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Keeper

poodletalk
June 28th, 2005, 02:03 PM
I just received an e-mail from the organization where Keeper was brought too. They confirmed that he was euthanised today!

Keeper buddy, rest in peace! I wish I took you when I had the chance! This would have never have happened! We tried Keeper to get you out, but the people wouldn't budge about releasing you. You deserved better than this!

sammiec
June 28th, 2005, 02:08 PM
This makes me so mad. I can't even type on this forum what I am feeling right now.


RIP dear Keeper. :sad:

Beaglemom
June 28th, 2005, 02:20 PM
This is just so very sad. I just don't know what to say. Keeper's story has brought me to tears many times. I feel horrible that Keeper was never given the chance on the life he so deserved. Such a young life needlessly taken.

pags
June 28th, 2005, 02:32 PM
I am furious and sad at the same time. FURIOUS. Do you know what we would have given for our puppy to have been well enough to have gotten into our garden or chewed a hole in our wall??

Keeper, sweetheart... Just for you.. My husband and I are going out tonight when he gets home.. And we're going to chop down two of our favorite hydrangeas in your honor. And next year when they don't bloom and our neighbors ask what happened to them.. we will take that opportunity to tell them about YOU and maybe just maybe someone will listen... and in your honor maybe someone will think twice about throwing another little life away.

All the way down here on the coast of the Gulf of Mexico - you will be remembered and honored and your story will be told. I promise you. Rest in peace, baby. You won't be forgotten. :angel:

heeler's rock!
June 28th, 2005, 03:16 PM
You're in our thoughts Keeper. You didn't ask to be brought into this world, and you certainly didn't ask for the a**holes that adopted you to be so cruel. Your life was worth more than some stinkin' hydrangeas or a little hole in the wall that could be patched up!

Poodletalk, what did you mean when you said: We tried Keeper to get you out, but the people wouldn't budge about releasing you. ?

The Ottawa SPCA, who supposedly "assured" the adoptive mom that he wouldn't be euthanized, wouldn't adopt him out???? I hope that's not the case!

Keeper, your story will be told here in Calgary aswell. If only you knew how much the people on this site cared about you, but no one gave us the chance to save you! Rest in peace little Keeper. :(

angie79
June 28th, 2005, 03:20 PM
I really can't beleive that!!! the referance to the flowers helped me remember the baby we were so angry about the other day, (not mad at him).
I and others offered to try to help find a home

RIP
Keeper now you can be the puppy that you weren't aloud to be...

Cooper ate new my shoe yesterday..... and he's staying right here with his family... but I will look at that shoe and think of Keeper.

chico2
June 28th, 2005, 03:28 PM
Poodletalk,I was hoping beyond hope,Keeper had been saved..I am sooo very angry and crying at the same time,sometimes I just HATE the human race :sad:

poodletalk
June 28th, 2005, 03:41 PM
Chico, I was hoping for a miracle! I know thousands of dogs and cats die everyday. Keeper was just a misunderstood dog, that deserved a second chance. He was only ten months old.

mafiaprincess
June 28th, 2005, 03:57 PM
You're in our thoughts Keeper. You didn't ask to be brought into this world, and you certainly didn't ask for the a**holes that adopted you to be so cruel. Your life was worth more than some stinkin' hydrangeas or a little hole in the wall that could be patched up!

Poodletalk, what did you mean when you said: ?

The Ottawa SPCA, who supposedly "assured" the adoptive mom that he wouldn't be euthanized, wouldn't adopt him out???? I hope that's not the case!

Keeper, your story will be told here in Calgary aswell. If only you knew how much the people on this site cared about you, but no one gave us the chance to save you! Rest in peace little Keeper. :(

The OHS failed to mention that the dog has to pass a medical and temperment test. Without passign both they won't adopt out a dog. They I guess didn't mention that to the owner who surrendered Keeper. Couldn't pass the temperment test, on 2 occassions, so no one could pull him....

The surrender signed a full release too.. so..

I'm so sorry Keeper.. I'm in tears over this too

LL1
June 28th, 2005, 04:07 PM
I dont believe that.
The Ottawa SPCA, who supposedly "assured" the adoptive mom that he wouldn't be euthanized, wouldn't adopt him out???? I hope that's not the case!

poodletalk
June 28th, 2005, 04:12 PM
No, I don't beleive that at all. The lady has a history of lying to us, so I don't believe one word that comes out of her mouth or anything she typed here. Any animal who gets dropped of at the SPCA,must go through two tests. Behavorial test and medical test. Keeper failed the behavorial test twice. They have a team of people who could foster and work with troubled animals, they thought Keeper was beyond the word repair. This is the fault of the women who was not honest. Please don't send awful e-mails to this SPCA, it wasn't there fault, its the women who dropped off the dog!

Luba
June 28th, 2005, 04:38 PM
OMG Pags you're making me start to bawl again.

Lucky Rescue
June 28th, 2005, 11:01 PM
I just have to say that no SPCA is going to tell someone who is dumping their pet there that it will be killed. Everyone is told it's going to be adopted to a loving home.

