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Getting tired of the stereotypes

Gripenfelter
May 12th, 2005, 04:17 PM
Everytime I meet someone they do the following:

1) Call my dog a husky repeatedly even after I correct them and tell them its an Alaskan Malamute.

2) Tell me that my dog will kill cats, rabbits, and small dogs.

3) Eat me out of house and home.

Now the facts:

1) Zeus is a 23 week (5 months) old 78 lb Alaskan Malamute.

2) Zeus plays in the backyards with rabbits and cats. He has never injured either of them. He lies on his back and lets little dogs walk on his chest or he protects them from more aggressive dogs (pics of him protecting a pomeranian on his homepage).

3) He chews on wooden sticks he finds in the backyard. Leaves our furniture alone. He eats 3 cups of food a day not 6 or 7 like others have suggested. The breeder's largest dogs eat 4 cups a day.

Ok I'm done my rant.

This was brought on by me attending a dog meet a few days ago and the coordinator requesting that I keep my dog on a leash while the smaller dogs play because she was afraid Zeus would "eat the smaller dogs".

Prin
May 12th, 2005, 04:19 PM
I totally understand your plight. A man at our park had a Kuvasz and it took him months to find this doggy and everybody calls it a pyranees...

kandy
May 12th, 2005, 04:42 PM
I know how you feel. I get alot of people who think that Newfs are just black pyranees and when I tell them its a newf they come back with, 'oh its the same thing since newfs came from pyranees'. Wrong! I think I read somewhere that way, way, way back, pyranees were used to help strengthen the newf breed, but they aren't related. The first time I had anyone recognize Lacey for what she really was, I was shocked. In fact I almost started my normal - no she's not pyranees - response before I realized that they had gotten the breed right!

Don't feel bad - we all know that Zeus is a malamute - and a very handsome one too! :) Maybe you could get a saddle blanket with "I am an Alaskan Malamute!" (or "I am not a Husky!") embroidered on it that goes over his back! :D

SnowDancer
May 12th, 2005, 07:13 PM
I get same comments about my American Eskimo and he only weighs 21 lbs. and is 13 months old now. People think he is a Samoyed, a Husky, a big Pomeranian - or a white wolf club (actually this one I can understand when he is standing howling at the top of a pile of snow - but his tail does curl up, so we are safe) - AND that he is such a "pretty girl" - well he is a pretty boy.

He unfortunately is a little chewer - but always has a super strong toy at the ready when caught chewing blankets, sheets, towels etc. He has the teeth of a 40 lb. Eskimo.

katy82
May 12th, 2005, 07:31 PM
Many people confuse my American Eskimo as well although she is a pretty girl and people think she is a boy (and thats before they find out her name is Phil!). Most people think she is a baby samoyed. Although she is 21 pounds and 7 months old. I've also had a number of people tell me what a nasty dog she's going to be and hows shes never going to like strangers or other dogs. Phil is the complete opposite! She loves EVERYBODY! I hate it when people base their opinions just on the breed and not the actual dog.

raingirl
May 12th, 2005, 07:45 PM
People always think our bulldog is a pitt bull...I've just gotten used to it.

wjranch
May 12th, 2005, 09:29 PM
The first time I had anyone recognize Lacey for what she really was, I was shocked.

Is Lacey perhaps a Landseer??? Otherwise, I see NO reason why anyone would mistake a pure black newf for a kuvasz or anything else for that matter other then what it is! LOL

Safyre
May 12th, 2005, 10:29 PM
I get ppl thinking that my dog is not even a pure breed ...or worse, a cocker spaniel :evil:
Grifen-- A lot of ppl have difficulty telling the diff between the malamute and husky. The only way i can tell myself is the broader chest. Huskies are just more common. But I feel your venting, it drives me nuts seeing a malamute that someone calls a husky. its always been a doggy pet peeve of mine.
Kandy - i am shocked that ppl don't know that a newf is a Newf. Black Pyrness? Thats crazy! hehe, my step dad loves the breed, and Justices fave playmate is a overweight newfie
Raingirl - I would b**chslap anyone that thought your dog wasa pitt! My god, are ppl really that stupid?!

