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My Dog has seizures once in a while

polardude1983
August 10th, 2005, 11:54 PM
I have a medium size dog. who has seizures once in a while, he has had two tonight. and the last one he has had was in may...it started in september of 05'.

yes we have taken him to a vet and he has given us medicine..but we do not know why he is having them. but the strange thing is that he always has them late at night and when he is sleeping.

could it be because of his food which is kibbles and bits? which has BHA? or
could it be human food?
stress?
his dreams?

pls...if anyone has info please respond...we did give him more medication tonight..but i am just wondering if anybody has a solution..so we dont have to keep him on medication all his life. He is only 2 years old and is having seizures. his parents have not had seizures so family history is out of the question now. pls someone respond

White Wolf
August 10th, 2005, 11:55 PM
Can you "wake" him up when he is seizing?

polardude1983
August 11th, 2005, 12:00 AM
well what happens is he is sleeping and then he gets a seizure..and he starts violently moving around and is obviously awake...but has no control over what he does. then when the seizure is done he gets up and slowly walks around sniffing things...but then maybe later he gets it later again that night. So he is awake when having them...or he gets woken up

White Wolf
August 11th, 2005, 12:01 AM
But in the middle of one, can you stop it? What I mean is are you sure they're not just vivid or violent dreams?

polardude1983
August 11th, 2005, 12:06 AM
no they are not violent dreams..because he
convulses, pees, slobbers, foams, howls, poops, and moves eradically more then a dream would do...and no my fiancee tried to stop it....and i will tell you that it did not go to well

White Wolf
August 11th, 2005, 12:07 AM
Has the vet checked for brain tumors?

polardude1983
August 11th, 2005, 12:12 AM
no the vet has not....but that would cost a lot of money...which we dont have to much right now...

but he does have a soft spot somewhere on his head not sure if that is related....also he does hit himself on the head a lot

because whenever the door opens he runs out and sometimes hits himself on the head...which is not good..but he has hit himself on the head numerous times.

but it could be because of maybe the dog food? because it has BHA and BHA can i think give seizures..but it could be because of him hitting himself on the head...but i would like to find out what it is exactly and how we can prevent it. thx white wolf for replying so far :thumbs up

Luba
August 11th, 2005, 12:18 AM
What did the vet diagnose exactly?
What is the name and dosage of the medication?
When was the last time you were at the vet?
At what age did this start?
Have you done any follow ups with the vet?
Seen any specialists?
What breed is the dog?
You said the parents don't have this condition, did the dog come from a breeder? Have you contacted the breeder?

polardude1983
August 11th, 2005, 12:29 AM
well the dogs parents did not come from a breeder they are mutts..and we have both of the dogs parents. We have a dalmation/labador named penny and a collie mix named durango. well one of the puppies that we kept from their litter is Bear.

Bear is now 2 years old. he is the one that is having the seizures...but his parents are also our dogs. and they have not had any seizures

the breed of bear is dalmation/labador/collie mix so basically a mutt :)

well these seizures started last september of '05

we had seen a vet in may..that is when he gave us the medication...he did not have any till now...and my fiancee is contacting the vet right now...but also my fiancee and i live in seperate homes since we are not married ( just for your information)

she is trying to get a hold of him

so the seizures basically started at 2 years old

not sure of the medication name right now or what he diagnosed..but i can find out

coppperbelle
August 11th, 2005, 05:57 AM
I haven't had a dog with seizures so I cannot help you there. Kibbles and Bits is not a good food although I don't know if the fact that it contains BHA is the reason for the seizures.
Do you use bug spray on your dog? Deet is known to cause seizures in some dogs. The fact that he only gets them in the nice weather possibly means that there is something in his environment. Do you or a neighbor spray lawns with pesticides?

Writing4Fun
August 11th, 2005, 07:58 AM
When our Murphy started seizing :sad: we were told she had brain tumors. But that was because she was 11 years old at the time and had 6 seizures in a span of 2 hours. Your pup is still pretty young; I don't know how likely it is for him to have tumors at this age. We were told that each seizure was killing brain cells, so if your dog is seizing more frequently now, you should definitely take him to another vet or a specialist who can give you some answers. Give them as much info as you can - talk about the food, the possibility of pesticide poisoning, etc... Have them look into epilepsy as well - I don't know if these things can "skip" a generation, but with mutts, anything is possible. ;) Also, try to find a vet who will allow you to work out a payment plan. They don't advertise it, but if you speak with them directly and explain your situation, they might let you work out a deal. In the mean time, please get your dog off of Kibbles 'n' Bits. That is complete garbage as far as food goes - worse than McDonald's. :yuck: Search this forum for "dog food" and you'll find many, many lengthy discussions about which dog foods are better and why. Good luck with your pup, and please keep us posted.

polardude1983
August 11th, 2005, 09:31 AM
know we dont use bug spray. Also the dogs are pretty much inside dogs. but no we dont use bug spray.

as far as we putting pesticides or spraying our lawn no. I have never seen the neighbors do it either.

i will though try to look for other food on here thx. for the info of the food

Puppyluv
August 11th, 2005, 09:40 AM
Here's a list of high-end food brands, tried and tested by many of the members here:
Wellness
Innove
Chicken soup for the pet lovers Soul
Canidae
Solid Gold
Nutro
Eagle Pack Holistic

(List courtesy of Mona and then Prin)

Luba
August 11th, 2005, 10:04 AM
You have two mutts and allowed them to breed now you have health problems with a young dog.

When do you plan on spay and neuter so you don't produce any more pups?

Go back to the vet about the seizures since you haven't been there since May. I'm sure the vet gave you information regarding follow up care if the seizures continued.

