Dog attack from Niagra falls:

I think this is the lab attack that was mentioned on another thread:

http://www.570news.com/news/local/article.jsp;jsessionid=JOGPOBMICOMN?content=200412 28_100821_3524

" Police say the child tried to take a bone away from the chocolate Labrador retriever. "

Would it kill these people to point out that that is a VERY bad thing to do?

The dog is in the care of the Niagara Falls S-P-C-A where it will be quarantined as a precaution.

Had this been a pit bull or rottweiler, it would NOT be quarantined as a precaution, it would have been put to sleep already!

Had this been a pit bull or rottweiler, it would NOT be quarantined as a precaution, it would have been put to sleep already!

Yep.
It also would have been on the front page of every paper in Ontario. With graphic pictures of the poor child's wounds, and I'm sure a quote from Bryant.

Had this been a pit bull or rottweiler, it would NOT be quarantined as a precaution, it would have been put to sleep already!

Very true.

I am actually suprised they said the dog's breed. From all that I have been trying to read on the subject, unless it's a Pit or Rott, they don't normally state the breed. The media doesn't want the public to know that all breeds are capable of attacking a child. Or that's how I see it anyway.

Where were the adults as this 2 year old child is taking away toys from the dog?????? Quarantine him as a precaution to what? The dog was simply defending its belongings and letting the child know the only way an animal knows how. :(

But, I am glad to hear the little boy survived.....Hopefully, they don't kill the dog for what it did.

Ugh. Our son is almost two (20 months), and the one thing we've tried (not necessarily saying it always works), but we've tried to stress with Robbie is the trusty ole "no, that's Bear's".

It does take a LOT of reviewing with Robbie, but he's getting the concept. Now he just grabs Bear's stuff, looks at me and says, "Nooooo". Hokey dokey, so we have a little work to do on this one.

One of the other things we did with Bear from the time we rescued him was to take his food/toys/water away from him, and praise him when he behaved.

It's difficult to pin the blame on anyone, but myself I wouldn't leave our child unattended around any dog that isn't our own. (including family members' pets).

Hope the child is okay, by the way.

Bears Mom....... I agree.

I can go up to Whinnie & Boo and take whatever I want. They are trained that when a human hand touches something they have in thier mouths or possession, it no longer belongs to them, whether toys or treats. My niece is 1 now, and she can go up to either of my girls and do whatever she wants to them, and they do nothing. She rides them, and pulls their ears, and their gowls. She takes their toys and throws them for the girls to fetch. Once NYAH (my niece) touches the toy, they release. Whinnie and Boo know nothing is theirs, Mommy and Daddy just share everything with them, and they've done very well with possessiveness.
Every chance I get, I'm in their faces. With kisses, rubs or playfull pokes to the nose. I found that this way they alway know there is a line you do not cross no matter what a human does to them. This obviously wouldn't apply if they felt they were in danger, or I was in danger, but thats a different situation.
Now, I have trained them to the best of my ability, and I am confident that they know what I'm trying to teach, but I still would NEVER leave any child unattended with them for any amount of time. Then it just becomes my responsibility, not theirs if they do something wrong, which I can only hope they never do.

I think we lucked out with Bear. He takes a lotta cr&p from Robbie, and just LOVES it.

Its more a matter of Bear understanding he IS part of your family. He is Robbie's brother, and thats why he tolorates it, or Mommy will be mad at him. Animals are amazing creatures, and if you let them know they are your everything, they will repay you just the same.

Its obvious you treat him no different then your 2-legged child, so he has no reason to be jealous of Robbie. I say more so then you "lucked-out" that you are a pretty great Mom and thats why Bear is so great. Which is why I don't understand most people when they blame the dog. In most cases it is a reflection of the way an animal has been treated, or how he feels about himself. Dogs have self-esteem issues too.

Robbie sounds pretty lucky to have an understanding brother like Bear to play with :crazy:

:( I guess this is the story I heard on the radio earlier in the week. Yup, had it been a pitbull would have been all over the news. Its very unfortunate when dogs bite but all dogs do have that potential. I guess I will email the story to Bryant with a short note.

