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For the love of God please help with the pyshco cat!!!

Britishvixen21
March 8th, 2005, 02:33 PM
Please help me with Mya, weve had Mya now for 4 months and shes still no better. we had her fixed and shes still the little pyscho that she was before. shes still very aggressive. Shel come to you and want attention but as soon as you pick her up for a cuddle shes hissing spitting and growling at you. so we stopped picking her up and just petted her from arms length so then shel sit there but as soon as you touch the wrong bit shes scractching and biting! She is soooo destrcutive its unbelievable. she is chewing through everything. she has clawed all the underneath of my bed its now wrecked, shes chewed through all my cell phone charger wires, all my phone wires and most of the computer wires!!! she has as many toys as i have socks and a full range which we try and keep her entertained with. For instance i bought her the ball on the end of the rope she loved it for the rope which she chewed right through and broke. she got all teh shoe laces in the house and now shes started on the toilet roll! I went to a pet store last week and they recomended tabasco sauce on the wires it seems to have worked a little but i cnt go putting tobasco sauce on my shoes and hairbands.
Ive tried with the no thing. Ive tried putting the palm of my hand in her face and saying no. with a gentle but firm voice. ive tried clicking my fingers she just looks at me as if to say "**** you!" The trouble is im not at home during the day so i cant be telling her off 5 hours after shes done the deed she doesnt know waht im talking about or she doesnt care!! All i know is that im getting to my wits end with her, shes driving me crazy! We pay her lots of attention and ive got her into a good routine i give her treats when shes good and im trying to stimulate her pyshically and mentally. but she continues to act like a bad puppy. Please im close to tears most nights when i come home and find more of my house wrecked. im close to giving her up to HS. please give me some idea of where im going wrong. :confused: :(

BMDLuver
March 8th, 2005, 02:55 PM
How old is she? Was she a feral?

How about putting her in a large dog crate when you go out to work so that she has her litter box and some toys to play with along with a comfy blanket? That way she can't get into so much trouble when you aren't around?

Also, don't be offended, but why would you at this time be looking to add a second animal into your home when you are having difficulties with the one you do have? :o

Lucky Rescue
March 8th, 2005, 02:59 PM
I doubt if there is anything you did to cause this behavior, which from the sound of it is DEFINITELY abnormal. It could be neurological. I suggest you have the vet give her a complete examination to try and determine if anything physical is the cause.

IF no cause is found, you might ask the vet for medication to mellow her out a bit. She sounds like an extremely thin-skinned cat who is not happy or comfortable and that may help her. You can also try using Rescue Remedy.

Was this cat feral?

PLEASE PLEASE - DO NOT send her to the shelter. If you don't want her no one else will and even if someone does adopt her, she is liable to be severely abused or dumped on the street!!

If she is not adopted, she will spend days terrified at the shelter and die at the hands of strangers. She does not deserve this, since she cannot help the way she acts.

If nothing changes, or her behavior gets worse and you cannot keep her, please do the responsible thing and take her to the vet to have her gently put down.:(

Britishvixen21
March 8th, 2005, 03:08 PM
No she wasnt ferrel she came from my freind who had 3 young boys so my feeling is she didnt have much training. as for caging her, I tried that in the bathroom with her bed, toys, food, litter. (she seems to like the bathroom its her safe room and the only room where she will sit on my lap and let me pet her) and she howled all day to be let out! and im talking all day. My nieghbour didnt complain but mentioned it.
As for the second pet ive always been a dog person and seem to have an affinity with them. at least with a dog they listen. as for cats i saw a great saying the other day. 'Cats dont come when there called they take a message and get back to you'. Maybe your right and its food for thought however Mya is to me untrainable 4 months!! and still nothing?

Britishvixen21
March 8th, 2005, 03:11 PM
As an afterthought caging her doesnt really deal with the issue of her stopping being bad it just stops her while im not there. im looking more for training ideas?

