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More Free to Good Home Cautionary Tales

CyberKitten
March 18th, 2005, 06:11 PM
Every week you see them in the ads. section of the papers "free kittens to good homes". The following tale is a warning to everyone who puts these ads in the papers for kittens, pups and dogs.The ad said "free kittens to good homes" and a telephone number. Over the next few days several people called to see and collect the kittens. As each person left, the woman said to the person "you make sure it gets a good home, I am fond of it".The first kitten to leave was a ginger female. Her four year old owner loved her to bits, but she accidentally injured the kitten's shoulder picking her up the wrong way. The child could not be blamed - nobody showed her the correct way to pick up a kitten. She named the kitten 'Ginger', but was very upset a few weeks later when her brother's friends "sat on it".The next to go was the white male with blue eyes, The person who took him named him 'Snowy'. Sadly, 'Snowy' never learned his name and as the new owner paid little attention to him, never realised he was deaf. His first adventure out of doors ended in disaster - he never heard the car.The next to go was a grey and white female who went to live in a neighbour's farm, and like her mother she was a mouser. Unlike her brother and sister she wasn't even given a name, but fell ill after repeat pregnancies, and died, leaving a new born litter.The last 2 kittens went to a pretty woman who wanted the two so they could remain together for life. She later sold them to a laboratory for Euro10 each. They are together as she promised - in a jar of alcohol.All the kittens arrived in heaven at the same time. They all played together, licked each other in delight and then together passed through the gates, passing a sign in big gold letters "YOU ARE FINALLY FREE KITTENS".The moral to this tale is: never hand over a kitten or any animal without checking where it is going. Never give it away free - take a donation and give it to a charity of your choice if you wish, and always get a name and address and follow up where they went. Other wise they could end up like any of the kittens above.

thank you
M. O'Sullivan (sec/pro)
galway spca

Trinitie
March 18th, 2005, 06:32 PM
A very sad, but true, reminder of what can actually happen to "free" animals.

A worthwhile read for ALL who think giving away animals is ok.

Derek & Jeter
July 11th, 2005, 12:21 AM
The moral to this tale is: never hand over a kitten or any animal without checking where it is going. Never give it away free - take a donation and give it to a charity of your choice if you wish, and always get a name and address and follow up where they went. Other wise they could end up like any of the kittens above.

thank you
M. O'Sullivan (sec/pro)
galway spca

I just saw a free to good home ad at freecycleTO - a yahoo group, and was going to redirect the person here (this thread, because I noticed it before but had no urgent need to read it.

But, there's not enough advice on screening prospective pet owners IMO. Since this is a sticky thread can those in the know, please give advice.
Besides asking for a donation, shouldn't you ask them:

1. Did they try to adopt at Toronto Humane Society, if so, why not that route?

2. Ask for the name of their veterinarian. [Is there a list of trustworthy vets somewhere?]

3. Are they willing to sign a witnessed (legal?) letter giving you the right to visit once or twice at least, any time in the next two years.

Maybe a reputable Cat rescue takes these "free" cats.

If this is somewhere else on the site, shouldn't there be a link to it here.

Just my very humble "newbie" opinion. :confused: :o

mafiaprincess
July 11th, 2005, 12:51 AM
That's because this is the 'general forum'.

Go to the forum titled "pets for adoption"

The stickys titled can we help you keep your dog and free to a good home are in detail.

CyberKitten
July 11th, 2005, 01:17 AM
It's my understanding that there are numerous explanations elsewhere on this Board. I am sure if you do a search, you will find it. I posted this as merely an adjunct to advice provided by people much more experienced than I in finding homes for needy critters.

Derek & Jeter
July 11th, 2005, 01:29 AM
Sorry Cyberkitten, thanks to you and Mafiaprincess for the help.

I got scissors below my post again? I'm almost scared to ask why. Does that mean my post is redundant and wasting space or etc. Just tell me to and I'll delete it. :confused:

mafiaprincess
July 11th, 2005, 02:22 AM
Don't worry. It's all good. Just browse various sections and you may fins info more tailored to your needs in stickies.

scissors? I'm not sure what you are talking about..

Your post isn't un needed, just there is probably a lot of the info you are asking about elsewhere already.. don't delete it, just move on.

