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Breast Implants

Joey.E.CockersMommy
June 25th, 2005, 12:09 PM
Did anyone happen to catch 20/20 last night. They had a segment on 17 and 18 year old girls getting breast implants for graduation gifts. The parents said that they wanted to do something special for their daughters?!. I fell asleep before the segment ended so I did not catch the whole thing. I personally think its crazy myself but I do have boys so maybe I can't really relate.

http://abcnews.go.com/2020/Health/story?id=875821&page=1

angie79
June 25th, 2005, 12:21 PM
didn't catch it.... i kind of wish i did....
that is a pretty sexual gift to buy thier daughters, kind of tacky...

Writing4Fun
June 25th, 2005, 12:39 PM
Another prime example of people with more money than brains. The first girl gets a Jag for her grad present, and trades it in for a boob job. The second girl is equating having her boobs fall out of the top of her shirt as "having more confidence". Buckets-full of money and low self-esteem - not a good combination! :(

lilith_rizel
June 25th, 2005, 02:43 PM
personally, I think they should be happy with what they got. I am small chested. And I wouldn't want to be any bigger! I am happy with the way they are....

Luba
June 25th, 2005, 03:01 PM
Ya I've heard all about that and then some!

What a wonderful gift to give your daughter 'here you aren't good enough as you are, now lets fix you up'

:p

wjranch
June 25th, 2005, 03:02 PM
I think it's really sad.... Didn't those parents raise their kids telling them how wonderful and beautiful they were?? Instead they choose the most self conscious time in their lives to affirm that they aren't?? Crazy I say!
Now the girls have learned that they can get whatever 'quick fix' they feel they need to improve their self image.... what's wrong with finding the right person to appreciate what you have to offer? that would go along way to building their self esteem
(although the parents haven't done a very good job of raising them with confidence if you ask me)

Sorry if this became a rant, I'm a little touchy about this particular subject as I myself am awaiting a surgery date for breast REDUCTION! Not only am I terrified of the thought of surgery and anesthesia, I just can't imagine why in the world anyone would want bigger......it really isn't better ladies, I swear to you it isn't.

Joey.E.CockersMommy
June 25th, 2005, 03:12 PM
I myself am small chested and have no desire to have implant surgery, I would rather have a jaguar ;) . If I did have a larger chest and it was bothersome I would definately consider breast reduction. The thought of something foreign being put in my body to me is kind of creepy.

Shamrock
June 25th, 2005, 03:38 PM
Saw this program ResearchBulls, and had to just shake my head. Sad. Very sad.. and kind of disturbing. These parents are reaffirming for their daughters that big boobs= beauty= happiness.
And with the health risks associated with this procedure, they still shrug their shoulders with "if it makes her happy" stance.
And we wonder what prompts garbage programs like "The Swan"?
Go under the knife.. live happily ever after....sigh.

For adults who wish to have surgery, at least they have (hopefully) made an informed and careful decision.

Girls of 17 and 18 often get caught up in the latest fad or trend, and then pressure their parents.
"But Mom,Dad.. ALL the girls have giant breasts..."

lilith_rizel
June 25th, 2005, 03:51 PM
I don't see anything wrong with a breast reduction. It is wanting a bigger chest that bothers me sometimes. I mean, here there are all these teens wanting bigger chests, when they don'e even realize that some guys don't like big chested women!

chico2
June 25th, 2005, 03:58 PM
Personally I think this is a very sick part of society,there is no way I would ever pay for implants for my daughter(if I had one).A friend of mine had small implants,very natural looking,but it was because she had both breasts removed because of breastcancer and it made all the difference to her.
Doing it thinking it will make you more popular,will not work,I actually don't think men like those fake looking things anyway,if that is the reason the girls do it,they probably make good floating-devices though :D

JDG
June 25th, 2005, 04:48 PM
Hummmmmmm. . .

well, up to when I was 13 I had a birthmark on my forehead - it had hair on it, it was gross - and I got teased because it. My mom let me get it removed.

When I was 14 I started to get a mustach (damn puberty) so my mom paid for me to have electroloysis to get rid of it. At 26 now, I am damn thankful! haha.

When I was 16 I was chubby - my mom helped me lose weight.

