May 11th, 2005, 09:43 PM
K, so hi everyone. Found this place through Google. :P
My Golden died in January suddenly of a heart tumour rupture. My family was absolutely DEVASTATED. Me especially, I was attached to her and I was actually depressed for quite awhile. I'm only 16, I have a 13 year old sister and 2 working parents.
Now, onto the question. We're getting another Golden from teh same breeder. We're getting a great one for sure, we're naming Maggie. She's a light coloured one. Very cute let me assure you.
Just the other day, someone dropped out of getting a female golden, now we have the chance to get 2. I've almost convinced myh parents of getting 2... keyword is almost. They think it'll be too hard, and a hassle. With my last dog, she wasn't a hassle in teh least bit. She was an amazing dog who caused no problems. I told them I'll feed htem, clean upafter them, etc. They insist that it'll cause more problems then not.
I think it'd be great to get 2 so they keep eachother company during teh day when nobody is home (school / work).
Do you guys think our family should get 2? I know we'd love them and give them equal attention so that won't be an issue. Please reply ASAP as we don't have much time to decide.
Thanks a lot. :)
May 11th, 2005, 10:12 PM
I would pass on the second dog. Puppies take lots of time and training. Concentrate on one and get a second when it is a couple of years old. They will be much happier.
May 11th, 2005, 11:09 PM
Hmm, really? I know that it's now or never with my parents. They procrastinate a LOT and will not get 2 unless we get 2 now. I know I'm going to end up training them both separetely, ofcourse not separate THEM, just train them separetely.
I know they'll focus on eachother but I'll try to work past that. I think I (with the help of many others) would be able to trrain them fine. I don't know, I just think having 2 would be better for the DOGS in the long run.
May 11th, 2005, 11:28 PM
Having 2 is like having twins. You never get to appreciate any of the puppy years because you are always busy doing something. Get one, and get another a little later on. Trainign one is a time consuming process. 2 simultaneously is a difficult task.
May 12th, 2005, 12:55 AM
I don't think it's a good idea. Two pups is hard work and when they get older, being the same size, same age, and maybe same sex(?) can be the cause of conflicts. If there is an age difference, things will have a better chance of running smoothly. Better to do one at a time, get through the difficult stages and then get another.
I say no. Wait at least a year. JMO
(And don't forget to post pics of the pup when you get her)
May 12th, 2005, 06:42 AM
You are not going to like my advice as it sounds like you have your mind made up. Actually I am not sure why you are even asking the question but here goes. :D
If you want your puppy to bond with you then get just one. If you get two they will continue to bond with each other. It will be very difficult to train two at a time.
I have two goldens right now. I had three until last October when I lost my 13 year old to heart failure. I did not get them at the same time. I waited years in between. They are a great breed but require tons of attention and exercise. Just because your first golden was easy doesn't mean that the new puppies will be.
May 12th, 2005, 07:08 AM
I have a 17 year old daughter and I can promise you - she doesn't have time to train one dog, let alone 2. Between her school and her homework, she barely has time to walk a dog.
You asked our opinions. We gave them to you.
May 12th, 2005, 07:36 AM
Like the others said, two puppies are alot of work. Potty training especially will be much more difficult. I also think that you should get one and when that one is older and trained than another puppy. The puppies are going to want to play together and will ignore you for the most part. They will bond to eachother first and foremost.
You should take your parents' feelings into consideration. I know that you really want two, but your parents are not keen on that. They are also the ones who will have to carry the expense of two dogs.
You say you will take care of them and I'm not doubting that at all. But what happens when you finish highschool and go off to college or university? What about when you get married and leave the house? Remember that these puppies will live anywhere from 12 to 15 years. Will you take them with you? Your parents have already said they only want one. What will happen if you get both now and in 5 years you move out? Will you take one with you or both of them should your parents not want to keep them?
These are all things that you should consider.