Lise
May 13th, 2005, 07:05 AM
My beardie gets called a little old english,my english shepherd is a border collie.My collie and cairn are both pretty obvious.Most people don't know any uncommon breeds.When I had my boxer I had a lady come up to me and tell me that my pit bull was going to kill my daughter.oh well we all know what they are!

DogueLover
May 13th, 2005, 09:42 AM
People always tell me that Angel is the biggest pit bull they have ever seen! I have always just laughed then corrected them.
C`Zarr doesn`t get mistaken for any other breed, he just gets called a PONY all the time. People will on occasion ask if he is a bullmastiff but I have only had one lady get the breed right. I was shocked AND PLEASED that someone recognized the breed for what they are.
I do get "oh those look just like that dog on Turner and Hooch" to which I respond well that`s a good thing because they are the same breed.
:D
I get asked a LOT about how much food they eat and if my dog food bill is higher than my household grocery bill. It isn`t but people just don`t know and they find it amusing to say the things they do, mostly because they can`t think of anything else to say.

Lissa
May 13th, 2005, 11:31 AM
I know exactly what everyone is saying. It gets pretty annoying, especially since it happens constantly with dog owners - you'd think they'd be a bit more knowledgeable!

EVERYONE thinks that my 60lbs, 25 inch American Foxhound is a BEAGLE!! I am completely serious when I say that I will buy him a t-shirt that says "I'm not a beagle". Last weekend, a guy actually asked if Dodger was a beagle/wolfhound mix - how insane can you get???

My friend owns a basset/lab mix - 2 people have run screaming in the other direction (slight exaggeration) because they thought he was a pitbull!

It's pretty annoying but I've learned to calm down about it. What bothers me more then mistaking the breed is the saying "Oh, he's a hound, he'll never listen to you" or "You'll never be able to trust him off-leash" and even "He's dangerous because he's hunter, he'll attack anything small that moves". Sometimes, I just want to crawl in hole and never speak to another human again! And it seems that speaking to dog owners is worse than non-dog owners because they think that they know more about my dog than I do!! Ridiculous!

I can't imagine how annyoing it must be for people who have "dangerous" breeds!!

Melissa

Prin
May 13th, 2005, 11:37 AM
Kandy, at least they call it another rare breed-- If you came to our park, they'd probably call her a lab... :rolleyes:

Jackie467
May 13th, 2005, 11:44 AM
You wouldn't believe how many people mistake my IG for a puppy whippet or most commenly a puppy greyhound. I'v only ever had one person know what my dog really is. I don't get too upset though because IGs aren't very common around here and they really do look exactly like tiny whippets or greyhounds. What drives me nuts is when I tell people that haven't seen her yet what she is, then explain to them what it is and show them a picture when they can't comprehend that there is a dog that looks just like a greyhound only smaller :rolleyes: , and I always get comments about either how skinny she is, or that she must shake all the time because that is what toy breeds do. When I tell them she doesn't shake they try to tell me that she has to because they have seen toy breeds, and they all shake. Now who knows more about the breed? Me or them? I mean they didn't even know what it was until I showed them and explained it, then they try to tell me they know more about the breed then me :mad: . That is one of my biggest pet peeves.

Lucky Rescue
May 13th, 2005, 11:59 AM
You want stereotypes, try owning a pit bull.

NO, her brain is not going to outgrow her skull.

NO, she is not going to "turn on me" and kill me in my sleep.

NO, she has no appetite for toddlers. :rolleyes:

NO, she does not have shark teeth.

NO, she does NOT have "locking jaws" (can anyone explain how that works?)

JDG
May 13th, 2005, 12:37 PM
I'm going to have to be honest, and say I DIDN'T know there was a difference between a Malamute and a Husky before logging onto this website. . . (to be honest I don't know if I could tell the two dogs apart side by side either :o )

. . .Being a 'cat' person this website has given me a real insight to dogs and dog owners! :P

Not being exposed to many 'big' dogs as a child - I can totally understand why people sometimes fall into believing streotypes - - I'm sure I've been one of those people. . .