I guess a lot of people choose to believe that to relieve their consciences and want to think that of the 50, 60 or 70% of the animals in killed in any particular shelter that theirs is miraculously not one of them.

I know nothing about the OHS (I'm sure they do the best they can) and am not making any derogatory comments about their operations - just about the people who dump so many pets, wanting someone else to do their dirty work, that of course most of them will not survive.

chico2
June 29th, 2005, 07:34 AM
Lucky,you are probably right and the owner did a final indignity to Keeper,by leting him be killed among strangers :evil:
I suppose OHS has soo many abandonned animals,that trying to help a misstreated dog getting over his agression and fear,is just not feasable or worth the effort,unlike a private rescue,who does not give up easily,with their main goal being to save a life.
Hundreds of"good"animals are killed every day,but somehow the puppy Keeper,hit really hard :sad:

happycats
June 29th, 2005, 07:53 AM
I don't blame the OHS. I blame the owner, because she was offered by many good people here to re-home Keeper for her, if she could just wait a few days. I guess a "few days" was much to long to wait!!

And yes, I do understand that she feared for her childrens safety, but she could have kept the dog separated from her kids for a few days!! I know there are people on this forum who have been doing it for years!!

angie79
June 29th, 2005, 08:03 AM
I'm thinking I really missed something I reread the posts about Keeper and I did not see anything about the children's safety being threatened. I saw that thier toys were chewed. and I didn't see anything posted until today that keeper was agressive (besides to walls and plants)

Is there another thread were these issues were addressed?

wjranch
June 29th, 2005, 08:49 AM
The worst part about all of this is....... this owner will probably go out and pick up another byb or puppymill puppy to 'raise with the kids'. It's a vicious circle and until she gets educated won't be broken.
I'm sorry Keeper :( and all the others that may follow :mad:

Is it really too much to ask that people crate train??? I think that would have been a very good start for this puppy... I guess we'll never know now :sorry:

Rottielover
June 29th, 2005, 08:53 AM
Just to let you know, NO she will not be taking in anymore dogs, she is still distraught over this.

chico2
June 29th, 2005, 09:07 AM
Rottielover,not to sound cruel,but I am glad she is at least distraught..many people here,including me,have had sleepless nights and cried a million tears for a dog we had not even met :sad:
It's over now,Keepers life is forever stilled and I hope we'll never have to read about this kind of injustice again. RIP Keeper :love:

Cactus Flower
June 29th, 2005, 12:37 PM
Is there another thread were these issues were addressed?

Yes, but the thread was pulled.

Luba
June 29th, 2005, 01:02 PM
She should be distraught....as are a LOT of people on here who offered help that wasn't taken. Too many people dumping too many dogs who dont' care enough to try and fix a problem then make it someone elses OR kill the dog.

Keeper I lit a candle for you, a very special candle that I was saving for a special occassion. It was just for you, and that flame flickered bright and tall for a very long time my friend you have much love sending you 'home'
:angel:

Britishvixen21
June 29th, 2005, 03:15 PM
where can i find the original thread to this please?

poodletalk
June 29th, 2005, 03:27 PM
Chico, I agree with you, I hope she will ALWAYS remember the pain she feels right now about sending Keeper to the SPCA and him getting euthanised! This way, it will KEEP her AWAY from adopting ANY other animals!

It's NOT only her, its everyone who dumps animals at the SPCA'S or local pounds. Animals have feelings, I don't think too many people realize that! If they did, the SPCA'S and pounds woudn;t be bursting at the seems with unwanted animals. Pets are for life not just until the garden season starts or moving day!

Luba
June 29th, 2005, 03:42 PM
There are (4) threads, one of which was deleted...it had most of the info in it...however under adoptions you can find the original thread.

poodletalk
June 30th, 2005, 11:24 AM
This is what the orginal rescue wrote about our Dear beloved Keeper on their website.

It is with a very heavy heart and many tears, that I write these words to you.

I remember with fond and loving memories that cold and dreary day that you came into my life. A happy and boisterous pup all of 5 months old. No one understood you and you were scheduled to be euthanized. I looked at you and all the love in your eyes, your kisses never ending and the tail that never stopped wagging. I knew the minute I laid eyes on you that you didnít deserve what life was about to dish out to you.

I made you a promise at that very moment that I would take you with me and find you what you so very much deserved. While we shared a hot dog and hugged each other, I though to myself what a beautiful and wonderful dog, if only I could have taken you with me. Keeper was the name that I gave you, as to me you were most definitely a Keeper to me. You instantly found a place in my heart that will never never go away.

On June 28, 2005 you were sent to be with the Angels at the hands of people who did not understand you. I am so sorry that I did not know of your expected fate sooner or maybe you would still be with us. My promise to you failed and for this my tears will never stop. You are peaceful now dear Keeper and you can run with the animals and play in the fields. There are gentle and loving people with you now, who will love you and kiss you and play with you forever. Keep your kisses coming and you tail wagging.