Now I never needed help in the boob department - but If I did, I'm sure my mom would have sat me down, talked about it Pros and Cons, like we did with everything else, and made a choice. I don't know what the outcome would have been.

My mom always made sure I was comfortable in my skin, and if I needed a little help to get that comfort - she helped.


I think perhaps we would need to look at the indivual cases - getting your boobs bigger to look like a porn star, and getting bigger boobs to look like a woman are two different things. . . .

We are quick to judge these people, but perhaps they truly do have their daughters best interests at heart - I know my mom always did.



(I love you, Mom!)

angie79
June 25th, 2005, 04:50 PM
i brought up the subject with my mom about the brest implants as grad gift, her response was "thats sick" and she said that there are studies out that prove that the more attractive you are the more attention you get from employers and teachers. she said maybe they want to send thier girls off to college and have the teachers give higher marks for the boobs or higher pays for the boobs. That is of course if people do judge beauty by the size of someones bust, :eek: but i guess that is another topic all together.
personally I think a huge bust is unattractive,

Shamrock
June 25th, 2005, 05:41 PM
JDG, sounds like you have a truly wonderful mom! :thumbs up

To me though.... your examples are different.
To seek assistance to be an averge weight, with no obvious cosmetic "impediments" such as birthmark or mustache is not wrong. We cannot deny that body image plays a huge role in our sense of self and how people perceive us.
A friend in high-school had a nose-job at 15. Her father insisted she would not go through life with "his" nose, and I think she was delighted with the results, thereby improving her self-confidence.
For a girl or woman who was flat chested to the point of looking like a man- I would say it falls under the same category- as something physical that can be "corrected". If its something that is making you miserable and unhappy, then it can be of big benefit to fix it.
Parents spend thousands on their childrens teeth, to give them a beautfiul smile, with straight white teeth. And why not?
But - should a woman who is simply not what we call well-endowed BE that unhappy about it? If she is - why?

The young girls depicted in this particular story were not in any danger of being mistaken for men. They had what I would consider 'average" size breasts.
This surgery was merely an enhancement, nothing more.
My concern is that if this practice becomes commonplace within this age group, anything less than large or very-large breasts will be considered a glaring fault that needs "correcting", A whole new industry is spawned....
Maybe it already has..

shannon1233A
June 26th, 2005, 07:59 AM
This is a sensitive subject for me too. I didn't see the program, but hopefully the covered the negative aspects too! Why oh why don't these people talk to other people who've had negative and life altering/threatening experiences so they can make an informed decision :mad:

30 years ago, after breastfeeding 3 children within 5 years, my exhusband decided he found me "unattractive", and "they(breasts) just turned him off, sooo he "kindly" gave me a breast lift as an anniversary present :evil: Please understand, it was different back then, they didn't know the dangers of silicone implants, and I loved my husband and thought that was the reasoning behind his affairs, so I agreed. Instead of just a lift, they at that time put the silicone implants in.

Now, 30 years later, not only have they both ruptured, but the silicone has leaked out throughout my body and may be being absorbed in surrounding tissues. Silicone, as described to me, is much like the mercury in a thermometer, jelly like. We've discussed removing the "shells" but at this point it's useless since it's too late. The health problems are ennomous and too many to get into here.

As for reduction, I fully agree , my mother had a reduction done at 65 yrs old, and says it's the best thing she ever did. Her shoulders and back no longer hurt after many years. I'm considering getting one done as it's covered by OHIP in Ontario, Canada, but they're afraid of the complication because of the leaking I've now experienced.

Anyway, warning to all, and they should cover this in media, there are severe consequences, even though I understand the implants are now soy filled or saline, these parents should be shown what a mouldy implant looks like after many years. Oh, and btw, notice I said EXHUSBAND (he's on wifey #5 now) :D

Joey.E.CockersMommy
June 26th, 2005, 09:40 AM
Original post by Shannon 1233
Now, 30 years later, not only have they both ruptured, but the silicone has leaked out throughout my body and may be being absorbed in surrounding tissues. Silicone, as described to me, is much like the mercury in a thermometer, jelly like. We've discussed removing the "shells" but at this point it's useless since it's too late. The health problems are ennomous and too many to get into here.