I think now I am aware of many of the streotypes many of you dog owners have to face day after day - I just hope that instead of everyone getting upset and angry with people that just don't know, we can channel that into something positive and educate people about all these great dog breeds!

As someone has in their sig line 'There are no bad dogs, just bad dog owners'

. . . .as a side note: could someone tell me how to tell a Malamute and a husky apart?? :thumbs up :p :crazy: ;) thanks!

Karin
May 13th, 2005, 01:26 PM
[QUOTE=Lise]My beardie gets called a little old english,my english shepherd is a border collie.My collie and cairn are both pretty obvious.Most people don't know any uncommon breeds.

I have to admit, I have called a bearded collie a OES on many occasions, 1 just recently. *hanging head in shame*


But....! Not very often does one meet up with a bearded in Florida.

I have learned from my last mistaken identity (from the owner), look at the tail & body frame first)...Not very common here, learn everyday.

Cactus Flower
May 13th, 2005, 02:15 PM
Huh. I've never gotten a malamute and a husky confused. To me, they look quite different. Maybe because my Mom had a malamute, I was more familiar with the breed. We all lived on the same ranch, and I used to spend a lot of time with that dog.

Perhaps someone could post a pic of both breeds?

Luvmypit
May 13th, 2005, 02:50 PM
Welcome to my world!

Bad thing about pits are people really believe what they hear. Lock jaw... jaw power is 5000/ psi which is wrong.. I believe its like 2000/psi and the rottie is actually 3000/psi

As for other breeds Im usesless but I never say is that a.... cause I know that im no expert... I know basic popular breeds only

pollito
May 13th, 2005, 09:36 PM
biggest stereotype, PIT BULLS are all huge dogs,

well the funny thing is that mine because she is a bit smaller than most has been called a Jack Russell Terrier (hum), a Lab puppy (4 year old pit), a Boston Terrier ( Right now If I have any stupid questions, I just answer, no she is an overgrown chihuahua)

2nd thing that pisses me off, Nakita is fully black except her tail, chest and paws( which are white), and there are a few guys around my age (17-20) who would come up to me and say:
-"Cool it's a pit. Is it a red nose or a blue nose??" (DUUUUHHH) i mean, i just smile back cause what am i suppose to answer to an idiot? i 've tried answering once , i said :
-"Can't you see? She is fully black!" - the answer was
- "Yeah I know! But is she a red nose or a blue nose? http://users.telenet.be/eforum/emoticons4u/violent/sterb035.gif

mona_b
May 14th, 2005, 01:08 AM
Ask and you shall recieve........... :D

This is an Alaskan Malamute.

mona_b
May 14th, 2005, 01:10 AM
Here is a Siberian Husky....My sister owns 3 of them.And to be honest no one has ever mistaken them as Malamutes.There is quite a difference between the two.

Cactus Flower
May 14th, 2005, 01:33 AM
Thank you, Mona! I sure appreciate that.

My Mom's Malamute was HUGE. I mean like almost Great Dane HUGE.
I was surprised that the Malamute pictured was that small. Is it a young one? Or was my Mom's just unusually large? I thought that they were bigger than Huskies. Looks as though I am going to learn something here.....
(which is the best part!).

mona_b
May 14th, 2005, 02:00 AM
Your very welcome.... :)

He just looks small...Actually he is a pup.It's a pic of him "stacking"...He is starting his showing.The ususal standard for this breed is roughly 25" in height.And the weight is usually around 85lbs..Now this is the ideal height and weight..They are actually the same height as a GSD..My GSD is 25" from the shoulder.This is for an adult male.Females are usualy 2" smaller and 10lbs lighter.

Cactus Flower
May 14th, 2005, 12:45 PM
I see! I've got to tell my Mom to stop putting steroids in the dog food....

KIDDING!!!!!! :D

I'll try to find and scan the picture of her Malamute and her together. "Lady" is standing on hind legs, and is taller than my Mom (who is 5"4). I'd be interested in your opinion on her size.