Look for my darling Sasha, she will help you and guide you and love you. She is an amazing dog who lives among the Angels. With Sasha by your side, I will always know that you are now truly happy and loved.

savannah
June 30th, 2005, 01:30 PM
From what i remember, is the quote Poodletalk posted from the rescuer, the same rescue who would not take him back once they found out the adopter no longer wanted him? Of course, i dont know the rescue's side of the story, but why is she so sad if she decided not to take him back? :confused:

Rottielover
June 30th, 2005, 01:38 PM
That rescue did not know what was happening until after the fact......

Prin
June 30th, 2005, 01:42 PM
She said she had tried the rescue first and they said they couldn't take him back. What a mess. How did the rescue give her a dog in the first place? I have to say I am a bit relieved that she's distraught-- makes her seem a tad less heartless, uncaring and cold.

poodletalk
June 30th, 2005, 01:49 PM
The orginial rescuer went to the States for the long weekend with her children. She had no idea the "owners" took Keeper to the OHS until she came back, which was Monday evening. Keeper was euthanised Tuesday morning.

sammiec
June 30th, 2005, 01:52 PM
I am getting so confused.

So the person that originally adopted Keeper from the rescue adopted him out to the "owners" who then turned him into the HS???

poodletalk
June 30th, 2005, 02:07 PM
Keeper was dumped somewhere, he was going to get euthanised. A local rescue group saved him from that death sentence. The local rescue group, THOUGHT they found him his "forever home" The "forever home" took him to the OHS and the OHS euthanised him on Tuesday.

sammiec
June 30th, 2005, 02:11 PM
AHHhh, I got it... I must have misread your last post, I thought it was saying that there was a third party involved....

Beaglemom
June 30th, 2005, 02:25 PM
I was under the impression that with most rescues a contract is signed that states that the person who adopts a pet is to contact the rescue first should they no longer be able to keep him/her for whatever reason. That in no circumstances are they ever to be turned over to a shelter.

NicInNC
June 30th, 2005, 02:35 PM
I was under the impression that with most rescues a contract is signed that states that the person who adopts a pet is to contact the rescue first should they no longer be able to keep him/her for whatever reason. That in no circumstances are they ever to be turned over to a shelter.

That's how it is here in my state (North Carolina, US). The rescue group that my parents are board members of (Greyhound Friends of NC) can sue the person if they take a dog they adopted from the rescue group to the pound or try to sell it. It's right in the contract. ALL rescue groups should have something like this in their contract.

sammiec
June 30th, 2005, 02:37 PM
I do believe that many resuces have a contract like that in place.

chico2
June 30th, 2005, 03:53 PM
Whatever regrets anyone feels right now,does not really matter to Keeper,does it? He is dead,his tail will not be wagging anymore..he did not even reach 1 yr old....I've cried a million tears for him,but Keeper is no more,poor missunderstood puppy :sad:
I just hope someone will learn something from this tragedy... :sad:

poodletalk
June 30th, 2005, 04:13 PM
From what I understand the contract for Keeper said the same thing. The lady did call the rescue to say she didn't want Keeper anymore. The resuce didn't have any foster homes available at the time, so the "owners" said they would keep KEEPER till a fosterhome was available. In the meantime, the lady incharge of the rescue, went to the States with the children for the long weekend.That weekend the "owners" took Keeper to the SPCA without the knowledge of the orginal rescue and they euthanised him couple of days later.

chico2
June 30th, 2005, 04:32 PM
So,in the end,the adoptive owner is the one at fault,not that it matters any more.After having had Keeper for three months,you'd think she could have kept him a few more days,to save his life... :sad:

Luba
June 30th, 2005, 04:35 PM
Anita you are making yourself really sad about this, now stop reading this....and go have some tea that is an ORDER missy or I will get myself to Oakville somehow and push you in your pool! :p

poodletalk
June 30th, 2005, 04:40 PM
From what I understand, she had him for 5 months...he was killed at 10 months and the rescue got him at 5 months. After keeping Keeper for 5 months, wouldn't you think their would have been a bond between her and the dog.

angie79
June 30th, 2005, 04:46 PM
some people pets are possesions... for others like me they are children/friends and one of the most important family members

chico2
June 30th, 2005, 04:46 PM
Luba,you are soo right,but you can have the tea..I'll take a nice cold beer!!
and I have to stop reading about Keeper,that's a given,not a darn thing I can do about him anyway...he's gone!!

LL1
June 30th, 2005, 04:48 PM
When an adopter does not want the dog,rescues take them back,asap.It doesn't matter if they have no room,once someone has decided they do not want the dog,you get them out of the house urgently.There is a legal reclaim period for owners of dogs placed in shelters,which Keeper would have done.The rescue should have taken Keeper back.Owner and rescue are at fault.

LL1
June 30th, 2005, 04:49 PM
Yes,but like some breeders,they do not all do that.
I do believe that many resuces have a contract like that in place.

Luba
June 30th, 2005, 05:44 PM
Anita I'm only saying this because I luv ya...GO AWAY :grouphug:

BEER I'll take a rootbeer actually going to go have one now..I have organic rootbeer :D YUMMIE!

Agree LL1 both are at fault.