Harrassed Again

Well I have to tell you guys I am dog sitting my friends Neo for a week and I had Buddy and Harper out for a walk last night and guess what?
While I was out with them both on leashes because I understand they can be intimidating I had them on traffic leads so they were right beside me. These two guys driving by started to yell comments about my vicious dogs they drove off I just ignored them. They came back around the block and started throwing cans and a bottle at the dogs and me. They hit the Neo and he ran behind my legs to get away he was terrified which sent my guy cowering to the floor. Both of these dogs are rescues and have been through their share of abuse they did not growl, bark, lunge at the car or do anything the least bit intimidating. I picked up the bottle and hurled it back at the car and it smashed against the back window of their car. I though oh sh**, they slammed on the brakes and got out of their car now both dogs were standing at my side, good feeling being surrounded by over 400 pounds of dogs. They started to walk towards me and I said if they came any closer I would let the dogs off their leads and would not be responsible if my dogs attack them, which they would not but they did not know that. They got back in their car and took off. We proceeded to back alley it all the way home. I do not need to be in fear when I take my dog for a walk and am a little sick of it. This is the second time that I have been physically threatened and I will not put up with this any longer I am now carrying pepper spray so don't get to close.
Thank you MB I love the fact that you have made a woman walking with dogs feel more unsafe then being out in the streets by myself I would probably be safer in a dark alley then on well lit streets.

That is awful!!! :mad: :eek: Did you report it to the police?? They should at least make note of the incident. They are for the ban as well but why not make them realize how much hassle they will have dealing with all the good dogs and owners as much as bad dog owners?

That is terrible. I am glad you broke thier window. It sounds like a very scary incident. So far nothing threatening has happened to me while out with Duke but its always on my mind. Sorry that happened to you Mastiff.

Join the club Mastifflover. As sad as it is, it is becoming reality. It couldn't have been more then a few months ago, just when the BSL was beginning to hit the fan. I was out with the girls, walking downtown Brampton, when these punks on rollerblades skated by and startled Boo. She jumped in front of me and one of the kids was almost knocked over. I put out a hand to catch him, if he should need it, which he didn't. I quickly apologized for Boo's being startled, and tried to explain that she is still a little unsure of the world, and is a little jumpy (we're working on this everyday). He got very angry and very rude, and as he started to Rollerblade away, he turned to face my girls and threw a ciggarette right at them. Lucky for them it did not hit my babies. Cause I would have gone after this little kid myself, never mind using my dogs to threaten him. I surely would've lost them. All I can say is stay strong, things will get worse before they get any better. Just try to keep the kids from knowing you're upset, they might pick up on it. Its time like these that I wish my kids did bite, and they would bite on command. I would teach these uneducated ***ks a lesson. :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:

That is awful! You should report this to the police, these guys could have hurt you, Im glad that you smashed the window too. The pepper spray is a good idea although you shoudnt need to carry it just to walk your dogs, its really a shame how people react :mad:

And I always figured, "Who's gonna bother a woman walking 3 large dogs??". Apparently, a LOT of people are gonna bother anybody walking any dogs! This is crap. I'm going to start carrying a pencil and paper and try to get license plate #'s or any details, like just how hollow the guys' head was! or such stuff. How about a camera! Just a cheapy....I bet if you pull that out, the troublemakers will high-tail it and you will have proof! Ha HA! Be prepared, is my new motto on dog walks.

What neighbourhood did this happen in? I've had no troubles in mine, however I don't usually walk Rosie in residential areas, there are more deserted areas close, however I'm no adverse to going somewhere where people are being harassed, and seeing what happens. Rosie is not interested in any sort of confrontation, and would be happy to stay out of things, however I'm not so adverse. Being proactive is a good idea. Filing police reports, getting license numbers and pictures will show the general public that we're not going to be walked over just becuase the government has seen fit to discriminate against us.

I did not get the license plate and unfortunatlely did not even think of it till it was too late. But I will from know on I did not have my phone with which I usually do but the battery was dead and it was on the charger. I live in High Park usually very dog friendly area. I never have problems with the people who live in the area where I walk him they have all met Buddy and know he is a big wussy boy. Thanks for all your support I did post on goodpooch which everybody should do anytime you encounter abuse or discrimination

Very well put Jono. Its just a shame that its come to this. I am a Pitbull owner and I'm in fear, why does this not seem right. I also wonder if calling the police will make a difference since I'm the one who owns "WEAPONS" :evil:

As i said before its very important to call the police. Without getting a police report theres not much proof other then your word and story. Getting the license is all you need. They could have been arrested on uttering threats and assault. If your dog was injured, animal cruelty. You got to stick it to them and let people know that its not the law to harass and assault people that they will be prosecuted. If you were to report this then those guys would know when the police show up that its illegal and not accepted. I encourage everyone to report these to the police. If they threaten you thats a crime. Meaning if they say they have any intenton hurting killing or anything a long those lines. Obviously simple minded comments don't warrant the police being called but something like this incident is definately a time to call police.

