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looking for dog breed bite statistic list

lezzpezz
June 8th, 2005, 10:00 AM
Could someone direct me to the post that had a dog breed bite statistic list, preferrably something done in Canada if one exists, but not a must. U.S. or worldwide is fine. Trying to educate my neighbours to the facts and educating them on impending BSL in Ontario. I saw such a list recently posted, but cannot seem to locate it readily. Thanks a million!! :)

Dogastrophe
June 8th, 2005, 10:05 AM
Give this a look. Not exactly what you are looking for but gives some interesting stats on Canadian reported dog bite occurrances. I'll see if I can find something more breed specific.

http://www.phac-aspc.gc.ca/injury-bles/chirpp/injrep-rapbles/dogbit_e.html

lezzpezz
June 8th, 2005, 10:08 AM
This is a keeper! Good facts found here. Thanks for continuing the search. The breed list was just posted the other day here, but I can't put my finger on it. I'm trying to find it too! Thanks a bunch!

Dogastrophe
June 8th, 2005, 10:14 AM
I found one mention of breed stats as follows:

"A 1997 study of dog bite fatalities in the years 1979 through 1996 revealed that the following breeds had killed one or more persons: pit bulls, Rottweilers, German shepherds, huskies, Alaskan malamutes, Doberman pinschers, chows, Great Danes, St. Bernards and Akitas. (Dog Bite Related Fatalities," Morbidity and Mortality Weekly Report, May 30, 1997, Vol. 46, No. 21, pp. 463 et. seq.) The experience of the author of Dog Bite Law confirms that the dogs on the CDC list are the most frequent attackers of human beings. "

This is part of a longer article which can be found on: http://www.dogbitelaw.com/PAGES/statistics.html

The text of the study is at ftp://ftp.cdc.gov/pub/Publications/mmwr/wk/mm4621.pdf Note that the table they provide is for 'dog bite related fatalities' and not for total bite incidences.

Schwinn
June 8th, 2005, 10:19 AM
This is the link to the American Tempermant Testing Society

http://www.atts.org/

lezzpezz
June 8th, 2005, 10:20 AM
Thanks alot! That will do nicely! I found another list that is actually a child fatality list, and that lists many different breeds. This is the list that I saw the other day and mistook it for a breed bite list. I have all the info I need now. Thanks again!

Dukieboy
June 8th, 2005, 10:20 AM
Most statistics will be scewed anyway, here is an example why, my daughter works at a garden centre and her co-worker was bitten by a customers collie the other day. Did she report the bite? no Did she go to the hospital? No. Would this be different it it was a pitbull? Yes.

Dogastrophe
June 8th, 2005, 10:23 AM
And another which may be usefull. From a Financial and Social Implication of Breed Specific Legislation presentation in Nov 2004. A quick glance didn't reveal the author of the report so I'm not sure of the origins.

http://www.doglegislationcouncilcanada.org/Financial%20Implications.pdf


And another site with info: http://dog-bite-statistics-by-breed.dog-breed.info/dir/dog-bite-statistics-by-breed/P01L01.html

lezzpezz
June 8th, 2005, 10:27 AM
Wonderful sources all!

Mockingcat
June 8th, 2005, 10:27 AM
Just to chip in some more...

The statistics may also be skewed because whoever is reporting the bite usually doesn't know exactly what kind of dog bit them. To some people, a "pit bull" is any dog with a big boxy head. So even if they were chomped by, say, a boxer, they automatically say, "A pitbull bit me."

Dogastrophe
June 8th, 2005, 10:32 AM
Most statistics will be scewed anyway, here is an example why, my daughter works at a garden centre and her co-worker was bitten by a customers collie the other day. Did she report the bite? no Did she go to the hospital? No. Would this be different it it was a pitbull? Yes.

Absolutely correct. The biggest problem with stats is you can only include what you can reliably measure. There are likely far more bites that go unreported than those that are reported. From the great philosopher Homer J Simpson: "Aw, come on. You can use statistics to prove just about anything. 75% of people know that."

lezzpezz
June 8th, 2005, 10:47 AM
Yeah, I know they can be skewed. I'm just trying to prove a point to this guy, that even his nice doggie can be a biter, if not trained properly. I just wanted to show what types of dogs have been listed as biters, including his dogs' breed!! An eyeopener for sure!!

Dukieboy
June 8th, 2005, 10:57 AM
The other thing to consider is that pitties and rotties unfortunately for a number of years have been the dog of choice for criminals. They are more likely to have been abused, neglected, and abandoned. This impacts the whole picture and needs to be considered when interpreting the data that does exist.

Dogastrophe
June 8th, 2005, 11:05 AM
About 3/4's down the page under "Which Dogs Bite" of http://www.doglegislationcouncilcanada.org/torontorecommendations.html gives a few more stats (which I believe made it into that pdf linked article that I gave.)

Quote from the author "Generally, only bites by Rottweilers and Pitbull Terriers appear to draw media attention, which leaves the impression that those are the only breeds that routinely bite, or are capable of inflicting injury"

lezzpezz
June 8th, 2005, 11:20 AM
Thanks Dogastrophe. The latest list you suggested put the neighbour's dog right where I said it would be, and he did not believe me. It is also Canadian data, which will stress my point clearly. That will do it nicely. :p

Toonces
June 8th, 2005, 03:36 PM
Looking in shelters and rescues on petfinder and elsewhere virtually any black and tan dog of medium to large size is called a GSD cross - that adds to the numbers for sure. And we get calls from shelters all the time for dogs they feel is a GSD but is clearly a GSD cross. Very much like the Pits, the GSDs are also identified improperly. And that most K9 bites, who are biting when they are supposed to, are also included in the stats.

lezzpezz
June 8th, 2005, 04:15 PM
Also very good points to consider, Toonces. Thank you.

twodogsandacat
June 8th, 2005, 05:18 PM
These are the Canadian stats up to 2003

http://ncrf2004.tripod.com/id10.html


Missing the 2004 attack in BC and a possible other death in Ontario where the mother was initally charged with stabbing the child but forensics determined the dog (possibly pit) was at fault. I still need to confirm if that dog turned out to not be a pit and therefore is included already under another breed.

twodogsandacat
June 8th, 2005, 05:27 PM
Lousie Reynolds was charged with stabbing her daughter to death and the first coroner (now being investigated according to news released JUST THIS WEEK) said the wounds were not consitent with dog bites but other experts have said they were and still other experts said the dogs may of touched the body after.

http://members.aol.com/_ht_a/dorionr/forensic/Reynolds.htm

If we count this as a pit bulll death then Ontario has seen two in the last twenty years and one still remains as a death by misadventure when a intoxicated man in a darwin award type manner - provoked two pits.

So one OFFICAL ONE NOT.

Copper'sMom
June 20th, 2005, 01:18 PM
lezzerpezzer, are you still looking for bite statistics? Here's a good site:

http://www.safety-council.org/news/sc/1999/dogbites.htm