Good luck with the new puppy and please post pictures! :)
May 12th, 2005, 07:48 AM
The concept of two puppies keeping each other company while no one is home sounds good in theory but means several things:
1) Double the mess to clean up
2) Double the destruction to repair
3) Double the trouble to train
I would assume that these dogs will be a minimum of 7 hours alone which means:
1) how do they get trained to potty outside
2) how do they get properly socialised
3) how do they develop into proper respectable adults
Honestly, I can't see someone as young as yourself relishing having to clean up when you get home from school, taking them both for walks and working on training them without the novelty wearing pretty thin and the dogs ending up being given back or one being given back to the breeder. I rather doubt that your younger sibling will find this a whole lot of fun.
I think your parents are wise to only consider one.
It might not be what you wanted to hear but think of it this way... when you have your own place and life, you can have as many as you like. In the meantime, although it's difficult at your age, think about the volume of work for your parents and respect their decision to only get one. :)
May 12th, 2005, 08:03 AM
I agree....get only one.
A perk of waiting a few years is that once your first dog is trained he/she will help you train a new pup. If you get two now, you're in for trouble.
They'll have a pack mentality and stick to each other---leaving you out in the cold without the companion you so dearly wanted.
May 12th, 2005, 08:32 AM
I have to agree with the others.I would wait.I have raised 2- 3 month old GSD's,and I can tell you it's a lot of hard work.Having one pup is easier to give your full attention to for the training,but having two takes alot of time.You have to be fully dedicated to doing this.And there is also money issues.If both get sick,can you afford the money it's going to cost to see the vet?The only reason I had 2 was because one was going into Police work with my brother.If I wasn't doing this,would I have raised 2 pups just for myself?I doubt it.It's just way to much work.I'm not saing it can't be done,I know others who have raised 2 pups.But I think it would be a better idea if you just had the one.
Also,you and your sister are both teens and I am sure you both have things that you want to do.Friends,going out,having fun.And if your not doing this now,maybe in a few months.Is it fair that your parents will be having to do all the training,feeding,walking?I know when my daughter was 16 I hardly saw her.LOL....Heck she's 18 and has more of a life than me.... :D
I also have to agree with what Beaglemom said about the collage and University.Will you take them with you?If you say yes,things may chnge when the time comes.My daughter keeps bugging me that she wants a Beagle.A breed she loves and knows all about.My answer to this is,when you move out.Why did I say this?Because she is barely home.And if she thinks I'm doing the training and feeding and walking,well she's wrong.Don't get me wrong.But why should I have to take care of a dog she wants.We already have one.
WOW,this tuned out to be a long post.....LOL
May 12th, 2005, 10:54 AM
Roach9 - I hear so much of myself in your post, I love animals so much and it's almost like a drug - I want as much/as many around me as possible. But sometimes less is in fact more.
I often get fixated on something and I can see myself wanting 2 puppies but realistically I know that it isn't fair for anyone involved.
I'm in univeristy so I have a lot more flexibility in my schedule than I did in high school. Still, Dodger's (my pupppy) training had to go on hold. I managed a beginner class but couldn't continue until now (we're signed up for intermediate obedience beginning next week).
I know that it is upsetting/frustrating to not get what you want, especially when you honestly believe that it is for the best. I really want to emphasize that you won't be able to enjoy each puppy if you have 2. I know that I would much rather devote my time/attention to 1 puppy, to ensure that we have a wondeful, close bond.
Finally, the financial burden of a single puppy, let alone 2 is huge. Especially if you end up with a pup (like mine) that has issues!!
Having 1 puppy, I think is the best choice right now.
I know that it is difficult to accept what we are all trying to say right now but you will understand. Unfortunately, nobody can do it all at one time - just stick with one golden!
P.S - I totally understand about the whole parent-procrastination thing - I still have to deal with my Mum's inability to make decisons without a huge debating and planning stage!!! :D
Don't forget to post pictures!!
