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ReRun has a prostate problem....

2NOFLEAS
August 19th, 2005, 06:52 PM
ReRun is a male(obviously) greyhound (intact) who turned 10 in April. He's on antibodics now to try to control the swelling in his prostate. This started after one accident on the carpet at 2am. His white count was up and after 3 days on antibodics a bacteria showed. After 2 ultrasounds and many blood and urine tests there is also a small fluid filled sac on it. At this time it doesn't appear to be cancer. One doctor is suggesting neutering to "possibly" not postively reduce the prostate and hopefully the sac (cyst) will go away too....another says since he's not having any issues or symthoms... why put him under that stress and risk of putting him under. We didn't have him done early upon advisement of other vets that he was over 4 and the risk is always higher in greys especially his size(he's almost 100lbs of meat no fat!). Otherwise he's very heathly. I just lost my girl Lambie in December due in part to Rocky Mtn Spotted fever and possible cancer of the spleen (the test sample they did was so bad they couldn't get enough cell structure to definitely define it). So.... I'm nervous about ReRun and so are the vets that know about Lambie. (Note No we've never bred him - he was intact when we got him from the track.) Looking for additional advice to help make the final choice.... to cut or not to cut.... that is the question. (Dad says if it's broke - fix it... it not - don't). Thanks T :confused:

Puppyluv
August 19th, 2005, 08:02 PM
I think you'll find that almost everyone here will say to fix him. It seems that you have no reason not to, and there are always plenty of good reasons to.

the gang
August 19th, 2005, 08:23 PM
so sorry to hear about your little one, but this i guess is stupid of me to ask, but my daughter has 2 greys that she rescued from the track , and from what i know they have to be fixed before leaving to go to there new home, how come your little one was not fixed? but i would fix him to try and keep him around as long as i could. :confused:

Karin
August 19th, 2005, 08:34 PM
That's strange. I have never seen a greyhound off of the tracks being adopted intact. Greyhound racing is very popular in the south and I have placed to many to count, lost even more to euthanasia because of lack of enough homes. Greyhounds are pretty tightly sanctioned in the states.
A very good friend of mine is one of the few breeders here in Florida. I can get a puppy from her If I want, but it must be spayed before leaving her kennel. ( I wanted a female) Not even for a good friend would she let one slip under the fence. I was only inquiring over lunch one day....pre Ciara.

How did you manage to obtain an intact former racer?

Karin
August 19th, 2005, 08:40 PM
so sorry to hear about your little one, but this i guess is stupid of me to ask, but my daughter has 2 greys that she rescued from the track , and from what i know they have to be fixed before leaving to go to there new home, how come your little one was not fixed? but i would fix him to try and keep him around as long as i could. :confused:

Beat me to it! Now, get out of my head..lmao!

I guess inquiring minds want to know.....

2NOFLEAS
August 20th, 2005, 08:07 AM
We got him 1 day after retirement .... they hadn't gotten him to the vet yet to even get him checked out.... things have changed since then.... now they don't let them out..... I'l love for a vet to respond and get their opinion too.
Thank you everyone for your thoughts and concerns. My nerves are getting very thin these days. T :pawprint:

Prin
August 20th, 2005, 01:59 PM
The vets aren't on here often, to be honest. If you want a second opinion, you should contact another vet in your area, maybe a specialist? Good luck. I hope this furry has more time.

Honestly, I would have had him done at 4. My old dobie was done at 3 with no ill effects- you might not get the behavioral effects, but you eliminate so many possible health problems.

I would get a full blood work up to see how the kidneys are and the overall health, and if that is all perfect, I'd get the surgery.

2NOFLEAS
August 20th, 2005, 04:05 PM
We talked to our vet again today.... I told him... 1 out of 5 human males are subject prostate problems and cancer but we don't go around neutering all human males.... he agreed.....when younger in dogs - it's the same... it's all chance..... a greyhound has a better chance of dieing from being put under than they do of prostate cancer.... I didn't see it as a good enough risk to have him done. NOW that he has problems - everything else is healthy - we're sceduling him to have it done - with dogs it's the best and only true solution. In humans they have meds to relieve the problems. (doesn't sound fair). I talked to some of the best vets in New England to get this information. But... we won't hesistate when it comes for care with our babies. We spent over $4000 on Lambie - and we still lost her.

mona_b
August 20th, 2005, 04:07 PM
I would get a full blood work up to see how the kidneys are and the overall health, and if that is all perfect, I'd get the surgery.

I have to agree with this.

Also,you say he is almost 100lbs,has the vet mentioned anything to you about his weight?.This is quite heavy for a Greyhound,even a retired racer.The standard is usually around 70lbs.

When I was at our SPCA last week,someone adopted a beautiful Yellow Lab.He left intact and about 15-20lbs overweight.I asked someone why they let him go intact.The response was"he was to heavy and had breathing issues"...Hubby and I were in the left lane and the new owner was in the right lane about three feet further up.Can you believe this dog was panting so hard,and I guess being so heavy that the car was actually shaking.And this was a new Monte Carlo.We got right beside him,I said holy crap,he's shaking the whole car..He laughed.

2NOFLEAS
August 20th, 2005, 04:26 PM
Already did the blood work... all is fine...... :love: :fingerscr
His whole litter was this big.... my girl is 90lbs.... same for her family! Guess kisses and hugs just come in larger sizes in our family! Doc's are always amazed at the size of these two.... they both stay on 4s higher than my waist. When I had ReRun measured for a coat - she made he redo it 4 times she was so amazed at the size! NOT A BIT OF FAT on either! One doc said Cofax looks like a greyhound head on a bull dog body! She's just all "beef"!
Doc says ReRun is the healthest 10yr they have ever seen - even his teeth! (except for this problem now). The world's record for a grey (racing) was 107. ReRun was 110 about 6mos after we first got him(that was winter - he lost 5lbs by spring- wish I could do that! :p ) after we first got him. He usually averages 96-99 now. :pawprint:

justncase
August 20th, 2005, 07:36 PM
A friend had a dog with an enlarged prostate pressing on the urinary tract so that the dog couldn't urinate. The prostate was very enlarged. He was neutered and then began the manually expressing the bladder several times a day so that the dog could urinate while waiting for the prostate to go down. One week passed. It didn't go down . Two weeks passed. It still didn't go down. Three weeks passed and the vet started saying it was cancer and that the owner just wasn't facing that fact. It got rather nasty as the vet insisted that the owner was just wasting everyone's time , that dog had cancer, and he knew cancer because his father had cancer of the prostate..Still the owner hung on and by the fourth week, the prostate started to go down. In five weeks the prostate was its normal size. Cancer? No. The vet? Speechless.

2NOFLEAS
August 20th, 2005, 09:03 PM
Very Interesting and good information to keep. So far ReRun has no problems going.... thank goodness. And it's only slightly enlarged. So we're catching it very early.... thanks to a mom with sharp eyes, good attention, good intuition and a nervous heart. :love: :pawprint:

ps: hope your friend's baby is doing fine now. Thank you for your input.

2NOFLEAS
August 22nd, 2005, 01:37 PM
We're scheduled for July 31. We found a vet that takes care of all the critters from Greyhound Pets of America - Central NH Chapter and is less than half the price of our regular vet. (now to give our vet the news!).
Thanks everyone for the virtual shoulder to lean on. Time for ice cream now.... it's my birthday and I think we all earned it! :crazy: :party: :pawprint: :pawprint: