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Sad,troublesome day

chico2
February 24th, 2005, 04:26 PM
I don't know about the rest of you,but today on several occasions I've been sitting here crying,between little Holly dying,drowning of kittens and unwanted pit-puppies,it's not been a good day...... :sad: :sad:

BMDLuver
February 24th, 2005, 04:28 PM
Shyla, the neo mastiff went to her forever home today.... Lana the hedgehog tagged along for the ride... It was sunny... Days are getting longer... ummmm C'mon guys help out here, lol! :thumbs up

CyberKitten
February 24th, 2005, 04:30 PM
Not so hot either Chico. I had to call the "death" of a patient - a child who had couragously battled leukemia for ten years! WE did everything we could - it clearly was not enough. (sigh!) And I had to inform five other children and their parents that they have some type of cancer. So I came home and dressed in my jeans and T shirt and played mousie with Yin Yin. Thjose images of drowned mewing kittens - scratching at the burlap as they are powerless to fight the current and the water - really stay with me too. I find them hard to get out my my head!

(And I am still suppsed to do a post debriefling from Sumatra about all the things we see there - we always do it with Les Medecins de Frontieres but I have not yet found time).

Maybe we need a vacation! :)

(Gawd, this is the 3rd editing - I need grammar check and spell check, lol)

chico2
February 24th, 2005, 04:32 PM
Thank's BMDluver,but now I have happyness tears for Shyla....and the little prickly thingy :thumbs up I am just such a big sob :mad:
CK,I admire you for the courage it must take to deliver such sad news.....to children and parents. :sad:

BMDLuver
February 24th, 2005, 04:32 PM
I've now crashed n burned, joining in :sad:

CyberKitten
February 24th, 2005, 04:34 PM
Sorry BMD Lover, but if you guys want to come overm I've got lots of hot cocoa and popcorn and other junk food. (Kitkat bars and hickory sticks)

BMDLuver
February 24th, 2005, 04:38 PM
No problem CK, I was just trying to forget the bad stuff... What you do is so incredibly difficult and I think it makes some of us a little more humble.

I think I might have to make a tray of brownies tonight and eat them all by myself.

chico2
February 24th, 2005, 04:39 PM
K,I am on my way,just have to feed three "starving"cats first.....I have 3 pairs of eyes,accusingly telling me to get off the PC and feed them..so I will!
I am happy beautiful Shyla has a new home,hopefully it will work out and maybe tomorrow will be a better day for all our animals out there.
Thank's Guys :love:

CyberKitten
February 24th, 2005, 04:40 PM
When I was first out of university and did not cook as much as I do now (when I have time, lol) - I used to buy those Sara Lee brownies. I could eat the entire pkg!!

BMDLuver
February 24th, 2005, 05:03 PM
I've only ever bought sara lee pound cake, now I'll be watching for the brownies!

Shamrock
February 24th, 2005, 05:05 PM
Aww, sorry everyone. :sorry:

Its a cruel world at times. Sometimes one just feels overwhelmed by the sadness that is beyond our control :sad: it temporarily overshadows all the good. But just temporarily....

How about a plate of brownies.. AND a visit to see the sweet animal pics?That always cheers me up- these adorable faces! :angel: ( especially the young and old thread! :)

Shamrock
February 24th, 2005, 05:07 PM
omg, Twinmommy! They are SO beautiful!! What little darlings! :grouphug:

BMDLuver
February 24th, 2005, 05:07 PM
OMG, those two are absolutely adorable!

mastifflover
February 24th, 2005, 05:08 PM
How is Shyla doing I am so glad she found a good forever home

lilith_rizel
February 24th, 2005, 05:22 PM
Twinmommy,

Same thing goes here. Judith always cheers me up.

coonlover
February 24th, 2005, 05:55 PM
Twinmommy and Lilith, Your babies are beautiful you both must be very proud! Chico, I know how you feel, I find myself very angry at first after reading about these animal cruelty stories but after the anger wears off I'm very saddened by it. I wish there were something we could do to stop people from being so mean and cruel. :grouphug:

BMDLuver
February 24th, 2005, 05:59 PM
Judith has grown so much! She's adorable, don't ya just want to squish her, lol.



Mastifflover: Shyla went to a fabulous home with previous experience. They had been looking for one for the last 3 years. She is going to be one spoiled young lady. She also gets to play with lots of dog friends on neighbouring properties, horses and even a few pigs thrown into the mix for good measure. I will probably be checking in on her in the next few weeks at her home on my way for a girls weekend.

maddoxies
February 24th, 2005, 06:09 PM
Maybe it is the full moon, coz I have had one absolutely miserable day too. There are two golden pups at Berger Blanc and another at Chiechien, price negotiable.........

Got a call last night that my 2.5 week old great niece is in hospital on oxygen. They are about 400 miles away from me. My knee is killing me and I have an arthogram tomorrow for it. Not looking forward to that honking big needle

And Holly's passing and the newcomer who's cat dropped dead in front of him this morning, and I need to stop for groceries but that involves money

And the boss, and work, and a few of the other idiots cluttering up the planet.

Glad for the ones who got their foreverhomes today, and that the hedgehog got to tag along

Oh well, there is kibble in the storage bins and two furbutts waiting for me at home :angel: :evil: (and you all know which one is which)

Grouphugs to everyone, me included :grouphug:

Karin
February 24th, 2005, 06:46 PM
I can look around & in two minutes or less find someone other than me that has it much worse. My outlook on life changed drastically after fighting cancer, and recently found out that fight was a wash out.
My friend & co-worker, Carol, just left here after having dinner with me. I hope I was successful in cheering her up. Carol stood by me through my sx's & treatment only to find out she had breast cancer too. She just finished her treatments and her husband left her last night.
We both are between a so called "rock & a hard place"...no more health insurance, at an age where there is no help what so ever. So we work until we die...really.
I was turned down by one of the largest University teaching hospitals (Shands) because I "fall through the cracks" of society. I have always been convinced single, low income people are not meant to survive a catistrophic illness. Now Carol is scared too. She only works part time and has a new mortgage to support. She too falls into those evil cracks.
But we laughed for hours tonight....we can still laugh.
Like I said in the beginning, I can always find someone worse off than I.

If life throws you a lemon, squeeze it on the nearest lobster.

(stole that line from a commercial 'cos I liked it)

BMDLuver
February 24th, 2005, 07:00 PM
I love the lemon idea... of course, I love lobster!

My Dad's saying is "if life gives you lemons make lemonade". Mine is "Don't sweat the small stuff". As we see daily, there are big things out there that some have to deal with on a day to day basis, good to be reminded about that and to be able to be thankful for each day.

I must be getting tired as I'm getting philisophical. :o

twinmommy
February 24th, 2005, 07:16 PM
Thanks for the compliments on my wee ones, guys, and Lileth your daughter is simply scrumptious!!!

How eerie that today, while we are getting philosophical, I heard on the radio a song by Tim McGraw. I don't usually listen to country, and the station is not even one of my presets in the car--which is why it's so weird-- but the name of the song said it all...."We should live like we are dying."

great song.

Karin, I'm so sorry to hear about the terrible things you've been going through. When you say "even that was a wash out" do you mean that you are still not o.k.? :(

Karin
February 24th, 2005, 07:36 PM
Thanks for the compliments on my wee ones, guys, and Lileth your daughter is simply scrumptious!!!

How eerie that today, while we are getting philosophical, I heard on the radio a song by Tim McGraw. I don't usually listen to country, and the station is not even one of my presets in the car--which is why it's so weird-- but the name of the song said it all...."We should live like we are dying."

great song.

Karin, I'm so sorry to hear about the terrible things you've been going through. When you say "even that was a wash out" do you mean that you are still not o.k.? :(

Pretty much so as I have been told, actually knew last year, Shands did say I may be to qualify for testing in October when more funds are available. What good is testing if you cannot afford to go further in my opinion..(Nuf said)
The song is "Live Like You Are Dying". McGraw did not write this and the writers had no idea McGraw's father, Tug McGraw died from brain cancer the year before. Tug McGraw was a major league baseball pitcher. When the song writers approached him about recording the song..everything fell into place. I do not care for his music but he deserved all the awards for cutting the song...I was a fan of his dad though.

I'm gonna sit on the couch for a bit. Got my lemon, no lobster but I have a cold Corona waiting for me.

Lucky Rescue
February 24th, 2005, 08:23 PM
Karin I am so sorry for what you have endured, and continue to endure. It really stinks. :sad:

happycats
February 24th, 2005, 08:40 PM
here I sit feeling really bad, but now I know all of you are having troubles to.
I just found out my best friend who just had a baby jan 29/05, is in the hospital, ,just had brain sugery, her hubby tells me she had a brain anurism (sp?) in the centre of her brain, the outlook is not very good :sad:
her new baby boy "Noah" may lose his mother, I have been crying since I found out.
I am so greatful I have this place to come to during the hard times!

CyberKitten
February 24th, 2005, 09:29 PM
Karin,

I am so sorry to hear about your situation. Even as an oncologist, I had to face cervical cancer when I was in my early 30's. (about 10 yrs ago). I knew though that caught early, it was probably one of the better diagnoses to get. I am always so angry when I hear about people in the US who are turned down because of financial reasons. I do NOT understand that way of thinking I guess. Have you sought out clinical trials or that kind of thing?

You sound very brave, I have to say. I cope with cancer every day - life and death as it were. One my patients who was all of 13 overheard a nursing assistant asking why he had been referred for rather involved test - "isn't he terminal?", she'd asked. He told her "we're all terminal." And he was righ! (Sadly, he died a few yrs ago) I pushed our hospital board to fire her - lots of hell with the union but I cannot tolerate that attitude!

I live with constant chronic pain (a spinal problem,COPD and cardiac probs- very looong story) but my work saves me!

The difference is of course I am not the one with cancer but I think about it ALL the time - the environment, research, how far we've come yet have to go. It even bothered me that I posted the other day that we've done so much for AIDS in pediatrics and then I thought to mysellf, "yeah, sure, if you happen to live in the western world!" I might add - hearing your experience - that in the western world with a good insurance plan or a country with national health insurance.

Keep up your wonderful attitude!! :grouphug:

Karin
February 24th, 2005, 10:52 PM
I have talked to people from the get go...until I was talked out. The system does suck for air in the US. If I was younger and had dependents, that would be great for medical care, or old enough for Medicaid. I'm in the middle part...47 years old. No dependents. As of the 1st of the year, no insurance, (paid for it for 3 years, could not use it). And as of the 1st, I learned a week after, I lost all my sick leave & vacation. New payroll/management company..I am considered a "new hire" so I lost senority also.

Thanks for all your support folks but I'm squeezing lemons here...all things happen for a reason. Look around you...you can always find someone worse off..I can too. Like I said before, 'nuf said. (Been on the phone with Carol for the past two hours, she is hurting tonight)

Sneaky2006
February 25th, 2005, 12:32 AM
Karin, I'm so sorry about what you and your friend are going through. :sad:
I sent you a PM.

chico2
February 25th, 2005, 07:42 AM
Karin,I know you have an enormous amount of courage and a wonderful sense of humour and I hope you and Ciara can keep fighting the fight...it's an ugly,scary disease.
Medical care should be a right for everyone,I wish you could come here to us and get the care you need,it just stuns me,that a country spending billions on war,will not take care of their own...
All the best to you and your friend and of course Ciara :love:

sammiec
February 25th, 2005, 07:47 AM
Ths thread has me in tears. I am already emotional and this just put me over the edge. It's been difficult around here lately. Life is not easy (unless you're 5) and we just have to play the cards we're dealt...

Karin, I am so sorry for what you and your friend are going through right now, just know that you always have a should er to lean on here at pets.ca! (((((HUGS)))) I will be thinking about you guys!

Lilith and Twinmommy, you have the most precious babies! So adorable!

Chico, keep your head up lady! We may not be able to save all the animals in the world, but we can sure try and you do so much for this board! You are a wonderful and very inspirational women!

chico2
February 25th, 2005, 07:58 AM
Thank's Sammiec,unfortunately I am in no position to help anybody and it is frustrating and sad....there are so many people here,who fight brave battles every day,be it personal or for our animalfriends out there and I :love: you all :grouphug:

caliper
February 25th, 2005, 08:27 AM
I know for a fact that I cant wait until one day soon I can adopt two new babies into my home, one little Pussy cat and the other a Puppy dog. Its just going to take some time for Mary Ann and I to go through our grieving period. What I need is for a friend to bring a little one and leave it in a box on my porch ring the bell and run. This way we wouldnt have any option but to bring them into the house and make it whole again.

maddoxies
February 25th, 2005, 08:51 AM
Caliper: What is your address ??? I can make a run to PA. ;) Do you like goldens? Or one of the pittie babies we are trying to save?? I am sure Lucky has a great cat for you too.

I have nicknamed my van "Noah's Ark" for all the critters I transport.

Interesting, how many of us were having such a horrible day yesterday, and a lot of the animals in Toronto all went weird at the same time last week. Has to make you wonder :confused:

Karin, tell Carol to sell the house and both of you jump in the car and move to :ca: . Let's get your health taken care of.

I know there are lots of folks with bigger burdens than mine, and I do try to remember that and pray for them and be grateful for all the blessings I have. Somedays it is just harder to do that than others.

Thanks everyone for being here and for the private messages I have received too. :grouphug:

Lucky Rescue
February 25th, 2005, 10:05 AM
I don't know about anyone else, but I find that taking an abandoned, starving, terrified and/or mistreated animal, watching it learn to trust and recover from illness and fear and then seeing it go - healthy and happy - to a new and loving home makes me forget my own problems.:)

Seeing how hard these creatures fight to survive and how precious their lives are to them (no matter how deprived or miserable) is awesome to me.

Awesome also is that it's often people who have had the most challenges, catastrophes or devastation in their own lives who have the most compassion and caring for others - both two legged and four legged.

theplainsjane
February 25th, 2005, 10:46 AM
Goldengirl> Heh, I was just going to ask...where are those pitbull puppies? Caliber needs a couple of them!

Luvmypit
February 25th, 2005, 11:13 AM
I just read these posts. Wow. You know I think it really helps being able to tell people your problems on such a site like this. That makes me happy. The feeling I get when I see people who only know eachother through here yet come together and in away hold eachothers hand. I know it sound corny but I beleive this to really help. We should have an air your life problems thread that way everyone can get what they need off there chests. The power of conversation often can help.
Im really sorry about the issues your facing Karin, its hard for me to understand how this could happen to someone in a western society. You will get through this.
Also very sorry to hear about your friends plight. When it rains it pours.
Twin and Lillith your babies are beautiful. My has Judith grown!. Don't you wish that you could really clean your kids that way. Throw them in the washer machine with the rest of the clothes.
Some days I really just feel like the world would just stop so I can lay in bed all day. My favourite saying is "this too shall pass". whenever I feel absolutly terrible I often tell myself that although I feel this way now I know I will smile again and be happy.

Karin
February 25th, 2005, 02:14 PM
Thank's alot folks..(again)..My final words on the subject. I regret posting about my ills. I was not looking for sympathy but I do appreciate your kind words. I have known about this, like I said before since last fall. I would rather not be reminded about...I have jumped through more hoops than a circus trick poodle.
My biggest peeve are the few that suggest I need to "do something" with Ciara because of the expense of her care. We all know what the "do something " is. My boss does not know yet even. Afterall, I was fired from the last job because of my first diagnosis. Yes, my country is lacking in it's health care system in many area's but great in others. Young teens can have free food, housing, medical care and get a hefty check every month to keep supplied in crack cocaine as long as they keep spitting out babies. *excuse me while I remove this chip that suddenly appeared on my shoulder*
Okay...let's move on Okay? Remember what this thread is about...look around when you feel down, someone else is always less fortunate. I see it each and every day.
Nuf said. Smooches to all from me & the super uber goober, Ciara.

twinmommy
February 25th, 2005, 03:07 PM
Gotcha. (((hug))))

Let's move on then......want some popcorn???http://www.discodelic.netfirms.com/other-atthemovies.gif

chico2
February 25th, 2005, 03:12 PM
well,ahttp://pages.prodigy.net/indianahawkeye/newpage05/10.gifwould be nice.....

twinmommy
February 25th, 2005, 03:37 PM
Don't you wish that you could really clean your kids that way. Throw them in the washer machine with the rest of the clothes.


What do you think they were doing there??? :D hee hee hee

I thought that's what the "delicate" cycle was for!!! :thumbs up LOL

twinmommy
February 25th, 2005, 03:39 PM
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where's the party tonight??

Karin
February 25th, 2005, 05:37 PM
http://pages.prodigy.net/indianahawkeye/newpage08/12.gif

where's the party tonight??

In the recipe forum, "cheesecake" thread. Yumm..

Luvmypit
February 28th, 2005, 01:41 PM
YOur right Twinmommy! Throw them in the delicate cycle at the same time you crack open that bottle of wine and throw the bag of popcorn in the microwave. Its all about time management!