That sucks, Mastiff, and I'm sorry you had to go through that. Maybe I should go for a walk with you one of these times. Then you won't need to get a license plate, you could just identify my foot up thier butts.

Atleast they got a broken window for their troubles. I'd like to ask them whos the agressive one? Next time maybe they will think twice. Im sorry also for what you had to go through. Next time aim for one of their heads :cool:

that is awful peper spray is a good idea i used to carry a alarm in england as i had to walk to the train station when ativated made a deathing noise but i would think it would hurt a dogs ears. DEf take a cell phone out with you the plain ignorance of people is appaling!!

Hope you are ok and the dogs are ok :sorry:

I think I would be very careful in the future about retaliation of any sort. Doesn't look good from a legal standpoint. What if your bottle had injured someone? I don't at all blame you for tossing it, as I know I would likely have done the same thing to the buggers, but I think it might be in our best interests as pet owners, if we keep our cool and use our pencils and cameras and try not to fight back physically. By all means, protect yourself and your dogs! How would that look in the news, especially the way the press twists everything: "Owner of Large Dogs Attacks Car!" A living nightmare.

Sorry to hear this.
You really should try to report it though. Just in case these jerks try to claim that they were driving along and you decided to hurl the bottle unprovoked.
I wouldn't put it past "people" like that.

I think I would be very careful in the future about retaliation of any sort. Doesn't look good from a legal standpoint. What if your bottle had injured someone? I don't at all blame you for tossing it, as I know I would likely have done the same thing to the buggers, but I think it might be in our best interests as pet owners, if we keep our cool and use our pencils and cameras and try not to fight back physically. By all means, protect yourself and your dogs! How would that look in the news, especially the way the press twists everything: "Owner of Large Dogs Attacks Car!" A living nightmare.


I do not disagree at all with your statement, but, I also understand that us responsible owners can only tolerate so much from the uneducated public. But, for a change it would be nice to see such a story printed. And I can not deny I would like to be the owner who attacks someone for mistreating my Pitbulls for a change.
I know how amazing and loving all these dogs are, and they know themselves, because their parents tell them everyday. I can not explain the disappointment in my girls eyes when they sense that they are not liked. :sad: I see their little hearts break when they know why mommy is upset. :( I want to protect them from everything that is going on in the media and I would do it at all costs. I'm not a violent person, but I pitty the next person who lashes out at my Kids. :evil:

As do I. I would never let anyone hurt my dogs, just let 'em try. BUT I would also hate to see any of us do jail time because of a momentary lapse in judgement and then who will take care of our pets? I think that the best course of action is to follow the law, and use our brains, not our brawn, like the idiots that appear to be out to cause trouble for dog owners.

How horrible for an incident like this to occur!! While I live in NB and for the moment the govt is rethinking a law banning certain dog breeds, I always make a point tro smile at people walking pitbulls or if I am walking and close, ask if I can pet the dog - knowing the psycological truama this must be for them and their people!

Why are some people such idiots!!

OMG Mastifflover,I am just stunned!! What's the matter with people,dogs ar dogs,since when is walking dogs becoming dangerous,it's just crazy :evil:
Thank's Mr Idiot Bryant!
I would arm myself with anything I have,nobody would ever get to my dogs(if I had any!)Cellphone a must,pepper-spray,in case they intend to harm the dogs and a camera..but I guess in the heat of the moment instinct will kick in,common sense does not apply if your dogs are in danger :sad:

You are so right as soon as the bottle hit the window I thought that was stupid. Besides not having the plate number I thought better not put myself in a situation that could me turned around on me. I agree we cannot react like this because the press will turn it around and make us the bad guys.

This ***** is getting out of hand, there is no excuse for people harrasing a dog owner, let aloan a woman, what has MB done to our once freindly Ontario? You should definatly report this incident to Goodpooch Mastifflover, and I'm sure they will see that the standing commity hears of all the hate MB has created in Ontario. Here ia a link,
http://www.goodpooch.com/attackreports.htm

I know that's the proper way, and I hope I can keep my cool if I'm faced with a situation like that again, But, probably not. When are people going to start opening their eyes to what Bryant is doing? Hopefully before good dogs and thier parnets start suffering. I never thought that walking around with a "viscious" breed that I would have to look over my shoulder.

