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Puppy go shopping?

yviej
April 19th, 2005, 01:17 PM
Hi,

I'm just wondering if you bring your dog shopping with you? I have a 16-week Pekingese cross and would love to bring him out with me but I'm not sure if I am allowed to bring him into certain places like malls, supermarkets, coffee shops, etc. He is very well behaved in public although he is also friendly and extremely adorable so, whenever I do take him out for walks, he would attract a whole bunch of people wanting to pet him and he would give them kisses. :p

Eleni
April 19th, 2005, 01:20 PM
ive been wondering the same thing since im trying to get sammy used to noisy places, hopefully to get him over his fear of noisy places


Eleni

Prin
April 19th, 2005, 01:22 PM
Supposedly you can bring your pet anywhere where there is no food and no signs saying you can't. Personally, I think walking downtown is ultimate place to see how your dog reacts to "Hustle and bustle"...

Sneaky2006
April 19th, 2005, 01:29 PM
I thought it was a Pomeranian, or is it a pom/Pekinese mix? Is it the same one as your avatar?? Sorry, don't have an answer to your question, I was just curious about the pup... he's so cute! :)

Writing4Fun
April 19th, 2005, 01:30 PM
Well, I had heard that there is no law stating that pets are not allowed in public places (other than places that serve/sell food, for health reasons). However, I have tested this on many occasions and find that it's really hit and miss as to who will let you in to their establishments.

I know that the Home Depot in our area will allow you to bring your dog in, if s/he's well-behaved and leashed at all times. The WalMart in our area will let you bring your dog into the vestibule (area between the two doors), if you tell them that s/he's in training and you're trying to socialize her/him. Simcoe Building lets you bring your dog into their store as well, and they even have a basket of biscuits at the register. Apparently (I've never experienced this one myself) Home Hardware will also let you bring your pet in. Canadian Tire doesn't allow it. Neither does Royal Distributing (if you're in the area). I don't know about public transit, either (since I never use it), but apparently GO doesn't allow pets on board.

yviej
April 19th, 2005, 01:39 PM
Hey Sneaky,

Honestly, we are not entirely sure of what his exact breed is 'cos my boyfriend got him for me and couldn't quite remember what the breeder told him and forgot the paperwork at the breeder's place. I just recently found the receipt that he got and it says that he was a Pekingese cross so, I'm just going by that. But we think he is probably a Pekingese Pomeranian cross. My vet thinks that he is a Pomeranian cross too. Thank you for the compliment .. he is indeed a cutie pie.

Thank you all for all your help ... that's what I thought too but just wanted to reassurance.

raingirl
April 19th, 2005, 03:57 PM
the only place I know for sure that allows dogs is the pet stores. Everywhere else, I leave the dog at home, unless it's outside. During the summer in Brampton we have a farmers market on Saturday mornings. I can't wait to take Odin with us as everyone brings their dogs.

SnowDancer
April 19th, 2005, 04:08 PM
My experience has pretty much been same as Wrighting4Fun - except I did take my Eskimo pup into Canadian Tire next to Pet Smart on Laird in Toronto- put him into a shopping cart with a tight hold on the seat belt strap of his harness and we toured the store with puppy waving at people like Prince Charles. I think this Canadian Tire allowed it simply because of the proximity to Pet Smart and the Home Depot just behind it. I did same at Home Depot. As Eskie's weight increased it became harder to carry him and I would prefer he not walk - unless it is a Pet Smart with clean-up stations. Also it is easier with people - you never know how your dog will react to certain people - and apparently my Eskie is "very good looking for an ugly breed" - I quote John Q Public on the street and everybody wants to pet him. NICE. Actually HE is very pretty. I have carried him into the corner store though to get a Coke. He did go to Restoration Hardware and was given cookies so they allow dogs. Malls generally don't allow them. Holt Renfrew does but I would definitely be carrying him in there.

BMDLuver
April 19th, 2005, 04:23 PM
ummmmm, I might get slammed for this but personally I don't think your dog should be anywhere but in a pet food store. Many people dislike dogs and would prefer not to encounter them when out. Also, I was recently shopping at Provigo (grocery store) and here's a family with the dog in the cart along with all the groceries. The dog was probably the most dirty Bichon I had ever seen and it's laying on meat. I do understand the need for assistance dogs to be with their owners but I don't understand the reasoning behind bringing a regular pet dog grocery shopping. :sorry: I think that dogs have a place and so do people who don't want a dog. This coming from a rescuer, go figure, lol.

kandy
April 19th, 2005, 04:31 PM
Since your pup is only 16 weeks, I wouldn't take them anywhere just yet. You should wait until at least 6 months to allow their immune system time to fully develop. Your pup could pick up all sorts of stuff in the pet store and get sick. Same with any place that there might be other dogs - puppies can pick up all sorts of sicknesses in places like that. Once they are at least six months, you can take them wherever you want (and can get away with) :)

greaterdane
April 19th, 2005, 04:48 PM
Well personally I take my dogs everywhere, the chihuahuas that is. When I first got one I was always bringing her to school for my seminars and lectures. My one TA even let her sit on the desk and watch. It was great socialization for her. Of course none of this happened until after her 2nd set of shots, with fear of parvo and all. I have taken both shopping in the US, of course I dont have them out. I have many purse like dog bags that I carry them in. My LV one is perfect for both to ride together and if anything I have yet to have someone get upset that I have a dog, they are usually just fascinated or complimenting. I wouldnt bring them into the grocery store and was once told to leave Costco lol :) Just call me a rebel with a chihuahua. I wonder what they would say if I showed up with Atticus at home depot??

nymph
April 19th, 2005, 04:48 PM
I bring my puppy to SuperPet, that's the only place I bring him.

Eleni
April 19th, 2005, 04:56 PM
Since your pup is only 16 weeks, I wouldn't take them anywhere just yet. You should wait until at least 6 months to allow their immune system time to fully develop. Your pup could pick up all sorts of stuff in the pet store and get sick. Same with any place that there might be other dogs - puppies can pick up all sorts of sicknesses in places like that. Once they are at least six months, you can take them wherever you want (and can get away with) :)


I thought the only worry in that respect was before their shots are finished??

i never heard anything about 6 months, in fact my vet encouraged me to get sammy out into the public as much as possible to help him overcome his nervousness in public


Eleni

greaterdane
April 19th, 2005, 04:58 PM
I think 6 months is just a precaution. I know after their second round of shots they can enter puppy school, but I would watch dog parks etc until after their 3rd set.

greaterdane
April 19th, 2005, 05:13 PM
HMPH... Just got off the phone with my local Home Depot and they said no to me bringing Atticus in :(

kandy
April 19th, 2005, 05:22 PM
I've always been told that pups are vulnerable until 6 months (providing they get their shots on time). Although I wouldn't take a puppy to anyplace with other dogs around until 6 months, I wouldn't hesitate to socialize with family, friends, etc. I am talking about having them around strange dogs who may not be vaccinated, not other family/friends dogs. I totally agree that socialization, socialization, socialization (wow, say that three times fast :D ) is the key with raising a companionable dog - I just say wait to have them around strange dogs until their immune system is good. :)

mafiaprincess
April 19th, 2005, 05:47 PM
I used to take Cider everywhere... Wrapped in a baby blanket, in my arms..

I was hoping to get an outward hound side bag for her.. like a sling, but even though she is the right weight for one, her little body is too big.

I took her into a small mall to go to a radio shack, into walmart when I need a potty box for her (rubbermaid container) needed to see if it was big enough, and a few other places.

Now, I only take her to outdoor places, and to petstores. 19 pounds is too heavy to carry around anyhow now that she's grown up.

I had an issue with carrying her into walmart.. the greeter threw a fit, and I thought she was going to call security, but it was 20 below outside, and people steal puppies.. I was not exactly nice... but she was a b**** about it.. it was a one time deal because I needed something for Cider though..

greaterdane
April 19th, 2005, 05:52 PM
mafia, was it the 4th ave walmart? The greeter through a hissy when she saw me leaving with a chihuahua in my purse, she shoved her hand in my bag and pushed the poor guys head right down telling me i cant have him in there.

Shamrock
April 19th, 2005, 06:42 PM
Your puppy is adorable! :love: Congratulations on the this little sweetheart.

Well, I bring my dog almost everywhere,(except supermarkets and restaurants for obvious reasons)
I always bring along my pooch-pouch carrier when I am out walking, (or driving) and then I just pop him inside. He is six pounds... easy to pack around.

I've taken to him to the WalMart many times, plus the video store, the library .. window shopping in various malls. I've had him on the bus, our rapid transit system here (skytrain), and this one is pretty good - I once stopped and got my hair cut while he sat on my lap. ;)

I do bring him to the pet store also, but keep him inside the carrier as well.

Lizzie
April 19th, 2005, 07:37 PM
I agree...it's not fair to take your dogs to all stores, and restaurants, etc. People can be allergic, don't like or afraid. It's neighbourly to wait out front with your dog---not to take it in.

mafiaprincess
April 19th, 2005, 07:54 PM
Sure was that Walmart. The cashier told me she is wretched to kids, animals, adults, seniors, stuffed animals....

greaterdane
April 19th, 2005, 09:18 PM
Its such a small world. That lady only works evenings, its an older gentlemen during the day who is nice to my little ones. The lady with the limp that hates kids, cats dogs, the world somedays, really needs to look into a different job, not a walmart greeter.

Safyre
April 19th, 2005, 09:49 PM
Sorry, but I don't think people should be bringing animals into malls and stores either. Mostly because of allergies, and fears that it could produce.

savannah
April 20th, 2005, 08:01 AM
I have a pekingese, and we have always taken her almost everywhere we go.
I have an advantage though, as I have a young child, and have to take a stroller with me when i go out. So underneath the stroller there is a basket, and we got one with a big enough basket to comfortably fit her.
I have seen people take their dogs (small enough to be carried) to Walmart, Winners, The Bay, etc. I have not seen any dogs in supermarkets, and i can understand why.
If anyone shoved their hand at my dog's head, you better believe i would have done same to her. Absolutely no one is allowed to raise a hand at my dog without repercussions.
When i do go out with my dog, i am always prepared to be asked to leave. Just keep that in mind.

mona_b
April 20th, 2005, 09:13 AM
I agree that they shouldn't be taken to malls or stores either.I have seen it many times where people are carrying their little dogs and pups through the malls.And I have seen Security tell them they are not allowed.There are signs on the entrence doors stating they are not allowed.They even have them in the food courts.The only dogs allowed in there are service dogs in training,and Guide dogs.

When I was training Tron,I did take him to the mall,but not often.He did have his bright orange jacket on stating he was in training.I usualy took him to crowded areas like downtown,and to the fairs,friends that had barbacues.The only place I wasn't able to take Yukon was the mall.But every other place Tron went,Yukon also followed.

By 16 weeks all shots are done.And at that age my boys were around all different dogs.I didn't wait till they were 6 months.And I never had any problems with them picking anything up from other dogs.

Writing4Fun
April 20th, 2005, 09:44 AM
I agree that people shouldn't take dogs anywhere food is sold, no matter how small or portable they are. I admit that it is a little annoying to see a small dog in a place where my medium-sized dog would not be allowed simply because of her size. Size discrimination is an ugly thing. :p

BUT, dogs that may become therapy dogs (which is my intention with Phoebe) need to be socialized and exposed to all the sights, smells and sounds out there in the "real world". That includes people in wheel chairs, people with canes, people with all sorts of challenges, automatic sliding doors, etc... That's why our trainer suggested the vestibule at WalMart (just between the two doors). We don't allow her to run up to greet everyone, obviously. She's placed in a "sit+stay" off to the side. If anyone shows interest, they are allowed to pet her & give her a treat.

Unfortunately, "potential therapy dogs" don't get to wear identifying vests, so we ALWAYS ask permission before taking her anywhere.

mona_b
April 20th, 2005, 11:08 AM
Unfortunately, "potential therapy dogs" don't get to wear identifying vests, so we ALWAYS ask permission before taking her anywhere.

Well they don't usually have it for those training for the Police K9 Unit,but I got one...... :thumbs up

nymph
April 20th, 2005, 03:42 PM
I think 6 months is just a precaution. I know after their second round of shots they can enter puppy school, but I would watch dog parks etc until after their 3rd set.

Most of puppy schools in the Ottawa area require 3 shots including rabies and bordetella(??) to be able to register in a puppy school.

I would love to see a more pet-friendly society, like Europe, where many more stores are open to pets.

greaterdane
April 20th, 2005, 03:43 PM
3 of the pet schools in the Niagara region that I called only required 2 sets of shots, I didnt call outside of my region.

mafiaprincess
April 20th, 2005, 03:59 PM
I talked to every school in the phonebook, and 2 sets of shots was the norm.

When we started shcool we were the only ones with 3 sets and rabies..

nymph
April 20th, 2005, 04:30 PM
I guess there is a regional disparity. I was looking for a puppy school for my Diego, and had called pretty much all puppy schools around the Ottawa region, most of them require 3 shots. A certificate of vaccination is also required.

Shamrock
April 20th, 2005, 04:34 PM
I have to agree there is an element of unfairness about this.
Signs dont mention dog size, do they? ;)

I should clarify that if I "know" I am going shopping,. and will be a while, I dont bring my dog. Why does he need to come?

But- when I am out, usually on foot, and want to make a "quick stop" somewhere, I bring him in. I stay well away from any area that contains food and I am generally brief.

The alllergies and fears are valid points, but are present in other forms also.
The perfume/aftershave of some patrons, floral and other heavily scented shops might bother those with allergies.
And as for fear - well..lol.. some groups of teens hanging around the malls give me pause for concern.

Only my dogs head is visible, enclosed inside a nylon bag. As a toy poodle, hei s about as hypo-allegenic as a dog can be.

But, technically, yes.. he shouldnt be there. I am "bending" the rules, and if the shoe was on the other foot.. I might resent this doggy "discrimination" based on size. :crazy:

jiorji
April 20th, 2005, 08:54 PM
i'm not yet a dog owner but i think small dog breeds or puppies are allowed in wya more places than a big dog.

where i work we get a lot of small breed dogs coming in with their "parents", they're mostly being held.
This one lady came in with a minpin and nobody said anything. However if someone were to bring in a Doberman i doubt it would be allowed to walk through the store. It's a home decor store. *i* personally wouldn't care tho.
Another incident happened at Michael's. Someone came in with a little dixie pup. It was so cute. It was walking around leashed chewing on the price tags and items that were within reach. And i don't think anyone said anything cos it was small and cute lol. But if a great dane were to do that I doubt it would get the same response unfortunately.

So if it's a puppy why not try it??Put it in your shopping cart and hide it amongst paper towels lol j/k
The worst that can happen is have a sales rep tell you to leave.

Sadie's Mom
April 21st, 2005, 12:19 AM
I would love to take Sadie absolutely everywhere, but I understand why that's not possible.

I have a great carrier for her that really hides her well, and she doesn't mind it for a short period of time. Plus, it looks like a cute pink purse! I'll pop her in there when I go into a store that I'm not sure about.

But shopping on Whyte ave, she goes everywhere with me! The stores there usually love it. And summer is great because now I even get to eat with her thanks to patios.

Just today my friend and I were saying how we wished we lived in Paris where you can bring your dog everywhere!

Shaykeija
April 21st, 2005, 02:24 AM
I was in my hairdresser the other day. The owner was having fits. So I asked her what was up. Someone brought their little little terrier in the shop. When the guy went to pay he left the really small dog on the chair. Some toddler went up and poked it. And the dog bit the kid. Screaming and yelling followed by threats of lawsuits followed. Turns out the guy who owned the dog is one of the senoir partners in a huge law firm here. Can you say " settle out of court" real fast? I very seldome bring my girls where there are lots of people. The girls love people but it's too stressful for me. I don't like peope touching my girls. Big mean protective momma here. :p

yviej
April 21st, 2005, 11:57 AM
Oh wow ! It's great to see so many people responding with a lot of different views.

I work in a shoe store part-time in the mall and once in awhile I would see owners with little puppies come in with their pups in their carriers. And nobody says anything by cooed at the puppies. So, this is why I'm wondering. I am no so sure about how the other stores would react. I wouldn't take my puppies into a restaurant or a supermarket though (anything that sells foods). I'm inquiring because I would love to take my puppy with me when I'm out and about simply because there are times with my family members would like to go out and do their own thing and that would mean my puppy would be left alone and I cannot bare leaving him by himself ever.

He is 16 weeks old and has officially completed his vaccinations until next year (yay !! He even got a certificate to prove it ! :thumbs up ) Even though he isn't quite grown up yet, he is at least protected against a lot of the illnesses out there.

Maybe I should go get his a carrier. Maybe this would be.

But thank you all for all your contributions. It's great help.

kandy
April 21st, 2005, 04:38 PM
I don't think I could put my newf puppy in my purse to take him anywhere :p although my husband might disagree (about the size of my purse :rolleyes: ). Maybe I'll have to get a baby stroller and put a bonnet on him - think that would fool people? :D

Prin
April 21st, 2005, 09:18 PM
Kandy- I don't think you'd be "taking him". I think you'd be dragging that bag around. Unless it had huge wheels... Purse on wheels...

You'd have to shave his face, and then maybe people might think he was a baby...

kandy
April 22nd, 2005, 11:33 AM
Prin: Just got a mental picture of Parker with his face shaved and a baby bonnet on! :p Thanks for the laugh!

greaterdane
April 22nd, 2005, 01:15 PM
Just mentioning the baby stroller made me think of a woman while we were shopping at the walden galleria just outside Buffalo. She had a stroller with one of those plastic rain covers walking through the mall, inside wasnt a baby, it was 2 little boxer babies. She was bringing them around everywhere too afraid to leave them at home. Personally I thought it was a great idea and considered it for the chihuahuas, but I was afraid people would ask me about my barking baby LOL

Cactus Flower
April 22nd, 2005, 02:51 PM
Great stories, folks! Barking babies, strollers, doggy carriers....


Well I can't hide my Dane, either.

My chiropractor LOVES my dog, and lets me bring her in when I have an appointment. We usually sit on the far end of the waiting room, away from people who might be bothered by being around a dog. This usually works for about five minutes. Then everyone has migrated down to our end, and is giving her all sorts of attention.
A restaurant in town also lets me bring her into their covered patio area. the wait staff gives her treats and cold water. Spoiled poochy!

But after reading this thread, I realize that I need to ask the PATRONS -BEFORE bringing her in- if anyone in the area would be bothered by it.

Thanks for making me think.