If you browse and still don't find what you are searching for just start a new thread about it. :love:

Derek & Jeter
July 11th, 2005, 03:53 AM
I found the thread and e-mailed the page plus a personal e-mail, with a link to Project Jessie and Pound Seizures, for another reason. She must have been informed already (about the danger) since the ad was posted at 6:30 this evening.
.................................................. ..............................................
From: .........@yahoo.com>
Date: Sun Jul 10, 2005 6:28 pm
Subject: taken- one cute kittie...still one to go! ...betty...
Send IM
Send Email

I still have a little black ball of fuzz, female, 8 weeks old. Purrs,
snuggles and is litter box trained.
Do you have a good home to offer her?
BB................................................ ..............................................
I'll be removing that e-mail address in half an hour. I'm putting it here because she has Yahoo IM and I don't, and the symbol says she's online, now.
I request read receipts for all e-mails and didn't get one from her. Don't know exactly how IM's work - she's probably asleep - but if someone wan'ts to IM her the address is there. She might be a shift worker??

This is the rule regarding advertising free pets - it's in a file called "Files".

8) CAN WE USE FREECYCLE TO FIND NEW HOMES FOR PETS? Yes, keep it legal & be lovingly careful. Please visit http://www.petfinder.com/ to look up many other pet-related resources.

Below that is text file called "pet adoption" with a lot of very good links but, there are some for Toronto Animal Services. They're probably on the the OSPCA's good list, but I'm going to investigate tomorrow.

About the scissors over the Edit button - that may be from the time I tried to edit, clicked select all /delete, keyed half of it back in, added I don't know how to Delete, opened a new window looking for something to do with the post, went back to first page and clicked on submit and then got a BIG ERROR message to contact tech support or something like that. :angel:

:) :pawprint:

Derek & Jeter
July 13th, 2005, 04:48 AM
...with the free kitten lady. She posted last:


Message: 4
Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2005 16:01:04 -0000
From: "...betty..." <...betty...@yahoo.ca>

Subject: taken- kittens- to qualified homes

Thanks to all for your offers and concerns. The kittens have found
loving homes.
BB

Now there's another one. Sent him/her the introduction and link too LuckyRescue's thread also. Since I belong to 4 freecycle GTA groups I think I'll start scanning them everyday, but I won't bore you with a "daily report". :D

Ford
July 13th, 2005, 01:38 PM
I got scissors below my post again? I'm almost scared to ask why. Does that mean my post is redundant and wasting space or etc. Just tell me to and I'll delete it. :confused:

Hi Derek & Jeter, and Welcome to the board!

I believe the scissors you're referring to are for the "edit" button. Take a look and you should see the word edit there. If you make a spelling mistake, you can use that to correct it, or if there is anything you want to add or delete from your post.

CyberKitten
July 13th, 2005, 09:11 PM
Welcome to the Boatrd!! It is NEVER a waste of space to remind people of these issues!! So nothing is redunadant - I am afraid my post was a little short (in a perpetual hurry of late it seems) and all I meant was that the info is available on the site if you want to search for it. But by all means, please share any ideas and info you have. Even if some of us may have read it or similar material, it does not mean everyone has nor does it mean that those of us who my have read it cannot use a refresher!!

Derek & Jeter
July 16th, 2005, 01:13 PM
I'm glad you that your post is the main discussion area. I didn't know about ANY of the dangers of "free to good home" ads. I happened to read about pound seizures a few days before I registered here and learned the other dangers at this website.

Seems there are others who don't know also, and even one is too many, when there's a helpless little pet involved.

:highfive:

Natasha Hartman
December 11th, 2005, 02:22 PM
I'm sorry to ask ,but how do you know what happened to these animals?? how did you find out each story?

The_Zoo
December 13th, 2005, 07:18 PM
Im am an Owner and Moderator for Winchester Freecycle and yes we my members are allowed to post when they are either looking for a free pet or giving away a pet..No posting are allowed for breeding purposes .everything must be legal,Recenlty I have come upon in our cafe site someone looking to get rid of the strays 1 female and her kitten..I have offered to take them in and foster them until i find a new home for them I am not apart of any resuce group.and will have no finicial help..these cats need a good once over..I thank you for your post as I am a alot more wearing when it comes time for me to look for new homes for the cats.And you can be assured i will not say FREE TO A GOOD HOME!
thanks for the eye opener!
Cheers
Steph

Prin
December 13th, 2005, 11:52 PM
Yey! Thanks for learning something... :thumbs up I'm sure many people have read this thread and have not gained anything from it...:( Any way we can help the furries is a good thing. :)

