Julia Monroe-private members bill ?

I heard on the radio today that Julia Monroe introduced a private members bill . It was very skimpy on details but one of the highlights was to not ban any breed and to address dogs and owners of dogs that attack .Also mentioned was that Bryant's bill 132 will be too difficult to enforce . I know no more than this , did anyone hear of anything ?
It was on q107 at about 4:30 .

One thing I can tell you is she is a breeder in Georgina somewhere, so she has a great interest in the BSL.

if I lived across the street She would be my MPP and I had also heard she is a breeder .I am pretty sure She has an office in Newmarket , if I can't find info on the web my wife is going to call there tomorrow.

I like the Kelly Lamrock & Other Dog People's New Brunswick better. :angel: Yes Julia Munroe is a breeder, so her legislation tends to let breeders off the hook for a number of sins. She had proposed this in another type of format/venue several years ago, & it didn't go anywhere. Not because it wasn't great but prob. because it was an animal issue.

She was on Focus Ontario a few weeks ago, and she mentioned that she wanted to do this. From what I remember, all she said was that she wanted no-ban, and to go after owners( like seeker mentioned).
I think there are a couple threads on her in this forum.

This is probably better legislation than the Liberals garbage. Unfortunatly, it'll probably be voted down since the Liberals hold a majority, and since it is a contradiction to what they are pushing for. However, it will show to people there is an alternative.

This is obviously only a symbolic gesture. This bill has no chance of passing. But hopefully it means that the Conservatives will repeal Bryant's law as soon as they come into power in three years.

Here's a link to Canada.com's coverage:
http://www.canada.com/national/story.html?id=39ee79b7-1b10-4686-b086-937c7ae4c057

"He also recalled an incident Friday in Hamilton, where a 10-year-old boy was chased by one of a pair of escaped pit bulls before he was rescued by a cab driver and a police officer. "

Didn't I hear they still haven't found the supposed 10 year old? I noticed he didn't mention the boy in Cambridge who was attacked by a pit-bull. Oh, wait...

They are asking for us to sound off on the canada.com site . I did already , pointing out Byrant's inadquecies

Here is Julia Munroe's press release:
http://www.juliamunrompp.com/prdetails.asp?id=128&pr=1

Oh yeah, and some of the comments are up now at Canada.com.

All the coments on Canada.com seem to be against Bryant, and all for the Consevitive bill, I'm really starting to think Bryant is the most hated man in Ontario right now, and that's just fine by me and my dogs.

I'm not generally fond of conservatives but I think her idea is pretty ingenious.

You will all have your chance to raise this issue face to face with the politicians in early January. Eves will announce his resignation any day now. John Tory will be running in the by-election in Dufferin-Peel-Wellington-Grey, Unfortunately there is a very strong chance the Libs will not field a candidate so you probably won't get a chance to rake them over the coals in a candidates debate. If you really want to get the pending legislation repealed in 2007 after McGuinty gets tossed, get involved in your provincial conservative riding association. February 25th is the policy convention. Work to get the issue debated at the convention.

Thanks db7 that is good info . I will contact a PC member tomorrow .

Introduction of new Bill

http://www.ontla.on.ca/hansard/house_debates/38_parl/Session1/L101.htm#P133_21131

There was an article in yesterdays Toronto Sun.She was in it.She stated in this Bill that it will crack down on dangerous dogs in general rather than outlawing pit bull breeds.A vet was also asked if Pits are any worse than the next breed?His answer was no..It was also stated that vicious dogs are a problem in our province but breed bans are not the way to solve problems.Her bill calls for fines of up to $60.000 and jail terms of up to 2 years against owners of a dog that kills or severely injures a person.

Michael Bryant also includes penalties.
Up to $10.000 an individual,$60.000 for companies such as "puppy mills" and up to 6 months in jail

Does this jerk even know what a puppy mill is?

Well I have a nominee to replace MB this Julia Monroe sounds like an intelligent person who knows what she is talking about unlike someone else we all know and despise. I realize she is a breeder but I dont think that makes her evil, she sounds like she is on the side of the animals and that is what matters to me. I hope she is a responsible breeder but I don't think she would put herself out there if she was worried about being scrutenized by animal lovers and you all know how tough we can be on people we feel are
unethical

I sent the following to Julia today. I figure she knows her way around so I thought I would ask her the things we are all wondering.



Hi Julia,

I am not in your riding but I was hoping you could help me with some information. I was pleased to see the introduction of your bill in the legislature on Monday.

I was hoping you could explain to me what it meant that Michael Bryant chose to send his proposed legislation to a standing committee instead of third reading. Also, I am unsure what this means. Are party's other than the liberals represented on this committee? What is the difference between a standing and a select committee? Alot of us who are watching what is going on with the proposed BSL have little or no experience with how a bill becomes law and the information on the Ontario Leg. website is fairly general.

Any assistance you can offer would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks again for your proposed legislation. It appears far more reasonable than what Michael Bryant is proposing. I believe that dangerous dogs are a product of dangerous owners either through ignorance or criminal intentions and should be dealt with accordingly.

Sincerely,

M******** C******

I got an email back from Julia telling me to call her office for an explaination of the process. Here is what I got:

Most Bills go to a Standing Committee prior to a third reading. So, that Bryant referred it to a Standing Committee doesn't mean he is backing down in any way.
Anything can happen.
The Standing Committe will meet during the closure of the Leg and the Chair will probably be ready to report when the Leg resumes.
Most Bills are at the very least amended during this process.
All three partys get to pick who will be invited to consultation
If the liberals want this passed it will be passed. They could withdraw the Bill if they wanted to. (fat chance)
The only thing that might change thier postion is negative media attention, public and political pressure.

The majority are anti-ban.
If anybody feels like venting......
There is a person there that is claiming that her friend, the genetics professor, says "that violence is in pitbull DNA and can't be trained or bred out".

I'll pit my sister, the genetics professor at WVSU, against her genetics professor any day. There is no truth behind such an idiotic assertion that pit bulls are inherently violent from their DNA as we well know.

The lunacy of the "genetic" argument should be apparent to anyone.

If Pit bulls were "bred" to be violent, in otherwords violence was introduced to their DNA through selective breeding, why can't they be "bred" to be non-violent? In fact, this is exactly how the American Staffordshire Terrier came about. Pit bull dogs that were bred for conformation and temperment.

Some people are idiots. I wonder if they're "bred" that way.

Yeah, definitely BYB'g!

My question is this--if the violence is inherent in the breed, why are there not a lot MORE attacks, and why does Daisy match everything the true experts say?

"There is a person there that is claiming that her friend, the genetics professor, says "that violence is in pitbull DNA and can't be trained or bred out"

Let's remember that Hitler had experts in genetics too who were also willing to say anything. The crackpots with theories of all types will come out of the woodwork, as will the profiteers.

I don't believe that these dogs exhibit these traits but let's go there. This same professor probably credits genetics, training or breeding with putting violence into pit bulls in the first place. If that is their belief then it would only follow that it can also be breed out or trained out. I'm not a genetics professor but I'd say that debunks that theory - maybe the professor should stick with lab mice. :ca:

Professor: Those who can do....those who can't...... :confused:

If it were genictics that was causing the dog attack problem it would probably be the same for any mammal . Decendants of Napleon , Hitler , Gengus Kahn ,the Romans , Vikings etc would be all causing wars of their own . The genetics theory for pitbulls is total "hogwash" just as it is for anyother species .If it were true then I feel for any decendants of Micheal Bryant they are doomed to be "A"-holes.

Actually I've already drawn a little moustache on a picture of Bryant and I have to tell you ---- it's uncanny. :D