You bring up a good point whinnie-boo, It is very important that you teach your dog(s) that people can take there stuff, and it is now your stuff untill you give it back. Dogs take no offence at being #2 in the pack, it's natural to them, but if the dog thinks it's #1 that means you or anyone else is #2 and you have a problem, that should be fixed ASAP.
I.m glad the boy is o.k, but he will no be distrustfull of dogs, that was a preventable bite, and he should not have had to go through that truma.

My 8 year old stepdaughter is very rough with capone although we have been trying to teach her to be more gentle but she has ADD and often acts on impulse. She has run at him full force, hands flailing in the air and screaming at the top of her lungs. Heck I'd be scared and capone just kinda relaxes lets her run at him, pull his cheeks, tries to ride him, smacks him on the nose. So he has grown up being poked and prodded which has made him a better dog. I often find her dancing with capone and when I try to dance with him he nibbles at my hands, her he lets her just do as she pleases. Right from the beginning we let him know that anytime he even so much as opened his mouth around her we would get mad and disapointed, Often if I say ouch or yelp he immediatly lays down in submission and then the please forgive me licks follow. Its hard to explain to a child what will happen to their dog if he ever bit but she seems to be getting it and has made an effort to be more gentle with him. I also heard that dogs help in ADD children so it truly is a benefit for us to have him. I never ever leave her alone with him although she trys to take him in the room with her. One day he came out with hair ties on both ears and a head band. Poor thing. so from then on although funny it was kinda scary that she had him in her room doing this stuff to him and anything could have happened. The rule from that day on was hes not allowed in her room atleast till she is older period.

It is very important that you teach your dog(s) that people can take there stuff, and it is now your stuff untill you give it back. Dogs take no offence at being #2 in the pack, it's natural to them, but if the dog thinks it's #1 that means you or anyone else is #2 and you have a problem, that should be fixed ASAP.

See, that's all I'm asking for. It took bluntman a couple of lines. I know that the majority of parents on this board are responsible people.

I'm willing to bet that there are people that are reading these articles in the paper that aren't, or simply don't know.

Why do you never see comments like that, in the media, at the end of a dog-bite story?

It'll be interesting to see how they report this in the major papers...oh, wait, it isn't being reported. I wonder why?

When Daisy was a pup, I used to stick my hand in her bowl and take food right out of her mouth from time to time. My wife wondered why, I told her, "So she'll be used to it and not bite, or she'll bite while I can still get my hand back and I'll learn to never do that again!". When her neice was one, the parents weren't watching her, and she went over to Daisy while she was eating and plunged her hand in Daisy's bowl (she never saw me do that, as I wouldn't do anything in front of kids I didn't want them to do). Before we could do anything, Daisy lifted her head, backed up, sat down and cocked her head ("Whatchya doing?"). Then the baby stuck a piece of kibble in front of Daisy's face. We would have yelled, but everyone lost thier breath in panic. Daisy reached out sooo slowly, gently put her teeth around it with her neck outstretched, and would not move until the baby let go of the food. It was the most amazing thing I ever saw! Of course, we suggested that "puppy can get her own food", but it was still pretty amazing. Daisy and I get pretty hyper with each other at times (and yes, I think it's an ADD thing, Luvmypit! For both of us! ;) ), and she'll grab her rope and smack me with it until I start pulling. She's pulled me (over 200lbs) and the easy chair before! But when one of the little kids came up and smacked her, she just caught it and stood there, wouldn't pull. It's like she knows to be gentle. Except the youngest one who we think poked her in the eye once. When that one is around, Daisy will give a little growl, sometimes snap and then run away if the baby won't leave her alone. (This is the little sister of the neice. And I've had numerous conversations that, perhaps the parents should keep her away from Daisy. I don't think she'd do anything, and I think this is just her trying to keep the baby away, but I'm not sure. Oh, and the baby is about 1 1/2 years)

All that being said, I have no doubt I could leave Daisy in a room of little kids and not have a problem. I also have no intention of giving her the chance to prove me wrong.

Its more a matter of Bear understanding he IS part of your family. He is Robbie's brother, and thats why he tolorates it, or Mommy will be mad at him. Animals are amazing creatures, and if you let them know they are your everything, they will repay you just the same.