CyberKitten
December 14th, 2005, 02:30 AM
Thank you so much Steph - I am so glad to hear you helped these kitties!!!!! So many ppl do not know of the free to good home dangers. My bf sometimes tells me I am going to get told off since on the w/e, I will take the newspaper (when pets are usually advertised) and call those offering pets "free" and tell them why this is a bad idea. I have had every reaction - from "you nosy no good b****" to' "thank you, I never knew that" to "Oh my God, a nice man just came and took all of our 5 lovely kittens. No, he did not give us his name but he a=said they were all so cute he could not resist". In that case, the person kived not far from my firefighter brother and he gave the description to a police friend and they knew one of the local bunchers - bouchers (ppl,mosyly guys who get :free" pets to sell them to approved agents of Agriculture Canada or universities (sighhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!! - ours no longer uses animals but once upon a time, they actually did experiments that included the sewing shut of the eyes of young kittens. They all prefer pets from families since they are well socialized and are friendly - wag their tails at the researchers, makes one want to cry, I have to tell you of my involvement in ending those kitten experiments one of these days - it was pretty stressful tho hardly as bad as it had been for those very unlucky kittens. Most of it I cannot print here but some ppl lost their jobs since the research - useless as it was was actually funded by tax money, yours and mine!! I am ashamed of the history of my own school - tho I did not study there but I do work there. At least it is no longer done but my Gawd, what hell! ) Anyway, my brother and said police friend and another police friend for good measure - brother plays hockey with the police and firefighter team - went to this guys's home (in the event it was him, sounded like him - and they found not 5, not 10 but SEVENTEEN little kittens and FIVE cats all in c=wire cages that hurt their little paws - tho many universities and even Iams and other pet food researchers use those too. He was not a certified agent - just going to sell them to one so they called a vet friend of mine - actually, one of my best friends is married to a vet and she used to be the office manager and they took all the cats (since the SPCA may have well you know....). Homes were found for all but one cat who was ill and stayed at the vet for a long time and eventually went to the Bridge. These were not the kittens in question however!!!!!!! So, they asked around to check out other bunchers in the area. One not from the city - from Moncton (an hr and a half away) fir the profile so police from there, another hockey and school friend of my brother's (interesting side story -this kid once found one of our cats when he managed to find hi way into my mom's car ion her way to school where she was Principal and he adopted it, thinking the little kitty was lost and a stray). An enterprising reporter (active in dog rescue) I know took a picture of him and the cat in a cat show about 2 weeks after (we were still looking everywhere for this cat who usually never went outside) and lo and behold, there he was in the paper!! We called and went to get the cat but gave the child the reward money we had placed on our signs (this was a LOMNG time ago). Anyway, now this kid is a police officer married to a surgeon friend of ours and he went and the man had 4 kittens matching the descriptions - no certificate as an agent of Agriculture Canada or Health Canada, and not a breeder tho he tried to say he had a mama cat that just gave birth and she had run away but the family had taken pictures., This was pre internet days the dad and my brother and police friend drove the 1 1/2 hr drive with photos to prove these were indeed the kittens. A hair raising day for cats and kittens but OMG, I do not let too many "free to good home" ads go by me if I can help it - I also enlist the help of friends and sometimes, during kitten season, we make a Sat AM of it, calling each ad. We are not always as successful; as that story but that is the most inspiring of our stories,

I wish I had more like that but I have also too many where the kittens were long gone and the family was only too happy to see them out the door, no thanks and get off my phone line.

But I keep the inspiring story in my head!

lma1524
December 14th, 2005, 12:51 PM
Every week you see them in the ads. section of the papers "free kittens to good homes". The following tale is a warning to everyone who puts these ads in the papers for kittens, pups and dogs.The ad said "free kittens to good homes" and a telephone number. Over the next few days several people called to see and collect the kittens. As each person left, the woman said to the person "you make sure it gets a good home, I am fond of it".The first kitten to leave was a ginger female. Her four year old owner loved her to bits, but she accidentally injured the kitten's shoulder picking her up the wrong way. The child could not be blamed - nobody showed her the correct way to pick up a kitten. She named the kitten 'Ginger', but was very upset a few weeks later when her brother's friends "sat on it".The next to go was the white male with blue eyes, The person who took him named him 'Snowy'. Sadly, 'Snowy' never learned his name and as the new owner paid little attention to him, never realised he was deaf. His first adventure out of doors ended in disaster - he never heard the car.The next to go was a grey and white female who went to live in a neighbour's farm, and like her mother she was a mouser. Unlike her brother and sister she wasn't even given a name, but fell ill after repeat pregnancies, and died, leaving a new born litter.The last 2 kittens went to a pretty woman who wanted the two so they could remain together for life. She later sold them to a laboratory for Euro10 each. They are together as she promised - in a jar of alcohol.All the kittens arrived in heaven at the same time. They all played together, licked each other in delight and then together passed through the gates, passing a sign in big gold letters "YOU ARE FINALLY FREE KITTENS".The moral to this tale is: never hand over a kitten or any animal without checking where it is going. Never give it away free - take a donation and give it to a charity of your choice if you wish, and always get a name and address and follow up where they went. Other wise they could end up like any of the kittens above.