And I am so sorry that you lost your previous golden so suddenly :sad:
May 12th, 2005, 10:59 AM
I am one of the biggest dog lovers there is and I choose to have only one dog (coincidentally a golden retriever). I am an adult who makes her own decisions and could have two or more dogs if I wanted. So why do I want only one? Because I wanted to make the proper investment into my one dog - I wanted her to be the best companion she could be. You talk about your last golden being really well behaved - well they don't come like that as puppies! This only happens after a very full first year (or two!) of training and hard work. While goldens are generally great tempered and loving, they are VERY excitable and tend to be destructive (chewing, nipping, jumping up, digging) as puppies. One golden pup will be more than enough to keep your hands full. Think of it this way - with one pup you can focus all your time and energy into the bond the two of you have. Take her to training classes, work with her one on one, groom her to be the best pet that she can be....it will be SO rewarding for both of you, and she will blossom under your devotion to her. Also, bear in mind that one dog is easy to transport places, and you can also bring a well behaved dog to your friends' homes... two big dogs are not as welcomed, especially when they are young.
Last but not least, I once read that two young (same age) pups will always prefer each other's company to yours...wouldn't that be a bit disappointing to you as the owner?
May 12th, 2005, 12:01 PM
I read that aswell in my Golden Retriever's For Dummies book.. not to get two puppies at once as they WILL bond with each other as they are a pack animals and will not bond with their humane owner.
I too understand how you would want more then one dog at a time I would have ten if I could. But one golden is enough as they do need alot of time spent with them, they love people and love to learn. Roach9 I agree with others you should have one golden for now, never know what your parents might do down the road, wait a year or more then try to talk them into just one more ;)
May 12th, 2005, 12:11 PM
I agree with everyone. And if I had a million dollars, I swear I would end up with thousands of animals, but obviously that can't happen. I think training and getting to know one dog first would be better. Then get another dog down the road, once you've established a close bond with the first one. Plus, the older one can help you train the little one. ;)
May 12th, 2005, 12:31 PM
I also agree with the others. We got a newf pup for my son (who lives in his own home) and the pup is almost 6 months old now. We got our own pup a couple of weeks ago. My husband cares for both of the pups during the day. Although Parker (the 6 mo old) was house trained before we got Hazel, he has regressed since we got Hazel. If she has an accident, he is sure to follow. The others are also right about an older dog helping to train a pup - I've seen it first hand. With our first newf pup (passed at 18 months of genetic kidney deformity) when I would stand outside and tell her 'go potty', over and over again, my older dog would stand right in front of her and pee! Like she was telling the pup - this is what she wants you to do! :D Unfortunately, Boon passed away a few months ago, so I don't have her to help me train Hazel! :sad:
May 12th, 2005, 05:11 PM
Ok, thank you guys a lot. I'll stick with one.
I'll post pics when I get her.
Thanks again! :)
May 12th, 2005, 05:37 PM
I think you've made the best decision Roach. It's very hard when they are little, but also when they are older...something I didn't notice in any of the posts. It would be extremely difficult when they are older as you could stand to lose both your puppies in the same year....as they will age together. When they are different ages you won't typically have to suffer the multiple loss...which could be very depressing.
Anyways, congratulations on your decision! Can't wait for pictures!
May 12th, 2005, 06:32 PM
yey just one!! That lucky doggy will have all the love and attention you would have given the two of them. Lucky doggy. :)
May 12th, 2005, 06:54 PM
[QUOTE=Lizzie]"I think you've made the best decision Roach. It's very hard when they are little, but also when they are older...something I didn't notice in any of the posts. It would be extremely difficult when they are older as you could stand to lose both your puppies in the same year....as they will age together. When they are different ages you won't typically have to suffer the multiple loss...which could be very depressing. "
This is a very good point, of course its the last thing on your mind when you get your wee one, but this is what happened to me with my cats. Two were from the same litter and the next year we found another stray kitten, twenty years later, two years of sick and dying cats. It was really difficult as Im sure you can all imagine. :sad: