April 9th, 2005, 06:43 PM
We took Cider to the dog park today - first time ever. She had such an awesome time.
I was wondering if other people find people at dog parks clique-ish or kinda snooty.. Half the people we met were great, and half the people we met made me wish we hadn't come.
I was wondering if it is really different from park to park or not.
April 9th, 2005, 07:02 PM
I know what you mean, at our old dog park there was a few cliques. The purebreds, the mutts, the well-behaved dogs.....and...us.
both mutts of course, and never hurt a fly, just REALLY REALLY HYPER! Some people that go there, I swear, weren't "dog people"!!!!
April 9th, 2005, 08:03 PM
every single dog park I have ever been to has been like that...very snooty cliquish people...its like a big soap opera..except the characters are all just b i t * c h y dog owners...I noticed especially the ones with the tiny little dogs or the golden retrievers..always complaining how I needed to get my dog away from theirs because she was too rough..UHM SO DON'T BRING YOUR TEA CUP CHIHUAHUA INTO A DOG PARK NEXT TIME!..
I dunno..I've had alot of bad experiences..but I'm perfectly happy anyways..the only reason I used to go is because my pitbull didn't reach maturity yet so I wanted her to interact before the big 2...after she reached maturity and I noticed her getting a bit weird around the other dogs..and too bossy..I stopped going...and thankfully at that..the people were all just a big joke to me..
SO...as you can tell, I hate dog parks and never recommend them..lol THE END :angel:
April 9th, 2005, 08:13 PM
I completely agree!! Most of the people at the park I take my dog to are "snooty". Most of them are clearly wanting to get home ASAP - without delay. I can't count the number of times they call or pull their dog(s) away while he/she is playing, chasing and having the time of their life.
Another "pet peeve" at my dog park is that most dog owners do not poop and scoop.
I was so surprised by my first few visits to the dog park. I expected to be a part of a friendly and dog-savvy group of people who were involved in dog activities. I still have not come across one person or dog who participates in any dog sport/trial or have even completed basic obedience. I thought that I would easily find people who knew A LOT more than I did about training and competing and sadly that just isn't the case.
Unfortunately, since I have been going to the local dog park (a mere 7 months) my 10 month old puppy has already been hit and kicked at by an owner who assumed that my puppy had been one of the dog's trying to dominate his submissive lap-dog! (At 5 months old my puppy was in no position to be dominate and he still isn't today!)
And, something that just happened this afternoon at the dog park: a women did not pick up her dog's poop right in front of me so I went to go pick it up. When I found the poop, I saw that there was blood in it and before I even say anything she starts giving ME attitude. When she finished and I actually told her there was blood in her dog's stool she says "No there isn't, there's nothing wrong with her, I just had her at the vet's!!!". She started to walk away and I told her she needed to get this checked out because there could be something wrong (he dog was old and a bit obese). Eventually, after arguing for a bit she came and looked and did pick it up (I suggested she take it to the vet's) and she just walked away!!
I suppose that it was just a bad day because sometimes I do come across those who are good people and cleary great dog owners.
I'm sorry if I got carried away!!
April 9th, 2005, 10:12 PM
I think the regulars have a bit of attitude but a lot of the time it's for a good reason. Our park is maintained by the members and the people who come once in a while or only on weekend don't appreciate that, don't pick up after themselves (not just after the dogs either- they leave garbage everywhere), they don't help with the work and they let their dogs pee on the benches. We get p*ssed.
It's not so much a regular against visitor thing, it's a respectful, hard-working people vs lazy, inconsiderate people thing. We don't approach anyone whose dog is ok. I mean we change the garbages, we take turns going around the parking picking up all the "missed" loads. I filled 6 bags one day (that's over 24 loads).
There is one dog, Hyper Piper who is insane at the park but we all say, "Better here than at home, right?"
At our park, if you are respectful, you react when your dog is behaving inappropriately and you offer to help when people are working once in a while, no one will say a bad word about it. It doesn't matter if your dog is royally obedient or not, just reacting is enough for us. Some people don't even stand up when their dog is hurt and bleeding after a fight...
I go to dog parks because I am not afraid of being told off by other owners or of dog fights, but if there is a dog there who I don't trust, I will leave. I have separated so many fights there and disciplined so many dogs for biting or being too aggressive and normally people don't mind because the park is safer when I am there. But if they do, I don't particularly care because I would rather keep the dogs safe than worry about politics...
That's my peace.
April 9th, 2005, 11:50 PM
I've only been to an off leash park twice (2 seperate parks). I never noticed any stuck up people but I prefer to simply go into an unused area and walk around or play with my dog alone. If another dog runs into us, I let them sniff. They don't usually want to roughhouse like Ky does, so when they wander off he just comes back to me.
I like parks for the 'off leash exercise' aspect, rather than the 'possible fights with bigger/meaner/untrained/unsocialized dogs' aspect. Ky is only 9 months old and cautious enough. I don't want to chance him getting beat up and possibly becoming dog aggressive. Maybe when he's a mature 18 or 24 months old I'll let him initiate playtime with off leash dogs.
..ugh.. I just read this through, and I sound like such a restrictive/strict parent. lol.
April 10th, 2005, 01:34 AM
At first we thought we were the white trash at the dog park but soon our Dalton became one of the most popular dogs.
Hang in there; learn all the dog's names. We still refer to people as 'Jake's mom' and 'Slater's dad'.
Occasionally we would find ourselves staring at somebody like the girl in front of us in the line at the grocery store. All dressed up in a business suit she was nearly unrecognizable until she said 'Sadie's mom, the Mastiff'. Right. Replace the makeup with a little dirt, replace the suit with winter clothing and how could we not know.
They all come around….
April 10th, 2005, 03:22 AM
Thank you all. I appreciate the experience. I was also expecting really knowledgable owners... but we were the only ones in the park who'd done and graduated basic obedience. And people were shocked I was signed up for advance for next month.
We found non snooty people in the off leash- muddy- standing water section of the park who took the time to learn our dogs name and talk with us.. just when we first got home I was really kinda p****d off. I'm happy she got to play with dogs off leash though, and obviously had a blast. That alone wants me to take her back.
April 10th, 2005, 10:57 AM
I was also expecting really knowledgable owners...
You won't find many really knowledgeable owners going to dog parks. ;)
April 10th, 2005, 11:30 AM
lol. I really didn't know what to expect.. I guess I was at least expecting people whose dogs could do a few basic commands..
We did some off leash commands, and she did so very well in an area with so many distractions, and people just stared as we went through stuff like sit, back, down, lay, return to heel..
April 10th, 2005, 01:25 PM
Hey, I'm knowledgeable!! I only go because I know dogs-- but if you don't understand body language or how to handle unruly doggies, I suggest only go when no one is there...
April 10th, 2005, 05:59 PM
I didn't have a problem with anyone's dogs.. I had a problem with the dogs peoples.....
April 10th, 2005, 06:08 PM
well this knowledgable owner goes to a dog park :p
but it is a different type of one, it is huge and used by about 4 or 5 dogs at the most and that is periodically, we dont all go at once. so generally there is that much space between one owner and the next that its not convienient to chat, although we all wave over the distance when we see each other.
i found that i n summer there is a group of older ppl who have tiny little dogs, and they always have their little social corner and whne you walk past 5 little yappers all attack at once, poor chzrlie hates going near them,, but that is fine with me, we would not have much in common so i dont want to talk to them, also im there to excersise my dog, not socialise. and we walk at 6am, i am realyl not chatty at that time.
when visiting the city dog parks with friends (would never in this life take charlie to one, only if we were driving past and she needed to pee or somehting). well those city parks are very snooty, they are your elite yuppie squad areas and you see all the dog owners with their mocha lattes chatting and smoking. i really really have no desire to ever have anythign to do with such people so i would not be at a loss.
if you jsut want to make a friend with a dog owner, find a nice owner and gentle dog, make friends and make later play dates and such. forget the crowd, and how daggy, do you really want anything to do with those sort of dog owners :yuck: blah yucky arrogant ppl, why bother :yuck:
April 11th, 2005, 10:56 AM
Just thought I'd share my *wonderfull* dog park experience.
When I was dog-sitting my fathers poch (Harry the Springer Spaniel) I decided I should bring him to the dog park because he needed to be socialized (he was 7 months old, and I was training him). The first time we went was awsome. Harry had the time of his life with a min-pin and a lab. I had never seen him so excited. So, needless to say, I went back the next day. Well, it wasn't quite as pleasurable.
First of all, I was trying to teach Harry not to jump up. So everytime he did it I would say down and praise him and give him a treat when all 4 paws hit the ground. Well, apparently alot of people thought I was training him the wrong way. I got alot of unwanted advice. One of the winners was 'when he jumps up, just punch him in the nose' ...nice, very nice...a runner up was 'when he jumps up, just pich his pads until he yelpes'. I was not impressed. :mad:
Besides the 'know-nothing-know-it-alls', there were a few seriously aggressive dogs there, including a 200 pound Rottie who growled and snarled at everything that moved. Then there was a husky, a very Husky who took a particular liking to Harry. I look over, and I thought the Husky was trying to mount Harry...at a closer look I realised that the dog was standing over poor little Harry PEEING ON HIM. :eek: I was horrified. I went up to the owner to tell her what her dog had done, and as she's explaining to me that it meant her dog liked mine, I started to feel a wet spot on my leg -- her Husky was PEEING ON ME!!!! :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: I was shocked. Apparently her dog liked me as much as he liked my dog. :yuck:
I've never been back to the park.
April 11th, 2005, 12:12 PM
Hmm, I haven't brought my puppy Diego to the local off-leash dog parks yet, but when I was babysitting a 10 months old Golden Retriever Oscar, we went regularly to the 2 off-leash parks in Ottawa, Conroy Pit and Bruce Pit, and I agree that some people are quite snooty. There always seems to be a small group of regulars who would occupy one corner close to the park entrance and chitchat while their dogs play. There were a couple of times that I tried to strike a conversation, but no one seemed to be interested at all. After that, we just came, walked and went.
April 11th, 2005, 12:59 PM
We went back yesterday.. I'm moving, and not sure another dog park will be as nice landwise..
A few better owners wanting to chat, lots of snooty people. And a few absolutly horrible dogs. One dog wouldn't leave cider alone. The dogs owner picked cider up and put her in my arms 'cause she'd be safe there'. So my dog can't play with the other 20, because your dog can't play nicely?
We played in the second area with water and lots of mud and had a better time, just, grrrr.
April 11th, 2005, 04:29 PM
mafiaprincess..its a shame that you've got crabby people at the park..but like I said, you probably won't be able to avoid it..they're everywhere lol.
Maybe you can do what I do..I like to go to empty school fields or baseball parks when nobody is there and run around with my dog...as for socialization..I really wouldn't worry about a dog park for that..alot of dogs actually get stressed in dog parks! You can go for a walk downtown or to a place where there's alot of different people and situations and socialize your dog that way...
:) good luck...and don't let em grumpy ones phase you! hehe