thank you
M. O'Sullivan (sec/pro)
galway spca

Hi there:

I post for many rescue groups and write and call anyone I see advertising an animal free to good home.

There are so many websites people can go to via their search engine on the internet where some stories are horrendous. Free bait for training fight dogs, free snake food, free etchnic food, free animal broker $'s to sell on to research, free to be sold onto puppy or cat mills and bred to death. If everyone who knew would get the message across, each paper that advertises post a warning above pets for sale ads perhaps we'd educate these people. I have had people write to me in the most horrible way saying I should mind my own business but animal welfare is my business. God Bless you for having the courage to tell it like it is. Linda Animal Lover and Rescue Pet Owner, Toronto

The_Zoo
December 14th, 2005, 02:07 PM
Hi
Well I have no Idea what happened to the cats All I know is that they have gone to a tempory home!I caint get them out of my mind.so ill have to track them..I also sent them a new link so that there is no excuse for just ltting the animails go free..I sent the Pet Resource link for all of Canada!I also rminded them that Winter is not just hard on us but for our Outside critters too.Um Cyber where you from Im orginally From Chatham New Brunswick!
Cheers
Stepheny

tucker
March 13th, 2006, 08:49 AM
Last year I was given a very sweet but untrained purebred dog. He was in awful shape- obviously badly neglected and abused. He was given to me through "a person that knew a person." I did find that 'person' and reported them, then set about giving this dog the TLC he deserved. Months later he was growing back fur, putting on weight and learning to go to the washroom outside. I then started looking for a good full time family for him. I made the mistake of making him 'free to a good home' and a list of wacko's started calling. I insisted on interviewing those that made it through the first round- only to discover that people were giving me wrong numbers, lying about their living situations, and one woman even came at night insisting that I give him to her right then- never even attempting to bond with him first. We hung on knowing that the right family was out there. A month later a great aunt came for an afternoon visit and without even knowing our boy was available- they fell in love and it was a very happy ending for all. Thank goodness I did not let him go with just anyone. It was really an eye opener for us.

Prin
March 13th, 2006, 11:29 AM
That's pretty scary. You're a wonderful pet owner to be so stringent with your choice.:thumbs up

JessXx
May 19th, 2006, 06:13 PM
I think this is a true reminder of what can happen to many people if they give their pets away...
When I was younger we used to give away or sell animals to people, but we owned a farm and needed to get rid of the animals... but now I have my wonderful babies and wouldn't trade them for the world....

Pokittles
October 12th, 2006, 09:57 AM
i got my cat from a "free to a good home" ad in the paper. my boyfriend and i really wanted a kitten. we went to the humane society first but they only had older cats with special needs. since i already had a cat who had her own needs, we decided a kitten would be the best mate for her. i must say i was shocked when i went to this person's house. The kitten i was getting was the last one left. i was expecting to be asked a bunch of questions about myself and my living situation...i wasn't. the lady handed me the cat, no questions asked. when i asked her questions about the cat and tryed to get some history she just looked at me. you could tell these people could of cared less on who was taking the cat. This really upset me but i knew this cat would be getting a really great home and that he did!
People who advertise "free to a good home" need to make sure of that. Ask as many questions as you'd like. If you have a bad feeling about someone, don't do it. I don't know how people can just give away animals to just anyone off the street. i guess i'll never understand...

Nizumi
November 22nd, 2006, 02:41 PM
The first real issue is NEUTER your pets. If you're not a breeder, your pet shouldn't be breeding. But I'm probably preaching to the choir on this point.

Secondly, instead of giving the kittens away by newspaper ad or notice at the grocery store, why not give them to a human society yourself? (This is where I get flamed, I know it!) :o

What I mean by this is: Oh, how to find the words..... Seriously, if you could see my face, it's all screwed up with concern. 'cos I really do understand what a prickly point this is... OK - First - the SPCA keeps records and can run checks on people coming to adopt animals. Second - after having to put down my own beloved cat as well as a stray that latched on to me (whoa! both cats were sick. Seen to by, not one, but three vets), and after finding a litter of kittens that had been abandonned in a box by the side of the road (only one of the five survived - the other four were already dead), I came to the conclusion that it's far better for an animal to be humanely put down than to be abandonned; killed or mortally injured by youngsters not knowing how to handle animals; living the horrible existence of stray animals on the street.

Meaning no offense - and girding myself for the fury -

PS: If you still want to give kittens away by notice, ask your local vet if you could put a sign up ay the clinic. After all, the only people who actually go see vets are people who care about animals, right?

Prin
November 22nd, 2006, 02:44 PM
If you're not breeding to better the breed by only breeding health tested, genetically proven, shown animals, you shouldn't be breeding.I fixed it to my liking..;)

TaraJeanne
December 4th, 2006, 11:04 AM
we got my Lady bug from a free to a good home add and we were very impressed by the owners desire to make sure she was safe in her new home they answered all of our questions and gave us as much history as they could aswell as they in turn have come to visit us quite a few times over the last past year we have had her .. but when we adopted lady Brenna it was very distressing that it was only a matter of placing a phone call and going to pick her up they asked us no questions or asked to come and check up on her or to see our home I agree that free to a good home can be dangerous if the interview isnt conducted properly or at all. but in LadyBugs case they took all the proper measures and saw and made sure to her well being. I think that if your a dedicated pet owner you will take all the steps necessary to ensure the saftey of your pets or their offspring .. I mean if you love your cat you should love her kittens. they are her offspring and if she had a say in what homes were okay then they would all go to a good home i think its all about the interviewing process and foolow up always make a follow up I gave LadyBugs previous owners my phone number and adress right away so they can always call and come and see her and they came and checke dout our home i think if everyone did that all animals would go to safe warm loving enviroments and that would make all of our fuzzy friends happier ..

Daisy2943
January 6th, 2007, 04:18 AM
Heres a free ad which i though was awesome:
Up for adoption are 2 wonderful cats. They are both completely black, with shiny short hair coats. They are approximately 6 years old, and have been indoor cats their entire lives. Both consistently use their litter box. They are both healthy, have their shots, and have had periodic visits to the vet. They are both fixed and both are declawed (front paws). They are brother and sister, and we are looking for a home that will accept them both, as we do not want to separate them. These cats are pretty calm, but yet will play with you and each other well. They are snuggly, and will sit on your lap and cuddle. We would prefer they go to a home that currently has no other cats or dogs. They are free to a good home, and included with the adoption of the cats comes their litter boxes, any remaining kitty litter that we have, their food bowls, any remaining food that we have and their travel carrier. Finally, we would like to see some sort of proof of a loving home environment and good intentions from the adoptive family. We love these cats very much, but with full time work and a growing family, we aren't able to give them the attention that they deserve. Please consider making them part of your family.

Prin
January 6th, 2007, 12:17 PM
Why is that awesome? :confused:

cpietra16
January 6th, 2007, 12:54 PM
Maybe because they ask to see "proof of a loving home environment"...they obviously don't know how a criminal mind works...who knows if the house they see is the house where the cats will live:sad: ...there are very evil
people out there..."always ask for an adoption fee"

Prin
January 6th, 2007, 12:57 PM
Anybody can fake proof and then disappear.:shrug:

Edgewaters
April 1st, 2007, 01:10 PM
I'm not certain what difference asking for a donation is going to make. It might just invite the kind of people who think of pets as a possession.

I'll grant that it will probably keep away the ones who want to sell animals for research. But it won't do much, probably not anything, to prevent them from ending up in abusive homes.

I'm actually suspicious of ads that list a price for pups kittens or other animals looking for a new home - how do you know you're not dealing with some unregulated small time breeder?

CyberKitten
April 2nd, 2007, 12:25 AM
My only comment on the last observations is that many humane societies keep pets for 72 hrs and then kill them so that is not such a hot option in many parts of North America - it depends where you live. (But most humane societies will not take cats or dogs that are bred at home, they only will take rescued animals. And I don't believe ppl should show up and lie and say they found 6 kittens by the side of the road!)

Most of these ppl are byb - even if some of them occur because it was not meant to be. I do not include people like Frenchy who certainly did not plan on a litter of 6 puppies but those who did not bother to spay or neuter their pet and then voila, she has babies! That is their responsibility to find good homes and free kittens means you are saying these babies have no value to you and you are opening your world to bunchers who will sell them to labs, people seeking snake food and other nefarious sorts. And I am very serious - this does happen!!!! Sadly!!!! Bunching is a big business and the free to good homes allow several ner do wells and bad people to live off the stupidity for want of a better word of these back yard breeders!

I could go on but there is so much documented research out there, I'll let you read on and find it.

Prin
April 2nd, 2007, 12:38 AM
Yeah, the no puppymills Canada site says that in the US more than 2/3 of the dogs out there are from bybs, not puppymills. We think puppymills are the worst (and the conditions are horrendous in them, no doubt about that), but they're actually not producing as many dogs as the bybs. Sad, eh?

http://www.nopuppymillscanada.ca/back_yard_breeders.htm

Jim Hall
July 6th, 2007, 08:38 AM
I had inherited a cat when i moveed into my new apartment
Unfortunatly Gimpy ( so Named cause she was missing a back leg}
suffered a heart attack . My girlfriend insisted I find another so I contacted the rescue orginasations in my area .

At first I was ticke off cause of all the questions they asked until one sympathitic worker told me of all the horror stories.
I dont understand people sometimes.

anyway if you ask for money ( my new cat down under cost me$200 US after fees and vet visit}]
The chances are that whoever ponies up that kind of money will be interested in keeping thier investment healthy.

dudabug
July 9th, 2007, 12:32 AM
I can relate to the free pet ads. I ran one! Stupid Stupid thing to do!!!!!! In November 06, a family who lived across the street from my mother moved and left a mother cat and 4 kittens. Well, I started feeding them and naturally they started hanging out at moms. After a couple of weeks, I decided to try and find them a good home. I had 3 cats myself and didnt want to take in anymore (mistake). So I asked my vet for any ideas. They said run a "free to good home" ad. So I did. I received several calls and met w/ most of them. I turned down the 1st few.. just didnt feel any vibes. Well to make a long story longer, I finally met a husband and wife who were animal lovers and really seemed like good people. She wanted 2 of the kittens. She picked a lil black and white who we named Patches and a lil calico with one blue eye and one green eye who we named Sasha. She was my favorite. We thought everything was fine so couple of days later I thought I'd call to see how they were adjusting and found out that the second they got home both kittens escaped !! They said they kept food out for them hoping they would come back. I spend the next several days driving up and down their street with my arm hanging out the window shaking a box of food but with no luck. I felt like crap. I thought I was doing the right thing. But NOT! Needless to say ..I didnt take anymore calls for the other 2 kittens, they are now part of the family. I just hope Patches and Sasha made it ok.:fingerscr :fingerscr

phoozles
November 2nd, 2007, 05:02 PM
The Freecycle Org here in Chatham Ontario does not allow pets to be offered on the site, which I think is very commendable, considering most other freecycles do.

I adopted my kitten Alley from a rescue shelter (www.kittenaideprogram.com) and expected to be bombarded with questions. But nothing - she didn't ask me a thing about my household - just asked me to sign a sheet and hand over $25.. I would have thought they would have had a better screening process than that. Plus they got the sex of my kitten wrong and she came home with a cold that she gave my other cat, but that's besides the point.

It wouldn't stop me from adopting again, however.

gatorsmom
November 22nd, 2007, 01:57 AM
that animals are not toys, that they have feelings and minds, and all they want is to be loved. People need to check out the people that are wanting the kittens, puppies, etc. Why do so many people think animals are expendable? They need to stop using animals in lab testing, instead use the people on deathrow. We have to pay for them anyways might as well put them to good use.

Love4himies
November 22nd, 2007, 06:16 AM
They need to stop using animals in lab testing, instead use the people on deathrow. We have to pay for them anyways might as well put them to good use.