I am so sorry that you are experiencing so many health problems because of the implants, I think if an adult women wants to get breast implants that is fine but it should be her choice not her moms, husbands, or anyone elses. I do hope your exhusband feels some guilt after the suffering you are going through now.

I used to get teased in highschool for being flat chested and would be called Prairie Chest, yes it hurt my feelings but I came out of it alright, my mom brought me my first training bra when I was 16 most girls get them at 12 or 13 I certainly didn't need one. I actually had the smallest chest in highschool 26A not even A (we all had to measure ourselves for some sewing project) Personally now I like being small chested and would not trade them for anything. If on occassion when I do want a little more cleavage I just pullout my pushup bra with those little gel cups in them.

Cactus Flower
June 26th, 2005, 02:15 PM
Someone needs to tell these girls how much kinder gravity is to women with smaller breasts. Personally, I envy the smaller breasted woman ;) .

My insurance won't cover a breast reduction, because there is a minimum amount of breast tissue they have to remove (which is a LOT) in order to qualify for coverage, and they say removing that much from me will basically be a double masectomy, leaving me with nothing. It's an unfair rule. I have a very small frame, and these breasts are too big for ME. They don't consider the frame/size of the person.

I guess the insurance company would rather continue paying for my weekly visits to the chiropractor.

In France, the perfect sized breast will fit into a champagne glass. It's all about perception and the social standards we set.

Karin
June 26th, 2005, 03:17 PM
How a girl at 17 or 18 years of age can have an implant boggles my mind. I was always small in the boob department until my late twenties. I and all other females in my family did not really "blossom" until our thirties.

I have had a partial mastectomy to my right breast, a good chunk was removed...you have to really look hard to see the difference and if you did, you will get slapped! lol

I think any parent who allows a teenager to have a breast implant is guilty of child abuse. (Other than medical necessity or due to an accident/deformity)

Prin
June 27th, 2005, 09:55 AM
In France, the perfect sized breast will fit into a champagne glass. It's all about perception and the social standards we set. That would be a funny looking boob, no?

I think kids are failed when society teaches them that they aren't good enough. You don't get implants for yourself. If you were living in the woods, secluded from everybody, would you want them?

I just take what I can get. The biggest in my family are B's, and I'm at 32D. I love it, but I know as soon as I get off birth control, I'll lose 'em. They're fun to have (the bigger they are the more free stuff you get), but what matters to me is my man is an a** man, and I will always have plenty of that. :D

Schwinn
June 27th, 2005, 02:28 PM
Whenever I hear these stories, I think the kid needs to get a boob reduction...by getting rid of the parents! I don't know what the heck are going through people's heads...

Personally, a bigger size might get me to look, but you really need to be able to keep my attention. For example, I've never found Pamela Anderson attractive. I also remember when I was a doorman at a bar, and there was this girl who people used to tell me about her 60 inch chest. I never understood the attraction, because she also had a 55 inch waist! I also dated women of varying degrees of attractiveness and, um, endowment, and other than going to the clubs, the attraction wore off VERY quickly. If I can't sit in a room with you without being bored to tears, then there's no point.

Rick C
June 27th, 2005, 02:43 PM
Whenever I hear these stories, I think the kid needs to get a boob reduction...by getting rid of the parents! I don't know what the heck are going through people's heads...

Personally, a bigger size might get me to look, but you really need to be able to keep my attention. For example, I've never found Pamela Anderson attractive. I also remember when I was a doorman at a bar, and there was this girl who people used to tell me about her 60 inch chest. I never understood the attraction, because she also had a 55 inch waist! I also dated women of varying degrees of attractiveness and, um, endowment, and other than going to the clubs, the attraction wore off VERY quickly. If I can't sit in a room with you without being bored to tears, then there's no point.

But you and I, as men of age and experience, we know that's the real point.

When we were young and driven by hormones we might have had a different answer. :D

As to the original point, its pretty sad the lesson coming out of high school via a graduation present is that the way you look will mean more in life than the substance of your character.

Then again, I kind of defeated that comment with my earlier one about young men.

I think I'll leave this conversation now.

Rick C
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