Britishvixen21
March 8th, 2005, 03:24 PM
Dont worry lucky I dont have it in me to take her their. the whole reason I took her in the first place was because my freind couldnt handle her anymore and was expecting twins. She was on her way with her to the HS when I took her in. Im just venting frustration. I will take her to the vets and see what he says. im still reeling from the shots and spaying which set me back $500!! I just dont know what else to do, theres so much out there for dog training and dog training books but nothing for cats. If i was having this trouble with a dog id take him or her to dog classes. I mean its like shes a dog chewing everything. I know you have to take some damage control with pets like for instance shes a little heavy footed and I didnt get the porcelain bathroom set i really wanted i got the plastic one and i put my shelves higher and moved furniture so she couldnt get to certain places and got down on my hands and knees and made sure it was cat safe. But am i expected to turn my whole life around for a pet that im not enjoying i mean jesus if i wanted that id have had a baby LOL. Can anyone recommend any good cat training books my library looked at me like i was mad.

chico2
March 8th, 2005, 03:54 PM
Britishvixen,to me this sounds completely abnormal...I've had cats most of my life and currently have three,all males.Females can at time be more"spiritual"than males,but your cat is defintely a bit too spiritual...
You say you are a dog-person and you do not enjoy this cat,that too could be part of the problem.What Lucky suggested with some meds,might help,otherwise I would have suggested a companion,but the way she is,it probably not a good idea.
As for cuddling,cats generally want cuddling on their terms,their time....and do definetly not like being carried around,except for my Vinnie who likes to lay over my shoulder while I clean house,at 15lb's it's getting a little difficult :D
Also,my cats actually always come when they are called,even when we are outside,unless they have a mouse or something.... :D
Cats are not stupid,they can learn,if you just spend enough time with them...but your little one might have some kind of medical problem,maybe she growls because you touch a sore spot?
I noticed you offered to take the blind little pit-pup,which is great,but are you prepared for the damage he might do,being alone all day?

CyberKitten
March 8th, 2005, 04:14 PM
I agree. This is absolutely abnormal. She is spayed, right? I suggest Rescue Remedy or Feliway (sp?) but really, I have to wonder like Chico if your kitty senses you are not a cat person as you stated?

chico2
March 8th, 2005, 04:33 PM
Cyberkitten,where can I buy Rescue Remedy..vet,healthfood-store or Pet-Food supplier?

BMDLuver
March 8th, 2005, 04:58 PM
Health Food Store will be the cheapest I have found.

CyberKitten
March 8th, 2005, 05:06 PM
Rescue Remedy is cheapest where I live anyway at the Atlantic Superstore Health Food section. It is available at a favourite health food store I go to but about $5 more there. Atlantic Superstore is the grocery chain that markets Presidents' Choice products - Loblaws maybe - Provigo in Quebec.

Lucky Rescue
March 8th, 2005, 06:28 PM
im still reeling from the shots and spaying which set me back $500!!

I'd be reeling too at these prices. This is truly shocking. :eek:

I see that you work during the day. What are you going to do with a 12 week old blind puppy while you're not there? Who is going to housetrain him?

mesaana
March 8th, 2005, 06:33 PM
This is what I recommend: contact the vet school at Guelph and see if they have a veterinary behaviourist on staff. I know there is one in St-Hyacinthe and I'm guessing they have one there too. This is a vet with a 3 (or 4, I don't remember) year specialty in behaviour medicine. The initial consultation usually runs 1-2 hours, which is more time than your vet can give you. If you have a video camera, they'll recommend that you film her so they can see her in her own environment. What they usually do first is determine if this is normal or abnormal behaviour. If it is abnormal, they'll be able to suggest medication to help her. They'll also suggest training/exercises to do at home as appropriate.

Good luck!