Sorry to hijack and back to the topic on hand! Seeing these pics, especially of the young Malamute- I have to say that while the difference is obvious to me, that is probably only because I have had personal experience/bonding with a Malamute. With the similar color, I can understand why some people would get the young ones confused. As adults....I still think that they are only similar in the way that Rottis and Dobermans are.

melanie
May 14th, 2005, 06:09 PM
for some reason everyone assumes charlie is a boy, what cant pretty dogs that are big be girls?? hmmmm

they all assume she is a serial killer, i was asked by a jogger the other day if i could leash my dog (he was 500m away and not coming near us) you can imagine what i told him to do :D , oh and they also asked if i know the dog laws, WTF, hello dont hassle me at 6am, i am likely to attack and maul you:mad:

and no SHE IS NOT A DINGO who the hell has seen a big chubby 35kg dingo in this country, sorry but i must have had my head in the sand and missed the big ones. i am sick to death of ppl saying she is a dingo, and saying it like im an idiot 'oh no she is definatly a dingo' well oh no she bloody well isnt!!!! i knew her mum and dingos have specific teeth structure and body, she is not a god damed dingo...and it does not matter how many times i say it, they just look at me like im a freak......

i do understand she is tan color, jsut like a dingo, and her face could be dingoish is german shep sort of way, but oh my god......

i had a 9yo boy recently ask if she was dingo, i reckon his parents mentioned it....perhaps its because i look like some sort of wild bush woman who would have a dingo, thats the only explanation i can come up with. :rolleyes:

PS- i am forever defending lock jaw with ppl, trying to make them believe me that it does not exist, and for the life of me absolutly noone believes me, truly, it msut be a nightmare to own the poor babies, bloody idiots rule and the gene pool needs a little chlorination......

Safyre
May 14th, 2005, 10:52 PM
Another one to add to the stereotype for Pits - If they have black on thier tongue, they crave blood. (I tried to convince someone who owned three pitties that this is not true . How the heck could it be?!?!)

dogznfish
May 15th, 2005, 09:53 AM
My old girl was a BC but she had very very VERY fluffy fur. As she got older I started getting her buzzed to help keep her comfortable and cool (no AC at the time).

well....people in our off leash area freaked "GET THAT PIT BULL ON LEASH!!" I had one lady try to kick her while her little cocker spaniel was trying sooo hard to play with Kerri

No matter how often I tried, no one saw past the short fur and the markings.

Here's the face of my Kerri with her border collie buzz cut

kandy
May 15th, 2005, 11:08 AM
Is Lacey perhaps a Landseer??? Otherwise, I see NO reason why anyone would mistake a pure black newf for a kuvasz or anything else for that matter other then what it is! LOL

Lacey was pure black. I think that because you don't see any newfs around here but there are quite a few pyranees people assumed that she was a pyranees. I have lived my whole life in this town, and I only ever remember one newf - he must've been an escape artist or something because I would see him in the pound every once in a while but they would never adopt him (I tried, believe me, I tried) because they knew the owner would be to get him. After we got Lacey, an acquaintance of mine got a big male from somewhere in Canada. As far as I know, there are only three in town now (ours, my son's and Linda's big canadian boy).

melanie
May 15th, 2005, 05:12 PM
:sad: o dogsnfish, thats jsut stupid. how dumb is the mass of society, that dog looks like a cattle dog to me, certainly not a pb, poor baby. (PB should stand for poor baby, i reckon)

man again, i truly think the gene pool needs a little chlorination :sad:

mona_b
May 15th, 2005, 09:19 PM
I see! I've got to tell my Mom to stop putting steroids in the dog food....

