off. What year and make of cars are you interested in?
August 20th, 2005, 12:51 PM
Depends how long you want it to run...
A Honda, or Toyota with 120 000kms has about 4 years of not very much trouble left.
A Honda or Toyota with under 80 000 kms is practically brand new.
A Ford, Chevy or Pontiac (or any sister company of the aforementioned), with maybe 50 000kms will get you a couple of years of not horrible (but definitely not terrific) reliability.
A Subaru with 80 000kms has a few years of better reliability left, but parts and repairs can be expensive even if there aren't many.
Keep in mind, the sportier the car or if the car has 4 wheel drive, it will most likely have had a harder driver in its past life, so the car might be in worse shape than the kms let on.
August 20th, 2005, 12:52 PM
700,000 km on a car is an amazing feat no matter what generation the car came from.
My Durango is crossing over 200,000 km shortly and I'll probably be trading it in for a new vehicle or almost new.
My experience is 200,000 km is around the mileage level when repairs seem to increase in frequency and reliability starts to become questionable.
Really, its mostly about the engine and even though my Durango has had regular servicing, it is nevertheless starting to use a lot of oil . . . not to the point where you see it belching out the tailpipe but its obvious things are fading.
So its time to trade it in.
I hate buying vehicles.
August 20th, 2005, 06:08 PM
my toyota has done over 800,000km and shes still going strong, shes a 92. BUT she has been serviced reglarly on a monthly basis and has had top care, she could literlaly go on forever..
oh but we imported a secoundhand engine from japan that is the sports series so that adds a bit of life too...
dont buy anything newish, its jsut a huge scam to get you to spend more money, secound hand and older to mean means reliable. funny but i would not trust a car built in the last 5yrs, i reckon they run scams now to shorten the life of new cars, so im not gunna be taken in that.....
August 20th, 2005, 07:20 PM
They average out 20,000 per year.
August 20th, 2005, 07:29 PM
The industry standard is about $15,000 according to the dealerships.
August 20th, 2005, 08:17 PM
raingirl, do you mean 15000kms/year? If so, I think that's a bit low. 20 000 is what my car insurance's average is. I don't think I have ever done below 20 in a year...
August 20th, 2005, 08:28 PM
Aparently the dealerships use 15000/year as a median point to base prices on. If the car is below, it's higher priced, if it's higher, it's lower priced.
August 20th, 2005, 08:31 PM
It is their way to have their coverge look like it lasts longer.
August 20th, 2005, 08:34 PM
Good luck finding a car with less than 15000kms/year... I got my 97 in 99 with 77000kms already. I'd almost rather there be far too many for the 15 000/year rule because then you know most likely they were highway kms and not just city driving...
August 20th, 2005, 08:47 PM
We bought brand new 3 yrs ago. The first year we put almost 40,000 on it. It is now closer to the average of 20,000. Most of the km's were city driving.
August 20th, 2005, 08:49 PM
Yes, but 77 000 in city kms in one year can only be done by a delivery guy or messenger... :eek: (I prefer not to think about it) :D
August 20th, 2005, 08:51 PM
We were living at the opposite side of town from where we worked.
August 20th, 2005, 08:53 PM
We were living at the opposite side of town from where we lived.
Wow, is that a paradox? :D :D
August 20th, 2005, 09:00 PM
Well just saying that it is possible to put those km's on it w/o being a delivery driver not that I enjoyed doing so.
August 20th, 2005, 09:08 PM
LOL no, you wrote that you lived on the opposite side of town from where you lived... It's funny. No?
August 20th, 2005, 09:22 PM
sorry didn't even realize, i'll fix that right now.
August 20th, 2005, 09:23 PM
But it was a funny paradox... :o
August 20th, 2005, 09:24 PM
ha, maybe there were two houses.
August 20th, 2005, 09:25 PM
Or maybe it was a realllllly big house...