Lyne

Britishvixen21
March 9th, 2005, 08:25 AM
Ok let me clarify a few things, maybe i mistyped I am out of the house all day my hb is in until 4pm i get home at 6.30 thats 2 hours alone. What i mean is, is that I cant watch her all day!
secondly I have declined the pup so lets stop critising me for just wanting to stop a dog being killed just for being blind and get back to the issue at hand!
Thirdly I did not say that I wasnt a cat person - I said that i had always found it easy to train dogs and had an affinity with them. I also know a lot about dog training. However there is very little out there on wild pyscho cats who chew through live wires. We have done nothing but love Mya since the day she came to us. I am always looking out for her best interest and worrying for her well being. If I was not a cat person i wouldnt give a **** and wouldnt be on here trying to get some advice!
Thank you to all the people that have given me constructive advice and tips. I will try the rescue remedy and see how she does. I would love to take her to Guelph but without a car and via being anti pet it may be a while till i can get her down there. As for $500, when she came to us she had nothing, she hadnt even seen a vet., she had to have three sets of shots over three weeks before they would spay her and then to ease her pain a little we went for the lazer surgery its a quicker healing time. If anyone can recomend any books that I can get and any tips on how i can stop her from chewing the wires. I mean do i stop her chewing everything or do i get her something that she likes to chew and gode her to chew that instead? Shes so quick to its like shes doing it to be destructive like last night I had my MP3 player in bed. I get up for 1 minute to get something shed got up on the bed chewed my ear phone wires in half and left!!! im confused?

chico2
March 9th, 2005, 08:39 AM
Vixen,I am sorry,I was just a bit baffled by your problem,I've never heard of such a destructive cat and I thought she might be unhappy and stressed for some reason,you did say"a pet you don't enjoy"and even that I can understand if she destroys everything...I thought you might be punishing her harshly and making things worse.
I hope you can get some help for her and she'll become the wonderful cat you want her to be.
Lucky,maybe fostering a companion-kitty would help,or would she be too disturbed for a kitten?

Ps,thank's BMDluver and CK,I'll try my Health-food store!!

Britishvixen21
March 9th, 2005, 08:50 AM
Sorry Chico I didnt mean to sound off just frustrated thats all. Im trying not to tell her off. But its getting hard. Im trying to be calm but firm. I mean i felt terrible putting tabasco sauce on everything and seeing her reel back after biting into it. But that does seem to be working with the household appliances. But I cant put it on everything. I so want her to be a loving cat i can tell that she was pretty much left to fend for herself from a young age and that had made her pretty much ferrel. I did think about another kitty freind but i dont want to adopt one and then have them fighting. However she was with another cat in the home we took her from and she didnt seem to have a problem. Do you think this could be the answer? and if so an older cat she could learn from or a kitten?

BMDLuver
March 9th, 2005, 09:28 AM
secondly I have declined the pup so lets stop critising me for just wanting to stop a dog being killed just for being blind and get back to the issue at hand!

Just to clarify... this dog is in absolutely no danger of being euthanised for being blind. Sophie is a great lady who will keep this dog or any dog for however long it takes to find the right home.


Great! now on to the matter at hand. Good luck with your cat!

Lucky Rescue
March 9th, 2005, 09:33 AM
Like Chico, I"ve never heard of a cat so destructive either. This is way outside the boundaries of normal. Chewing live wires, in particular, is going to get her killed.

I usually do suggest getting a companion for a wild and crazy kitten, but hesitated in your case, since your cat seems to have a serious problem.

BUT, if you say she was okay in her former home with a cat, that may be the answer or at least lessen the problem. Cats who have each other to chase and play with all day don't have time to be destructive.

Why don't you try fostering a young neutered male (laid back type) from a rescue or HS? This way, you can try it out and if it doesn't work, the rescue will rehome the second for you. This, and the Rescue Remedy, may ease her troubles.

Britishvixen21
March 9th, 2005, 09:38 AM
Thanks for that unnesecary clarification BDM,
Thanks lucky I did wonder that about a companion and maybe it will keep her a little more busy. I also worry that shes going to get a shock one day. Im surprised that she didnt from the cell phone charger.
My freind has a male cat whos very mellow, I might get them together and see how they go for a couple of hours and get a good idea. Thank you very much for all your help.

CyberKitten
March 9th, 2005, 09:47 AM
You said VIA is anti cat. I am not the biggest fan of VIA but they in fact do allow pets. I have brought my Siamese cat on one train trip and it was very good. While you cannot keep your baby with you, they will let you go and see her in the car she is in - and it is not like lacking O2 as in airline cargo holds. And the personnel were wonderful. They all fell in love with her and could not do enough.

So give them a call and try booking a trip to Guelph! Good luck!!

Britishvixen21
March 9th, 2005, 09:57 AM
Cyber do you know how much they charge for this consultation? I wish i did have a vid camera because I can only liken her to a shcistzophrenic (sp?) one minute shes sitting there all cute the next shes freaking out. ppl who come to the house dont believe me!!! LOL
Thanks again for all the encouragement I dont feel so alone with the mad cat now.

CyberKitten
March 9th, 2005, 10:06 AM
Sorry, I do not know the fee for a consultation. I'd check out their web site or give them a call. An alternative might be a behavioural therapist - I know they exist for cats in large centers (My sister brought her Blue Russian to a therapust when she and her ex were getting a divorce; little Nicki being upset over the prospect of so much change and uphevil.) Again, good luck!

Lucky Rescue
March 9th, 2005, 10:15 AM
My freind has a male cat whos very mellow, I might get them together and see how they go for a couple of hours and get a good idea.

NO!!! Cats are not like puppies who will get together and start playing right away!

Introductions with cats must be done very slowly - they must be kept separate and they should not even see each other for days. It can take a month to introduce cats, depending on their personalities.

Bringing home a strange cat and plunking it down in front of her is likely to cause a big fight and major stress. Instant introductions only work if both cats are young kittens. The older they are, the longer it takes usually.

Please read the following article. It's a good guideline, and you may be able to cut out some steps, or may have to repeat others, depending on how it's going.
Introducing cats (http://www.thecatsite.com/content/view/11/26/)

Britishvixen21
March 9th, 2005, 10:41 AM
Thanks so much for that lucky, I had read a similiar article in a book that i was given for xmas on cats (just doenst go into specifics about behaviour) and I would plan on that. Gonna be a little difficult in a studio apartment however Mya seems to feel most relaxed in the bathroom so I might try it in there. Thanks for the article it was interesting reading.

Britishvixen21
March 9th, 2005, 12:09 PM
There was actually a really good article on there about cat aggression and how to handle her when shes being postal! I think il try the techniques the next time she goes loopy. I can see where i was maybe going wrong in a few instances too. Maybe il post on there and ask about chewers.

maddoxies
March 11th, 2005, 11:00 AM
I am not the most computer technical person, but ask at a Staples, or Future Shop, I think an inexpensive web cam can be worked up to record some of kitty's behaviour (they do have long USB cables if the computer is not too conveniently located)

Maybe Guelph can give you some advice over the phone, or internet, if you can't get there right away.

Rescue Remedy can be administered directly into the animal's mouth, topically by rubbing it in where the fur/skin is thinner (top of head, ear flap), and generally by adding a dropper full to the drinking water.

Good luck

Britishvixen21
March 11th, 2005, 11:24 AM
I thought I would give everyone an update:
after reading all your posts I went home and had a chat with the hb, and We realised that its maybe not Mya well it is but in essence its us too. Im so uptight now and worried about her chewing everything that its making her stressed and therefore aggressive. Also I realised that although I dont mean to I can be very verbal sometimes and that maybe scares her also. Soooo that night I spent lots of time with her, I played with her with a little ball and kept flicking it around and letting her go get it, its her fav game and I got right down on my hands and knees and gave her lots of praise. She also loves stuff on sticks to I tied one of her mice with catnip to the stick (this stops my hands getting ripped to shreds) and we played with that for a good hour before she got tired. I gave her lots of treats afterwards and rubbed her head still keeping my distance from her. and it seemed to work she really enjoyed herself and didnt give me grief at 5am.
Last nigth was a busy night I had a driving lesson and literally all i could do was come in feed her pet her for 5 minutes and run out of the door again. she was not impressed. When i got in she came and sat on my lap on the toilet (dont ask) and was wailing at my for leaving her! I had every intention of playing with her but passed out cold. Well she let me know she wasnt impressed by scratching at that litter tray like she was trying to go to china, But instead of getting up and shouting or picking her up and giving her attention weve decided that we will ignore her so that she sees shes nto getting any attention during the night. If we do get up to go pee or something when shes woken us up we shut the bathroom door and dont say anything or pay her attention because then were teaching her that, thats time to play. and it worked she came up on the bed laid next to me and passed out before i did. weve also taken a very calm tone with her and its working wonders. she found an elastic band (dont ask me where cos i can never find the bloody things) and I said to her in a very calm voice. "mya no Please" and she looks up I look at her and she just walks off. Im not saying that in two days weve changed the way the cat lives breathes and pees, but were making progress, I made an appointment with our vet for next week and we plan to ask him about the rescue remedy.
Were also considering getting a play freind for her to stop being so destructive. but really we were in a vicious circle. she was being destructive cos she was bored I was getting aggravated and she was sensing that, so when I did try and pay her attention she got aggresive. and then I didnt want to play with her so she chewed stuff!! So now ive set aside an hour of strictly play time I put on some music so no TV to distract me and we play with the toy of the day.
Il let you know how it turns out.

chico2
March 11th, 2005, 03:40 PM
BV,I think you are on th right path :thumbs up I've always had more than one cat,it's fun watching them interact,it's better for you and Mya,she won't be bored...but introducing a new kitten certainly takes some pateince,but it usually works out great in the end.
Cats/Dogs always pick up on how you feel and can easily become more stressed if you are yelling,I know I've done it a few times,since I have a cat who is spraying although he's neutered.
Good luck to you and Mya and keep us posted!

badger
March 11th, 2005, 06:28 PM
You're absolutely on the right track. When I go in to visit with my rescues, who are sometimes climbing the walls, I speak very quietly and lightly, as one would with a recalcitrant child. They really seem to respond to it. Of course, Rescue Remedy comes in handy! Unless your vet is really clued in, s/he may not know what it is, but believe me it works. And instead of squirting it down your cats throat, since she is a bit, ah, reactive, I suggest you add a dropper full to her water.

CyberKitten
March 11th, 2005, 10:30 PM
Thx for the update.

Yep, I agree. You are on the right track. Cats sense how we feel and they can be quite destructive if they feel they need attention. (Siamese especially have been known to chew expensive wool clothes). But we sometimes reinforce unwanted or inappropriate behaviour without realizing it, especially after a long day!

Good luck with the consulation and at the vet. Like Badger, I doubt your vet will advocate Rescue Remedy (just like I do not necessarily prescribe some alterative meds in my pratice - litigaton et al). Also, their practices are even more small businesses than my kind of work is and they tend to promote drugs they have on hand. (I do not not even know if they give out samples of meds, lol - Mind have always been as part of the overall treatment). One vet I know does prescribe cocculine (found at Health food store, Jean Coutu or SuperStore - like Loblaws) as a calming med. It works well for YY when we travel though she has become quote accustomed to travel and now jumps in her carrier when she sees I am going somewhere. (Mind you, her experiences at the vet have all been very positive).

Let is know how you make out.

amber416
March 12th, 2005, 01:47 AM
BV, Mya's behavior sounds somewhat simillar to my cat, Tink's behavior at times, except a lot worse. She's about a year old now but she certainly acts out when she feels she is not getting the attention, or the kind of attention, she wants. If I have a busy day or do not get down on the floor to play with her and get my hands torn up by her claws :) regularly, she can definitely get destructive and even a little aggressive. I too have thought about a playmate but I am nervous it will backfire...my first pair of foster kittens come this week,though, so we will see soon enough i guess! I agree that you are on the right track and good luck with your own sassy kitty :) .

Safyre
March 13th, 2005, 05:42 PM
BritishVixen -
The best thing that I have found to stop my animals from chewing on wires... we actually used it as a preventative measure with my pup ...
Go to Canadian Tire or any home improvment sore. You can get something almsot like fishtank filter tubing.
What you would do is cover the wires in in. Make a cut down the length of the tube, and push the wires into the tube. You can get the tubing in different sizes, so any type of wire can be protected. My dog hasn't gotten through it, or has found it pointless to try. So it should work for your cat. It's not terribly expensive, and really does the trick. Also, Computer Stores have the same sorta thing , more used to keep wires from tangling together, so that might help as well.

When you said that your cat wouldn't let you touch her... maybe there is something physically wrong, that makes it HURT for you to touch her.
My suggestion would be to go to Guelph as well, and get a consultation on how to assist.
Also, when you do see the cat eing destructive, spray bottle with a lil bit of vinegar always has worked for my cats. They were never "destructive" the same that yours is... but, it makes them re-think the behaviour, for the most part.

Britishvixen21
March 14th, 2005, 08:52 AM
Thank you so much for your kind encouragement, This weekend I actually had fun with her. We went to Zellers and treated her to a new scratching post. She hasnt used it yet and was not amused with my gentle encouragement with her paws!!
But she has been a really good girl, and when she was about to be bad I justed asked her nicely to stop. and she responded really well. On sunday I took my nap and woke up she was right there next to me snoring away. We still cant stop her from chewing but shes not as bad. she went through my hbs MP3 speakers at some point over the weekend dont know when shes pretty quick so we couldnt really tell her off for it as it was over and done with in her mind. We do use those wire protecters behind the computer however its just the little things that are the problem like the mp3 wires we cant cover them up only try to hide them. and shes a sucker for a hairband. But overall shes improving Im still unsure as to whether a buddy is the answer I also dont want it to backfire and we have to assess whether we can afford a mate!
Thanks again, and il keep you posted. :)

badger
March 14th, 2005, 09:42 AM
If she doesn't take to the scratching post, I find that a rough mat works just as well. You can buy them at the dollar store for a few dollars, some of them are soft, like indoor carpeting and others are much rougher. My cats really go to town on them. And they like to lie on them too.

Britishvixen21
March 14th, 2005, 10:36 AM
I never thought of that thanks badger, as she currently uses our rug (which i dont mind as we are replacing) but i dont want the new one clawed, il try that maybe shel make it her bed, as she has a bed more comfortable than mine and she wont sleep in it preffering the cold windowsill!!

happycats
March 14th, 2005, 10:42 AM
You can try putting catnip on her new scratchpost so she will use it.
I know people will say that will make her spaz out even more, but I find my 5 cats get excited at first, then pass out and sleep for a long time after they eat the catnip!

Rita
March 14th, 2005, 10:44 AM
We found that using catnip on our scratching posts worked really well too. We also used one of their favorite toys and had them clawing at it / chasing it on the scratching post then praising and giving treats. They caught on really quickly that using the scrathing post was a good thing!! :)

happycats
March 14th, 2005, 10:53 AM
Just a word of warning, If you tie a toy to the scratch post, do it under close supervision only! and take if off when you are not around.

A friend of mine lost her cat by hanging, when she tied a cat toy to a bedroom doorway in her apartment before she went to work. When she came home after work, her cat was dead! Her cat had gotten the string (attached to the toy) wrapped around her neck and died.

Britishvixen21
March 14th, 2005, 11:04 AM
Thanks Rita, I had been trying to figure out a way to get her near it as shes just not interested at the moment. However I dont think shes a huge fan of catnip ive tried her with it before and to no avail. nearly all her toys have catnip and she doesnt go for them. however il try it. Thanks for the tip

Rita
March 14th, 2005, 11:47 AM
I agree with Happycats warning ... never tie a toy to a scratching post! One of our posts came with ropes/balls attached (you may see it in one of our pics on our site) but we have even shortened those by wrapping them around the post and tying them up so they are not so long.
The other thing we noticed with some of the scratching posts is that they're not really stable. We have attached a piece of plywood to the base of one of our posts otherwise it would have surely tipped over when the Boyz were scratching at it. You don't want that to happen because then your cat would just be afraid of it and not go near it.

Britishvixen21
March 15th, 2005, 09:42 AM
Oh no I woudnt dream of it, this is literally a plank of wood with rope around it, nothing fancy so theres no chance of her getting stuck in it. Last night I took your advice and got the scratching post rubbed cat nip liberally LOL. and then we got her fav toy a mouse on the end of a stick and played our usual nightly game. I had the scratching post in the middle of the floor and slowly kept bringing the most closer to the post. she was hesitant and kept stopping short of the post but i can see that shes curious. as the game progressed she did become more comfortable with being around it. I can see it working. Now i just need to know how to get her to scractch at it, as when we were done she sauntered off strectched up the bed and scratched away at the bed as usual !!! LOL. I tried gently rubbing her paws over it but shes still not into this whole Mummy touching me business, and when i got my paws and showed her she looked at me like the idiot I must have seemed LOL. But when we were playing the game I did as you said and gave her lots of praise everytime she went near the post. then my hb got home and i was telling him what to do, he picking up the post and theres rope at the end starts twirling it around and she goes for it straight away LOL. im sure he can talk to the animals. But I dont want to her to start thinking its a chew toy, preliminarily its a scratch post. But thank you so much for the advice I can see it slowly working. Im actually enjpying time with her. :grouphug:

Rita
March 15th, 2005, 10:06 AM
Glad to hear things are going well :) Hopefully she'll catch on quickly!

chico2
March 15th, 2005, 03:32 PM
BV,I too am glad you and kitty are doing better,in my house,my cats have me on a schedule,a routine,playtime is when I watch TV... :D
Maybe your hubby can build her a simple kitty-gym,where she can scratch and climb to her little hearts content,kitties love to climb up on things,feel safe when they are high up.
Someone here built a really nice one,but here is our kind of crude but serves it's purpose kitty-gym.

Britishvixen21
March 15th, 2005, 03:57 PM
Thanks for the encouragement Chico, Yeah shes a climber alright weve had to re arrange the whole apartment so that tehres at least one shelf for stuff we really dont want her to chew!!! LOL. Thats a great idea i love your gym it looks like there having a great time! My father in law is a carpenter were going for the easter weekend maybe he can knock me something up for her and il carpet it. The only thing is something capsisable would be ideal as we live in a very small apartment so it would be nice to have something we could put away when company come. I saw one once that had a curved platform and this cat just loved sitting in that little curve. something like that would be ideal to put next to the window as she loves looking out of the window. THank again for all the help.

Lucky Rescue
March 15th, 2005, 08:19 PM
I was getting aggravated and she was sensing that

Didn't want to mention that you need to calm down, but you do.:p

Cats are extremely sensitive to our emotions and energies. ALL my skittish fosters knew something was up on adoption days, and would run under the bed the instant I stepped into their room, even though they came and gave me headbutts all the other days. They picked up my nervousness.

Mya may never be a laid back cuddler, but you can love her for what she is!:)

Britishvixen21
March 17th, 2005, 01:04 PM
LOL I know I was getting so uptight with her I was comming into the house tense to see what she had broken! But things have completly turned around, last night I was laying on the couch and she came and sat on my chest and let me rub her head, and SHE actually moved closer to my face. and was rubbing her head against my cheek. She looked at me as if to say "thanks for chillin mum!" I looked at her and got this rush of love for her, I guess kinda like a new mum would for her child. and the same one I got the day we bough Holly home from the rescue back home (hold back a sob for her family dog 3000 miles away) So things are going really good. I also went to the dollar store last night and got a load of stickers for her carry case, It now says Mya Thomson right on the front in mettalic letters and is covered with Winnie the Pooh Stickers and has a Canada sticker on the bumper LOL. I wanted a union jack but there a little hard to come by in this country. Shes a little hesitant of it but I put treats leading up to and in the cart and shes slowly getting used to it. Im hoping it will become her permanent bed so then she wont get freaked when shes in it to go out. anyways il keep updating.

chico2
March 17th, 2005, 01:12 PM
BV,you don't know how happy I am that you are understanding your kitty,a little bit at a time and I'm sure she'll be the loving little girl she was supposed to be.
Girl-kitties are generally a little more skittish than boys,the total opposite to dogs...but you are doing great,love and care is all they really need.... :love:

Lucky Rescue
March 17th, 2005, 01:27 PM
Chico makes a good point! Male cats usually have the attitude "DO whatever you want to me, just gimme some lovin's!" ALL the time.

Girls are more "I'll let you know when you may pet me, thank you!!"

Mya sounds thin-skinned and may not be able to handle much physical contact for now, so it's best to let her come to you.

Prin
March 17th, 2005, 01:27 PM
Yey. That's great that this kitty is given a chance to work out. :)

Britishvixen21
March 17th, 2005, 01:59 PM
Ive heard that saying a lot thin skinned, I think I know what it means but can someone clarify. does it mean that her skin is very thin and shes very sensitive to touch? :confused:

chico2
March 17th, 2005, 03:33 PM
BV,I think it's just a saying,but I could be wrong,it usually means they are a bit more sensitive and nervous,stresses easy.

Britishvixen21
March 17th, 2005, 03:50 PM
oooooooohhhhhhhhhhhhhhh I see, yeah thats definatly her alright. :party: