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May 3rd, 2005, 02:31 PM
Hi, my name is Kathleen and I am new here. I will introduce my furbabies I have Monty hes a male german pointer and i have sax a dsh cat. I will get pictures asap. I will tell you how I got Monty. I was going to the grocerey stare and I seen someone beating and hitting this poor little dog :mad: , he was about 4 months at that time, I went up to the guy and asked him to knock it off before i call the cops. He said do you think you can do better here take him, he guy handed me his leash and left. So thats how I got monty. I got Sax from the animal aid about 5 years ago. So thats my family :D

May 3rd, 2005, 02:32 PM
Welcome!!!! Looking forward to the pix...

May 3rd, 2005, 02:36 PM
I will take one now

May 3rd, 2005, 02:40 PM
Heres Monty Napping

May 3rd, 2005, 02:43 PM
Heres Another

May 3rd, 2005, 02:49 PM
Welcome! :crazy:

Monty is adorable!! How old is he now, and, what kind of pointer is he?

May 3rd, 2005, 03:55 PM
Good for you for standing up for Monty :angel: and for taking him in and giving him a forever home where he is loved :love: :thumbs up

May 3rd, 2005, 04:49 PM
Hi and welcome to you, Monty and Sax! Three cheers for you for coming to the aid of Monty and providing him with the loving home he deserves. :thumbs up

My neighbour got his lovely GSD,Tessa, as a puppy in roughly the same way. He observed some creep throw her off a second floor balcony! He had the same exchange that you did... and wound up taking her home.. She's passed away now, but had a very long and happy life with him - as I'm sure Monty will with you.
Hope you enjoy the site! :)

May 3rd, 2005, 06:06 PM
Special Welcome from the Pointer brigade :party:

May 3rd, 2005, 06:20 PM
your gonna love it here!!

May 3rd, 2005, 06:59 PM
The vet has said he was a german pointer, :) I hate it when anilmals get abused and I cant stand seeing people throwing away thier animals. I have always adopted from a shelter, and thanks for the welcoming :grouphug:

May 3rd, 2005, 07:05 PM
Welcome and God Bless you for being there and standing up for what's right!! The poor pup couldn't do anything about it,,,,but, you did :) :thumbs up :thumbs up
The world needs more folks like you (and the rest of us here at

May 3rd, 2005, 07:13 PM
welcome you'll love it here....i know i do.....hugs from me and my family

May 3rd, 2005, 08:13 PM
He looks black, pretty rare here as the AKC and CKC bench shows don't recognize the blacks.

That's wierd that a black would end up in the hands of an abuser.

They have only been brought from Germany recently and by serious hunting dog breeders and trialers. The dogs are registered with the Deutsch Kurzhaar club. Unlike the CKC/AKC regs that simply require registered parents the DK's require parentage AND pass conformation evaluation AND pass hunting ability tests (Pointing, tracking, water work, fur, feather....)AND temperament test. In order to be ALLOWED to breed one the standards are even higher.

May 3rd, 2005, 09:28 PM
Welcome on board! :D

May 3rd, 2005, 11:58 PM
It's great that you happened by that poor doggy at the right moment. How old is he now? He looks healthy and happy! ;)

May 4th, 2005, 04:35 AM
Hes still just a pup, hes only nine months old. I never new that the black fur part was rare, i will have to ask my vet

May 4th, 2005, 07:53 AM
The Deutsche Kurzhaar club will not allow two Black dogs to be mated. Only two livers or a liver and a black. That keeps the blackness from wiping out the livers as black is dominant. If I remember correctly way back in the early days of the breed development a dog with black dominant was introduced into the program and all dogs out of that line can throw black pups.

There is also a case , unproven though widely accepted as fact, of some idiot kennel in the SW US breeding in some English pointer to their line and claiming it was pure German shorthair. They did this in order to create German Shorthairs capable of winning field trials. Basically, they cheated.

So every now and again a GSP pup arrives with liver and black or orange or lemon. These dogs are all disqualified. I think this a big reason why the AKC did not recognize the authentic blacks in bench shows. Just kept it simple, the dog must be a variation of liver and white.

The blacks however are allowed to compete in field trials and hunt tests etc.

BTW, English pointers and German shorthairs have no relation. In fact German Shorthair Pointer is a misnomer. Technically they aren't actually pointers.

They are in a class called versatile hunting dogs, sometimes called gun dogs. Pointers are specialists at running ground and pointing game The versatiles (German Shorthairs, wirehairs, longhairs, Vislas, Weimaraners, all the griffons - the French Braques, Italian Spinone...) were bred not to be specialist but generalists that can hunt anything anywhere as well as be a decent watch dog, family companion and they even have been used as herders. In Northern Europe and increasing here in North America the GSP's have become a dominant force in sled racing and skiijoring. The sprint types with one or just a few dogs. Not the big teams you see in the Iditirod.

That is why the cheaters introduced English pointer blood. As a generalist the GSP's are at a disadvantage in a field trial that only measures the dogs ability to find birds. And also why the German registry insists that the dog be able to prove its versatile capabilities to be registered and bred.

There is a big controversy in North America that just as show breeders weaken the quality of a breed by not proving it's capability at it's specific job/function and temperament but only breeding for conformation; So too do the field trialers mess up the versatile breeds by trying to turn them into specialist in order to win the sanctioned competitions. That is in part why German imports are becoming popular again as these dogs are more true to the original due to the strict breeding regulations there.

May 4th, 2005, 09:46 AM
Wow i had no idea, this is interesting

May 4th, 2005, 10:34 AM
Welcome to the site! I am sure that you will find all kinds of useful information, as well as great comradarie! Your pup is so lucky that you were in the right place at the right time! :thumbs up

May 4th, 2005, 01:45 PM
Well I talked to my vet and he said the same thing you did db7. But he also said that the black fur isnt uncommon for his breed of dog. So i have just learned something new today :thumbs up