KIDDING!!!!!! :D

LMAO...Too funny.......... :D

I know everyone talks about the sterotyping of dogs.And I think we have all heard the ones about the Pits(LR stated),BUT we also have to understand that alot of people don't know the differences of alot of breeds.Some breeds look simular to other breeds.They don't have the knowlegde like we do.So can we really get upset for this?The only reason my daughter knows the different breeds is because I taught her.And I actually quizz her..LOL....And hubby is learning..... :D ...Mind you,he's pretty good at most of the breeds.His 2 favorites are Boxers and Huskies...... :)

Prin
May 15th, 2005, 10:10 PM
My old girl was a BC but she had very very VERY fluffy fur. As she got older I started getting her buzzed to help keep her comfortable and cool (no AC at the time).

well....people in our off leash area freaked "GET THAT PIT BULL ON LEASH!!" I had one lady try to kick her while her little cocker spaniel was trying sooo hard to play with Kerri

No matter how often I tried, no one saw past the short fur and the markings.

Here's the face of my Kerri with her border collie buzz cut
If I was a moron, I'd say a big beagle, not a pitty... :p

Luvmypit
May 16th, 2005, 02:28 PM
No joke my own father told me the other day that pits had locking jaws. My family is the type that tries to get everyone going... But when he said this is was completely serious....

I told him that our old dog acted just like capone... And the vet even said that he looks like a black lab/pit mix. Anyhow I said you know dad capone and bo are exactly alike the way they act and I said I think Bo (RIP) had pit in him. He said no cause I ran into some guys on the street when I was walking him once and they asked if he was a pit and then they said let me check... heres the kicker........ they "checked" for lock jaw by grabbing his mouth and feeling along his jaw... ha ha ha...and said... Nope hes not... no lock jaw.... so my dad has dismissed the fact that he could have been a pit because these "dog inspectors" told him so...

I almost lost my mind... I told him DAD I know for a fact as god is my witness that this is not true. He still was so sure of himself.. He believed me after I ruptured a spleen swearing on my life and anything around me that this was not true.
My own father... :evil: My mom is cool telling him he doesn't know what hes talking about and that capone can come over anytime to play with their Lab cane...

next family function everyones going to recieve a nice little leaflet explaining the truths about pit bulls. :p

babyrocky1
May 16th, 2005, 09:48 PM
Another one to add to the stereotype for Pits - If they have black on thier tongue, they crave blood. (I tried to convince someone who owned three
pitties that this is not true . How the heck could it be?!?!)

Wow thats actually a first, I thought Id heard them all by now at least a hundred times but nope, theres another one to add to the list! Yikes their owner thinks that, now thats not a good sign! :eek:

babyrocky1
May 16th, 2005, 09:55 PM
Luvmypit, have you resorted to opening Capones mouth and sticking your arm in it yet!! Ive done that one lots of times. Then they say, yeah but thats just cause its you, and I say, " no YOU try it trust me you'll be fine but so far no takers," LOL

Schwinn
May 17th, 2005, 09:44 AM
No joke my own father told me the other day that pits had locking jaws. My family is the type that tries to get everyone going... But when he said this is was completely serious....

I told him that our old dog acted just like capone... And the vet even said that he looks like a black lab/pit mix. Anyhow I said you know dad capone and bo are exactly alike the way they act and I said I think Bo (RIP) had pit in him. He said no cause I ran into some guys on the street when I was walking him once and they asked if he was a pit and then they said let me check... heres the kicker........ they "checked" for lock jaw by grabbing his mouth and feeling along his jaw... ha ha ha...and said... Nope hes not... no lock jaw.... so my dad has dismissed the fact that he could have been a pit because these "dog inspectors" told him so...

:p

Maybe he was keyless, that's why they couldn't find the lock...


Oh, and I'm going to apologize to Gripenfelter because I thought malamutes were a type of husky.

Luvmypit
May 17th, 2005, 11:21 AM
LOL That a good idea Babyrocky! I can imagine there would be no takers!

I go down his throat all the time but thats for chicken wings and bones he picks up on his walk.... Little brat...
Its funny how many people think they know dogs and they are soooo sure of themselves. Especially when they they make up technics to check for imaginary things...

I once was told that my scottish terrier had beagle in him. There was no way. I think people think you don't know better so they just throw something out there. I have also been told that Capone was a staffie... Which atleast could be possible...