You didn't indicate the name of the medication nor the amount, do you not know?

polardude1983
August 11th, 2005, 10:51 AM
the medicine that the vet gave us is phino-barbetol and he gets one every day.
and he gets vailume when he does have the seizures.

and yes the mother, penny, and the father durango are both spayed. because the mother penny is getting to old anyway

we will go to the vet today..since he did not call us back last night when he was having seizures..he had three last night. well i am also gonna check on what dog foods that we can buy

BMDLuver
August 11th, 2005, 10:57 AM
Polardude, as your budget is a bit tight, for foods, try either Nutro (sold at most petstores) or Kirkland(sold at Costco). At least you will be reducing the amount of red dye your dogs are intaking from the kibbles n bits. :)

The vet may need to adjust your young dog's meds so it's a good idea to have that visit today.

coppperbelle
August 11th, 2005, 02:04 PM
Polardude, as your budget is a bit tight, for foods, try either Nutro (sold at most petstores) or Kirkland(sold at Costco). At least you will be reducing the amount of red dye your dogs are intaking from the kibbles n bits. :)

The vet may need to adjust your young dog's meds so it's a good idea to have that visit today.

I agree with the above. If cost is an issue then I would check into the two above mentioned foods. They are good quality yet less expensive than some others that were mentioned.

Roxy's_MA
August 11th, 2005, 02:17 PM
I am very sorry to hear you and your dog are going through this. :grouphug:

Another high end dog food that I find less expensive is Acana. This food is made locally here. I am not sure if that is the reason for the lower price or not. The following link list places where you can purchase the food.

http://www.championpetfoods.com/

Roxy's_MA
August 11th, 2005, 02:29 PM
:sorry: I just realized you are from Texas. I am not sure you can buy the Acana food there. :o

polardude1983
August 11th, 2005, 04:00 PM
yeah you realized that i was from texas as soon as i realized this website was canada..oh well doesnt matter all dogs are the same.

but i did get some wellness for the dog and we are going to try that and introduce him to it. because i found here that wellness is a good dog food

Puppyluv
August 11th, 2005, 04:01 PM
Good choice :thumbs up
any news from the vet?

Prin
August 11th, 2005, 04:14 PM
You got Wellness?!? Yey!! What a lucky doggy!! Just an aside though, some doggies don't like it, so if you see him not eating with the same enthusiasm you might have to try another kind. (Foods with some kind of Fish Meal (like Salmon Meal) as a first or second ingredient are usually the tastiest.

I hope you get to the bottom of this doggy's problem. :fingerscr :grouphug:

Jackie467
August 11th, 2005, 04:18 PM
I just saw your thread. I hope your dog gets better. I am also in TX. Unfortunatly I don't know a lot about seziures. I do know that some dogs can have enviromental allergies that cause seziures but because they just started and he didn't have them when he was young I doubt that is the case here. Have you started using anything new to clean with? Anything new that you started using about the time the seziures started?

Wellness is a great food. That is what I use with my dog and it made her fur great. I used to feed Iams which is terrible and you wouldn't believe the difference since I switched her.

Puppyluv
August 11th, 2005, 04:49 PM
LOL we're like walking advertisements for our dogs' food! (I could go on and on about how much both Layla and I love Wellness). :D

polardude1983
August 11th, 2005, 04:51 PM
unfortunatly our vet is out of town, though there is a replacement. My fiancee did talk with him and did not seem to like the replacement.

but as far as any new cleaning things no....and to my mistake it was september of '04 not '05..woops...typo..

but yeah i found basically anything store bought is bad...we do not have a pet store in this town so we went to one nearby and they had just recently gotten wellness..and i was like oh ok lets try that, because i was like i heard it was a good food from these posts here.

Karin
August 11th, 2005, 07:43 PM
Once a dog is put on Phenobarbitol it takes sometimes up to a month to regulate his system. Your vet may adjust his dosage + or -, depending on your reports on how things are going or physical exams. Usually after 30 days the vet will recheck his blood again too. These rechecks & bloodwork are crucial in the first few months after starting Phenobarbitol.

There are many animals that live happy and full lives on this drug. Communication with your vet is the key. Good luck and keepus informed!

Luba
August 11th, 2005, 09:24 PM
You can't guage a vets knowledge and experience through a telephone call, make an appt.

Glad you now have fixed your other dogs. Hope this one is fixed too!

polardude1983
August 11th, 2005, 10:54 PM
yes the dog that has the seizures which his name is bear, is fixed...so all three dogs are fixed...

and bear has been on the medication since 7/1/05

so for a little more then a month now

just to let everyone know my fiancee and I still live with our parents since we are not married...she has her 3 dogs bear (one with seizures), durango (father), penny ( mother)

and i have my two dogs bethoveen( daughter) buster ( father of bethoveen) unfortunatly both of my dogs got our of the fence and got in a fight with a porcupine... fortunatly we got all the ones out of buster, but bethoveen we could not..and will be taking her to the vet..

Though Durango is really my fiancee's and My dog...the others are our parents dogs. just a fyi

polardude1983
August 11th, 2005, 11:29 PM
and since i am getting the wellness dog food.

are denta-stix and dental chews not sure who makes them but are they bad? also they sometimes get Ol' Roy dog biscuits.. does anybody know if these are bad? or are there better? or these ok..since they dont get them to much..just wanting to know

Luba
August 12th, 2005, 12:47 AM
I'm going out on a limb for this one but I just HAVE to!!

Polardude you have a very unique sense of humour.

Unfortunately others don't seem to be catching on to it as I have.

Perhaps they will soon enough.