I did report it to Goodpooch I also sent a letter to Michael Bryant and Dalton. I included a link that opps went to that part about discrimination and then to the incidents of harassment that dog owners are putting up with.
This is a copy fo the email I sent them we will see if they respond. Fat chance I will get the famous form letter again

This is a link to a very good piece on discrimination and hate. When you are there please check the reports from dog owners on the
abuse that we are dealing with constantly. This harassment that we are dealing with has been created by you I don't own any of the breeds you want to ban I disagree with your ban. The fact that I as a woman now have to carry a cell phone and Mace (yes it is illegal but so is being threatened) when I take my dog for a walk does not say much for this once relatively peaceful city. I was harassed and threatened last night and I am getting really sick of it. I am being told my dog should be muzzled and should be killed because these people are a ignorant of what pits and staffs look like how do you expect them to know what they look like if you don't either? I will be awaiting a reply to this email and DO NOT send me your stupid form letter about how much safer I will feel when pit bulls are banned because this only shows that you or your staff do not read your emails, at least get the idea what someone is writing about before you send them a letter stating everything they oppose.

http://www.goodpooch.com/newsupdate.htm

Robin

When they send you thier form letter, send a copy with your e-mail to all of the opposition members.

Mastifflover report the entire incident to an opposition member like Julia Monroe or Tim Hudac . Both of them have been pretty vocal in their opposition to the ban . I also think you should contact one of the Papers the Sun seems somewhat sympathetic to our cause and even if they aren't for the pitbulls you don't even own one .This kind of story will help our cause. No decent citizen of Ontario will want incidents like this to happen

WTF... is wrong with people?

Mastiff what a horrible thing to have to go through. It's to bad you didn't get the plate number. In the criminal code this would be considered assault with a deadly weapon. It's a felony. Would've made them think twice about doing this to someone else...& they'd have a criminal record. :mad:

Mastiff,I'm sooo sorry you had to go through that. :grouphug:

There are just to many sick and stupid people in this world.

If this happens again,please make sure you have your phone with you.And also paper and a pen.Write the plate down.Go home and call the station.And tell them exactly what happened.Make a formal complaint.Better yet,go to the station.

Maybe a digital camera would be a good idea. Take a picture. Hopefully you'll catch the license plate and a full description of the car, as well as the morons driving it.

maybe a camera phone would be a good idea? Then there's no waiting or anything. just snap a pic with the phone. that might be faster than fiddling with a full blown digital camera... but the quality might not be good enough for definite ID of the vehicle. plus there's no zoom, so if they're far away already and you take a picture you won't be able to see much detail.

That is horrible! I'm sorry this had to happen to you.

I have no suggestions to help you, but if it's any consolation, I'm new to the whole BSL ****, and after having my baby puppy for only three weeks, I'm feeling the pressure already, and I enjoy reading your posts (well, I take no enjoyment out of this thread) to help us deal with our own issues.

Mastiff, so sorry you were harassed yet again.

I agree with Seeker in that you should contact some of the opposition members and the papers. But perhaps you should also contact Alex Pierson(?) at CityTV as well. She seems to be one of the very few who give a crap about what this mass hysteria the Fiberals are causing is REALLY creating. Maybe contacting a few of the other reporters from other stations as well. They might not do anything, but eventually, if enough of these incidents are reported, they aren't going to be able to ignore them forever.

Make the complaint and get it on file, and then talk to everyone you meet - even when you aren't with the dogs.

I was in Costco a few weeks ago and shared a table with a stranger while I grabbed some lunch. Somehow the topic of 'bannings' came up and I pointed out some things that she really didn't realise about BSL. She thanked me at the end of the conversation and said that it certainly got her thinking. She also said that if Clay Ruby was going to defend the dogs and dog owners, the Fiberals wouldn't know what hit them. (She knew CR's work from personal experience).

My boss and her family were pro-bsl, until they contacted their vet (at my urging, because I wanted them to hear from someone whom they respected and had worked with all breeds of dogs), and were shocked to learn that their vet was against it and why. It opened up their eyes to this crappy piece of homework that Brytler has done.

I believe that we need to talk to anyone who is willing to listen and if you are attacked, I think that you need to talk about that too, because these attacks were not happening until Brytler and McGintler decided to protect the public from vicious dogs.

They haven't banned freedom of speech....yet.

This poster is absolutely right. If you're not totally in the right - dogs on leash if not in a leash-free area, dogs not under control - your complaint won't be taken seriously. Self-defense is one thing, retaliation is another.
That said, you should definitely file a report with the police if you're threatened or assaulted. Who knows what else these yahoos are doing? Harassing seniors with their dogs, seniors who are too frail to fight back?
Also, go to www.goodpooch.com and report the harassment.

[QUOTE=lezzerpezzer]I think I would be very careful in the future about retaliation of any sort. Doesn't look good from a legal standpoint.