Nice one Schwinn!

babyrocky1
May 18th, 2005, 07:22 PM
Ihad a good ANTI-stereotype day, Rocky met a Chow Chow on his walk and it was LOVE! Chows are another breed with a bad rep. Maybe they could relate to each other, as they are both seen as outcasts. Anyway those two aggresive breeds that only know how to fight with other dogs, sure did get along!!! As soon as he saw her he went right into a play bow, I think his date with Kayla has awoken something in him :love: Good to see your sense of humour hasn't suffered from your bad week Schwinn LOL

Lucky Rescue
May 18th, 2005, 10:33 PM
No joke my own father told me the other day that pits had locking jaws

When anyone says that to me, I ask them to explain in detail exactly how that works physiologically. Ask your dad just how a jaw can "lock" and how does it unlock. :confused:

Karin
May 19th, 2005, 07:09 AM
When anyone says that to me, I ask them to explain in detail exactly how that works physiologically. Ask your dad just how a jaw can "lock" and how does it unlock. :confused:

Now you are being just plain silly LR! Everyone knows the latest models have keyless entrys now. (This supercedes the combination locks that have been out dated)

JessXx
May 26th, 2005, 12:09 AM
:rolleyes: I know what you are going through...
My dog is an American Husky...
Oh right as soon as the word husky comes in they're all stereotypical...
I get this
'does she bite' Answer- NO! She never bites, she couldn't hurt a fly and shes the most gentle dog...
'does she pull sleds' (OMG :rolleyes: ) ANSWER- OF COURSE NOT! She's a dog not a tool that you use to get around. AND SHE ISNT A HUSKY!
........ blah
This is my dog...

greaterdane
May 26th, 2005, 07:38 AM
I usually get look at the pony or thats a huge grey hound while walking the dane

With my black and white chi, everyone thinks she is a rat terrier or "the taco bell dog" or thats a chihuahua and.... put breed in here

With my hairy little chi everyone thinks he is a girl and my she is a he. Just because his feathery hair he is automatically a girl

with ozzy we get everything, from german shepherd to husky but never a pitt of a staff which is what he mainly is. He has the body of a staff and ears of a shepherd as well as his coat but smooth to the body like a staff and husky eyes.

My pet peeve is "Where is your saddle"

Writing4Fun
May 26th, 2005, 05:37 PM
My father is still trying to convince me that Phoebe is a coyote. :p

doggy lover
June 2nd, 2005, 11:18 AM
I try to educate, alot of people don't know that BC"S come in different colours and in different fur types, I have had Tucker called a spaniel or a mutt, so what can you do and no he doesn't chase cars, bikes or other moving vehicles or herd children. He is 100% BC

raingirl
June 2nd, 2005, 11:36 AM
I think it comes with every dog.

there is a kid in my building who hates dogs and is terribly afraid of them. He thinks my dog is a pit bull, so he runs around the lobby screaming "it's a pit bull, it's a pit bull, run run" every time we see him and we have the dog. He is like...5 or 6. I have told him over and over again it's an english bulldog, but he doesn't even listen he is shaking he is so scared.

Most people think my dog is a mutt or a pit or something like that.

doggy lover
June 2nd, 2005, 11:42 AM
With my last dog the GSD X BMD that weighed 120lbs people would cross the road so they didn't pass us, little did they know that Travis would walk into the grass and ignore people as they passed by.

Kariia
June 24th, 2005, 05:44 PM
"As someone has in their sig line 'There are no bad dogs, just bad dog owners'"

*coughcough*

Anyway, I have to say I can NOT tell the difference between a Malamute and a Husky...and when I first saw Dodger, I was sure he was a Beagle.

I've had people mistake my Chow for a Pomeranian...and when I had a Maltese, people thought it was a white Yorkie...

Rottielover
June 24th, 2005, 07:26 PM
One thing that really gets me is when people approach me who have a rottweiler ( ok a badly bred one) and asks me if he is german or american. I feel myself always repeating there are only one breed of rottweiler. and that is a rottweiler. The only difference is where they are whelped. All Rottweilers have some sort of decendants from germany. LOL
This is where I laugh and say I guess you can say mine is canadian, he was whelped in canada. :angel: :ca: