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Ca de Bou breed, does anyone own Ca de Bou

pollito
April 3rd, 2005, 04:41 PM
I just had a question if anyone one this board owns or owned a Ca de Bou dog. and
i was just wondering personal opinions about that breed?

Safyre
April 3rd, 2005, 07:36 PM
I have never heard of this breed, so I went ahead and googled it.
I found the following website www.moloss.com/brd/cd/c002/

Its not my type of dog, and i would be concerned that this breed would be lumped in along with the pit bull ban in ontario, due to the wording of the ban

(2) Section 1 of the Act is amended by adding the following definitions:

“pit bull” includes,

(a) a pit bull terrier,

(b) a Staffordshire bull terrier,

(c) an American Staffordshire terrier,

(d) an American pit bull terrier,

(e) a dog that has an appearance and physical characteristics that are substantially similar to those of dogs referred to in any of clauses (a) to (d); (“pit-bull”)

wondering if this dg would not fall under section "D" of the above.
I don't support the ban in the least, think its stupidity running loose, I just worry how far they are going to try to push it.

Lucky Rescue
April 3rd, 2005, 08:51 PM
Don't know much about this breed other than it's a fighting/bulldog/guard dog.

IF you want to discuss it, a good place to go is Molosser Talk (http://members.boardhost.com/MolosserTalk/)

Prin
April 4th, 2005, 12:22 AM
I was just looking around and I don't know where you expect to find one because all the breeders I see are overseas... Ka-ching!!! :) I agree with Safyre that this doggy can be seen as pit-bull-like but it only matters in Ontario...

pollito
April 4th, 2005, 08:37 AM
well if the dog is registered it would be much easier to prove that it is not a pitbull, but the problem is , I highly doubt that the papers would be recognnized here,another names I found for that breed were Ca De Bou (Mallorquin Bulldog, Dogo Mallorquin, Presa Mallorquin, Perro de Presa Mallorquin)...well it's a funny thing, I've never really heard of this breed, our friend was saying that a couple that she knows have this wonderful , adorable doggy, that looks a bit like my pitbull. so I asked her what kind of breed it was, she said it was some Mallorquin Bulldog, so I decided to do some research on the dog, and apparently not only it exists, but it is also recognized in some countries.


P.S. just a thought, maybe I could pass my pitty for a Ca De Bou lol, jk

Prin
April 4th, 2005, 04:05 PM
It doesn't matter because one of the clauses is (e) a dog that has an appearance and physical characteristics that are substantially similar to those of dogs referred to in any of clauses (a) to (d); (“pit-bull”)
So if your dog looks like a pitty, for purposes of the ban, it is a pitty, even if it isn't.

presatierra
April 11th, 2005, 04:42 PM
Hi, i am a owner and breeder of ca de bous. I can honestly say they dont look pitt. For starters they are loads bigger more like american bulldog size, 30-40kg. There heads are big. The ones from spain are very friendly.
There muzzle is like that of a bear.
They are registered with the FCI, the biggest canine organisation in the world with over 70 countries being members, so the breed is known in all of europe (apart from UK but recognised in Ireland(fci)), central, south america etc... It has been recognised by the FCi since 1964 by the spanissh kennel club 1932. For more history, you can read it on my site.
It is one of the rarest breeds.

pollito
April 11th, 2005, 05:33 PM
wow, thank you for the information presatierra, I would really love to see your website, by the pictures, I thought they were a bit smaller than pits, apparentley not. How are they temperament wise, friendlyy, protective, aggressive?

presatierra
April 13th, 2005, 06:13 AM
There temperament is like that of most mastiff breeds. Very loyal and loving with their family and wary of strangers entering the house. Outside with the public, nice and friendly. Naturally, you want to socialise your pet.
my site is www.cadebou.co.uk
Here is a foto of one of my females at 11 months in Spain.
Surely this breed is exempt from Ontarios laws as it has a pedigree?

pollito
April 13th, 2005, 08:30 AM
thank you for the info, I looked at some of your pictures and the standards, and they do differ from those of a pitbull

Safyre
April 13th, 2005, 09:48 AM
The problem is that it doesn't have to look exactley like a pit bull to get banned with the wording the way it is.
http://www.pitbullsontheweb.com/petbull/findpit.html

There is only one true pit bull on that website.
But there are 20 or so others that will get lumped into the ban if it goes through.
If you do even remotely has the look of a pit, its gonna get named a pit.
Just get it before the by law goes through.

presatierra
April 13th, 2005, 03:09 PM
The ca de bou or other molosser breeds would never fall into the category E. For the simple size reason and the fact that these breeds are terriers not mastiffs.
Americna staff/pittbull or english staff have there own look and weigh from 10kg to 25kg.
I went to that site and spotted the pitt straight away.
If a police man doesnt believe you, you show him the pedigree which also has either the tatoo numb or microship numb. Remember these breeds get banned cos of there temperament unlike mastiff breeds that are big game hunters and guard dogs unlike terriers.
Pittbulls have been banned in the UK for 14 years, no one remembers what they look like now, even if you had one.