Ha ha, Canada doesn't have deathrow, but I do like your idea. We do have violent criminals that should be giving back to society, maybe this is a "good citizenship" way of doing it.

lillibou
June 3rd, 2008, 04:06 PM
I've responded to one of those ads b/c the gal who was given the 3-4 wk old kitten had no idea how to care for it(we're not sure of she is a she or a he--the jury is still out). If we hadn't, the kitten would've died due to her ignorance(the food she gave it made its feces hard as a rock and our vet had to give it an enema to clear it out). In fact, we've been given all our cats. But then again, I did volunteer work for a vet and we have a family vet. We also make sure any cat or dog we take in gets spayed or neutered by 6 months. Its a shame others don't care for animals the way we do.

Bushfire2000
July 4th, 2008, 05:45 PM
So I know this woman who wants to find a new home for her dog. She offered the little dog to me but my husband said "4 dogs are enough. There's no way you can bring home another one."

So I've been trying to help her find it a new home. One of the things I've been trying to get through her head is the "Free to good home" tragedies. She thinks that by not asking for any money that she'll find it a good home. I've tried to tell her that at least if they pay something for the dog "Faith" they will start out valuing her more than if she didn't ask anything at all for her. There's an Auction saying "The more you pay the more it's worth." and I think in most cases this is the truth.

I don't think I can get this woman to listen to me. I've printed off all the stories and tried to scare her but short of taking the dog myself (and getting a divorce) I can't help Faith.

yettiyodamarlo
July 11th, 2008, 01:06 AM
Thank you CyberKitten for the post.

I never even gave much thought to 'free to good home' ads.
I thought it was nice of them to offer them free, but now I can clearly see why that is NOT a good idea in any circumstance, and I finally REALIZE why the shelter I volunteer at charges high fees (apart from vacine costs.).

Anyways, thanks for the eye-opener!

:pawprint:

IluvZeus
October 15th, 2008, 08:42 AM
It is so sad to see that some people would be so callous towards another living being. We got Zeus for a pittance really, $40 bucks. However with vaccinations, vet costs and an unfortunate incident last week that resulted in him having to get his upper lip sutured (along with an overnight stay) It's come to considerably more than that. And I would pay whatever cost needs to be paid to keep him the healthy, happy 'little guy' he is. I guess my point would be that in some circumstances, people would rather give him away than pay the money to keep him until he/she's adopted. It's not always the best of circumstances, but it can be rewarding and good if a lot of research and information is had on both sides.

kathryn
December 8th, 2008, 10:00 AM
A man in North Jersey was recently arrested and sentenced for the torture and killing of ATLEAST 19 cats/kittens he acquired from 'free to good home' ads.

http://www.pet-abuse.com/cases/12844/NJ/US/



Appolonia, 50, of Aberdeen is alleged to have tortured and killed 19 cats given to him by animal rescuers when he answered their newspaper ads offering the felines for free to a good home.



In what police termed a chilling videotaped statement, Appolonia told Amato he would play with the kittens for a while, and then something would happen, Amato said. The cat would hiss at him, maybe scratch him. At that point, Appolonia would "throw the cat, beat, punch and break its bones. He would let it live for a little while, in some cases a day, in tremendous pain, and then drown it," Amato said.

Kittens would be drowned in the toilet bowl, larger cats in the bathtub, he said.



Yet people still don't believe us when we tell them free to good home ads are a bad idea :frustrated:

bluebear
December 11th, 2008, 06:00 PM
I would just like to say free or 1500.00 it doesn't matter. My first 2 dogs were free and had great homes.

I just lost my 12+ year old dog and had decided to not get another as I still have blue. Then the neighbour brought over a great pyr. She was dirty scared and not socialized or brought inside. He thought she belong to us. The people paid 400.00 for her and just left her outside to die. The neighbour got tired of her barking and chewing the rope and coming to his house that he came back 10 day's later and asked if we would take her but there was one catch she was 400.00. I have never paid 400.00 for a dog as there are so many for free that I can have and take care of and give a warm loving home to.

Even though she is white and lots of hair. This is not the kind of dog I would have gotten or wanted. Yet I said yes. I remembered what she looked like and I just couldn't let her die like that. She had already at 14 weeks old, stones forming in her urine and lots of white blood cells and still has them by the way. She will have to go through heat before I have more test done and before I can have her spayed. I have paid more on vet bills for her than I paid for her and this is one reason why I feel free is not a bad thing. Vets are a lot of money and dogs need care. Whether you pay or not it all depends on the person not the price.

Personally I truly believe that if you have them sign a paper that you can come and see the animal later and they hum and huh over it. That is not the person you want to sell or give your animal away to. It's also good if they have one already and you can see it.

I have read that story before and it breaks my heart that animals are not taken care of and abused.