Its obvious you treat him no different then your 2-legged child, so he has no reason to be jealous of Robbie. I say more so then you "lucked-out" that you are a pretty great Mom and thats why Bear is so great. Which is why I don't understand most people when they blame the dog. In most cases it is a reflection of the way an animal has been treated, or how he feels about himself. Dogs have self-esteem issues too.

Robbie sounds pretty lucky to have an understanding brother like Bear to play with :crazy:


I was spending the afternoon looking through the HS websites, and saw a LOT of dogs listed, "because the owners have a new baby and no longer had time for the dog". WHAT IS THAT ABOUT????

By the way, whinn, thanks for the compliments!

We vowed that when the baby came home from the hospital we'd not treat Bear any differently. We allowed Bear to sniff the baby, and his clothes. We've NEVER banished Bear from the family environment, and encouraged full interaction with the family. We also remembered to have "Bear time", as well as baby time.

I just get soooo ticked at people who FREAK when the family pet goes near the new baby, or they banish the dog to either the basement or backyard, then can't understand why the dog is either jealous or aggressive. That just ticks me off.

I just get soooo ticked at people who FREAK when the family pet goes near the new baby, or they banish the dog to either the basement or backyard, then can't understand why the dog is either jealous or aggressive. That just ticks me off.

I'm the same way. Most babies I know giggle like heck when Daisy goes to say "hi". Besides, it's easier than me given them a bath! (...then she said, "SLURP!")

That being said, my wife said it is naturally that the dog is suddenly left out (she's never had a dog before, and we are expecting our first child). Thinking about how she feels about Daisy, though, I think she'll be surprised. I don't see why people can't share thier affections. I know that my brother-in-law's dog seems to be more of a pain in the butt to them than anything else, but I think that's a comment on them. I also think my wife may be defending them with thier comments. I remember growing up with a dog, and he was my best friend. I think that if you socialize your dog (AND your child) properly, then niether gets the feeling of being left out, and they both become part of the bigger circle.

My very best childhood memories were all around my dog! I wouldn't be here today if not for my Blondie (Cocker Spaniel). She understood me and listened to my troubles and always took my side. She pulled me on my roller skates and pulled my covered wagon made from a wooden lug box. She put up with the golden rinse I put on her hair to make her ever more beautiful. She waited forever beneath a big pile of leaves in the middle of the lawn for my Pop to come home so that I could give her the command to jump out and surprize him. I pity kids who don't grow up with memories like this. I also learned to take care of her needs before mine. I was responsible for her and I knew she depended on me. She didn't complain when I added vanilla to her dogfood. Love, responsibility, and nurturing are not bad traits for a child to learn.

I also have taken food from my dogs mouths since they were puppies . They never become protective about food , bones or toys that way . I continue doing it thoughout their lives and we have as of yet to have any problems .
I took one of my dogs with us this past weekend to deliver gifts . I left the dog in the car while visiting my niece in Orillia . She asked me to bring him in , I hadn't because she has 2 kids under 4 years of age . My dog is good with kids so I went and got him . Besides lying on his back and crying to be petted he was no concern . The littlest girl that has been walking on her own for about 3 months wouldn't leave "Gordie" alone at first he liked the attention but I noticed after a while he was not recptive to her . He began to move away and get closer to me . No growling just body language told me it was time to go and deliver more presents . I took him out for a walk , put him in the car came back in and we said our fairwells . There was no incident at all and my niece was unaware of what had just happened , she simply thought My dog had to go for a walk . My dog let me know he was uncomfortable and I took notice. It is too bad for the little kid in Niagara that no one there took notice.

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One of the other things we did with Bear from the time we rescued him was to take his food/toys/water away from him, and praise him when he behaved.
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Training is a 2 way street. People usually decide that only one party needs training, but your approach is much better. :angel: Having small kids or toddlers in the same area as pets that are not used to kids is generally a bad idea, but i have put a dog that was terrified of kids behing 2 locked doors to no effect. ( a slide bolt, & a hook & eye closure HIGH Up on a door. The visitor's kid got a chair, climbed up & opened the locks! -In spite of, or probably Because :evil: she was told to leave the dog alone, & not go downstairs into my Mom's apartment because it was somebody else's property.) Dogs can be unpredictable, but kids can be much more so.

Anything you can do is helpful, & training both the kids & dogs is the best idea possible. But that's only an option if the kids are yours.