Also I will add something cool. Blue, Dakota and I seen a cougar this morning. It was cutting across the property. I shined a big light in it's eyes and they just shined big. It was beautiful.

Zarathustra
April 4th, 2009, 10:20 PM
Wow, those are some pretty scary horror stories...

On the opposite side of the fence, let me tell you about what happened when we responded to a 'Free To Go Home' advertisement...

Sway, our German Shorthaired Pointer, was living on a large property with a family of two adults, two children, another dog, several sheep and a goat. Sway was in heaven there, loved it entirely.

However, her owner could not keep her. We responded to the advertisement and took her right there and then... well, we had to wait until Wenesday, but my point is we took her, she is adorable, and was then especially.

From the two week mark, our troubles started. Peeing in the house. Every night. Not just accidental, but deliberate. Time moved on, we pulled our hair out trying to figure out how to stop her. Rarely, she'd have phases where we'd go a few weeks with no pee... and then it would start up again.

We eventually moved to a house with a much larger yard, thinking this was part of the problem. Oh, no. Sway started peeing and... you get the idea, in the house. Every night.

Sway was also rather disobedient at first, very, very skitterish. Flinched whenver we went to touch her. At one time, we thought she'd been abused.

Now, we were told she was being given up because the woman who owned her, her mother was dying and was coming to live with her and she couldn't cope with everything else. I wondered if she was going to give her kids up at one point. We still don't know whether or not that was the real reason Sway was given up.

But let me tell you, that first year, there were many, many times we almost gave up. We'd gotten ourselves into a situation we'd never, ever anticipated.

With perserverance, however, Sway is now a fantastic dog. We have another dog, Tilly, and the two of them are best mates. We go to the park daily, feed them a 100% raw diet and Sway just gets better and better each day. It almost seems like it was an overnight transformation, but I still think it was every single day of the past year that my partner and I put into her progress that sees her where she is today.

I guess my point is, for those of you who have replied to a 'FTGH' advertisement and wound up with what you think is a little devil, have hope!

:candle:

sirilucky
April 8th, 2009, 06:22 AM
Thats a very sad touching story in simple words. Sometimes i think if pets could talk aloud!!!

sandyrivers
June 7th, 2009, 11:48 PM
Hi
I take care of several feral cats, most of them are fertile males and females...
A lot of them are abandonned by their owners, who move away, leaving them behind...
A lot of them are born (in the alley),to those who were abandonned by their owners...
A lot of them are kittens that people taught...''my cat is cute, and i want her to have kittens like her...''

I live on the island of Montreal, and I would LOVE to see a free spay/neuter clinic in my area.
I would have several cats to bring over!

It's sad to see that people will adopt a pet, and not consider that spay/neuter is a MUST with every adoption...

I contacted several universities in my area, in the hope that graduating vet students would give of their time and knowledge to host free spay/neuter days... Unfortunatly so far to no avail...

I challenge any vet students to offer such a service, in any city they are in!

Sandyrivers

Equla
November 17th, 2009, 03:45 PM
I am a volunteer at the Nevada SPCA in Las Vegas. Not all shelters euthanize. We don't. Unfortunately, that means that there is a lot of overcrowding and unfortunately, we have to turn away many people who want to leave their pets with us.

What I would suggest is to foster the kittens for the shelter you are working with. The foster parents that work with my shelter care for the kittens during the week and then bring them to adoption events on the weekends. It really makes it very easy for the shelter to say yes to helping you without putting too much strain on them to house a litter when they are probably over-run already.

In the end, they are more likely to go to a good home because of the background checks the shelter does. For instance, if the owner has ever surrendered an animal, they are banned from adopting an animal from my shelter. I've also seen the adoption councilors call landlords and such to ensure the animal is even allowed at the property. On top of all of that, there is an adoption fee for any and all animals that leave the shelter.

Huge added bonus... the shelter I work for also spays/neuters and updates all shots and the animal is given a clean bill of health. They won't adopt out kittens that are too young to be spayed/neutered.

Unfortunately, there are many kill shelters in every city in the world. The bright side is there is usually a no-kill shelter floating around somewhere too. Aside from the "specialty" shelters that deal with specific breeds (and there are a lot around me), there are (off the top of my head) 4 no-kill shelters and only one (sadly) high-kill shelter. You just have to do your research and look around. Find the ones that will keep an animal to the bitter end no matter what. :angel2: